01 4Runner.....dead!!

rpearlberg

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Making a left turn yesterday, all of a sudden a crunching noise and everything shuts off....had it towed to dealership, tow truck said it sounds like the engine seized up....
Any ideas, thoughts?

118K miles, have it serviced every 3-5K miles....

Problem is that I'm in Lenox, MA for the weekend and have to head home to CT today. I'm leaving my car here and doubt that the service dept is even open today....
 
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how long have you had this car? have u done anything maintenance wise within the past week or so? any prior problems?
 
Sorry to hear that! I'm new to 4Runner and new hear. This sounds scary to me. Could it be a head gasket? or timing chain?

What does 'threw a rod' mean?
 
If you've had it serviced every 3-5K and there were no major oil leaks I find it hard to believe the engine seized. Did you have any fluid leaks prior? When this happened were there any fluids coming out of the engine compartment? If it threw a rod there should have been oil leaking out. It's a little early but maybe the timing belt failed.

Throwing a rod is when a connecting rod that connects a piston to the crank breaks and busts through the block and makes a hole. They don't always break through, so it may not be obvious at first.
 
I've had this 4Runner since it was brand new. Had the oil changed about a month ago, have had no leaks or anything. Didn't notice any oil or fluids leaking after this happened.....Just got back home to CT, so the dealership in MA will call me tomorrow I guess....
 
Man that sucks. Sorry to hear about your mishap. But there are several factors that could lead to your engine locking up.

Bearing overlap: This occurs when one of the 2piece rod-to-crank shaft bearings gets worn so thin that one piece is force or wedged under the other piece. The unsmooth surface now creates heat, enough to actually allow the pieces to dig into each other and fuse together resulting in engine lock. Not to much damage caused by this. Get the crank resurfaced, new rods and bearings+ main crank bearings.

Piston lock: This occurs when there is enough heat generated by the friction between the piston rings and the cylinder wall that the piston becomes seized within the cylinder. This is usually due to low oil level, old oil which has lost all lubricating ability, an overheat condition due to coolant system.
You may be lucky enough that it cools down and is free again, but will still require a rebuild due to the stress levels that have been exerted at the point of lock-up.

Blown head gasket: This is of course the gasket that creates the seal between head and block. Both oil and water flow between the head and block. When the head gasket breaks down coolant can be forced into the oiling system leaving you with a non-lubricating milky combination of coolant and oil. This will skyrocket engine temps with there being a large decrease in coolant level and improper lubrication from the oiling system. Yet a blown head gasket can also be almost harmless and just leak externally. There are many different ways the gasket can fail, all with different outcomes and repairs.

Accessory lock: this is a good one and commonly overlooked. Simply as stated, one of the accessories belt driven by the crankshaft has locked up stopping the engine. It takes a strong belt to stop an engine but I've seen it several times, especially when at idle or in a low load level. Quick fix, cut belts off and attempt restart. If restart is not successful, attempt to turn crankshaft bolt clockwise with large breaker bar.

Timing belt jump: This is BAD! The 3.4 is dual overhead cam, meaning there are 4 camshafts controlling valve operation. They are driven by the crankshaft via the timing belt. This guy jumps a tooth or breaks and your whole day is ruined. I'm not sure if the 3.4 is an interference engine or not, but in worst case if it IS, those valves left in the down position during moment of tooth jump or belt failure are immediately crushed or bent by the piston. Pistons probably suffered damage as well.


The crunching noise, that's not as bad as long as there was no bang or loud pop (rod punching through block) Did you have a big puddle of oil under the car when it stopped? As long as you were not smashing on the throttle there's no reason to believe that anything is broken. It takes a lot of force to break a rod, you'd just about have to be at wide open throttle or towing.

It's hard to diagnose without having it in front of me, but at least now you have basic knowledge so hopefully you won't be swindled by the repair shop. They will more than likely say that it requires a complete rebuild or a new motor. This may not be a bad idea with 118K mile on it. The fastest and most cost effective way to fix your problem due to total engine failure would be to replace it with a low mileage (<40K) Japanese imported engine. Search the internet, there are lots of companies that sell these. The Japanese have their engines pulled and replaced with NEW ones at 40k by law. That's just broken in if you ask me, but oh well, send em over here.

Good luck, hope this helped. :happens:
 
Depending on what the dealership tells me tomorrow, would it be worth paying 200-300 to have it shipped back to me and have my mechanic do the work? I guess I would call him to explain what Toyota tells me and see what the prices are....
Anyone used a good auto transit company?
 
Anyone used a good auto transit company?

Yes but look local. Most of them run interstate rather than intrastate...and most places you call are going to be brokers FYI - look local for a driver for cheaper. If you do bring it back, your dealership could probably help you out.
 
I've had this 4Runner since it was brand new. Had the oil changed about a month ago, have had no leaks or anything. Didn't notice any oil or fluids leaking after this happened.....Just got back home to CT, so the dealership in MA will call me tomorrow I guess....

I have no idea...I had the belts changes about a year ago, along with the O2 sensor....
Boy, it sounds like you take great care of your car. My 2001 has 131,000 miles and I still take it on long trips. That is a bit scary thing to have have happen. Let us know what the heck happened to it and I hope it won't be too costly and can be saved.
 
well, Toyota just called. Separated Rod and a few other things.....needs a new engine.

They quoted me:

Remanufactured: $7100

Used: $4200
 
well, Toyota just called. Separated Rod and a few other things.....needs a new engine.

They quoted me:

Remanufactured: $7100

Used: $4200

Holy Cra_ Batman!

I'll sell you my used 3.4 for $700. For $4200, I'll deliver it personally from Florida to anywhere in the US!

Seriously, I do have a 3.4 for sale ( in the classifieds section ) I am parting out a '96 that was rolled. Nothing wrong with the engine. Fresh water pump & timing belt.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/class...-please/68382-96-limited-4x4-parting-out.html

Seems to be a rare occurance having one of these 3.4's break like that.
Sorry about your luck.
Even if you don't want mine, SHOP around. $4,200 is WAY too much!
 
Holy Cra_ Batman!

I'll sell you my used 3.4 for $700. For $4200, I'll deliver it personally from Florida to anywhere in the US!

Seriously, I do have a 3.4 for sale ( in the classifieds section ) I am parting out a '96 that was rolled. Nothing wrong with the engine. Fresh water pump & timing belt.
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/class...-please/68382-96-limited-4x4-parting-out.html

Seems to be a rare occurance having one of these 3.4's break like that.
Sorry about your luck.
Even if you don't want mine, SHOP around. $4,200 is WAY too much!

How many miles on the engine? How much for freight?
 
well, Toyota just called. Separated Rod and a few other things.....needs a new engine.

They quoted me:

Remanufactured: $7100

Used: $4200

Wow, that is terrible. Your right about trying to get your car back to your mechanic, the dealer is not the best place for this kind of work. Not sure what caused the problem, I doubt you could of done anything to prevent this kind of failure.

Good luck with figuring out what to do.

Connecting rod - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
well, Toyota just called. Separated Rod and a few other things.....needs a new engine.

They quoted me:

Remanufactured: $7100

Used: $4200



Damn. Two broken rods in one week here on the forum. Both while turning at slow speed and low engine rpm. Ridiculous.


Get a japanese (JDM) 5FZ-FE off ebay for $1500 and pay a shop $1000 to install it. Shop here in town where I live pulled an engine, took it apart down to the block, put it back together and re-installed it for $1000. And it wasn't a "super easy to take out" engine.

Shoot, I've never done a 3.4 before, but I'm confident I could pull the bad one and put in the good one in about 12-14 hours. You should definitely be able to get the job done for a grand.
 

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