The time has come for the timing belt and water pump but what else should i have done? Pulleys tensioners? Is there an all inclusive kit? Should i only purchase oem or is there another brand of equal quality? Any and all suggestions needed.....i 'll get all the parts then have a mechanic install the parts....thank you
180k timing belt and water pump but what else?
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get the ebay kit, this one comes with everything you need, just find the one for your engine if this isnt the right kit
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-4RU...ash=item5b1dae48e8:g:XMUAAOxyOMdS6Xa3&vxp=mtr
i let the dealer do my repairs after i bought the kit. its not hard but its a lot of work and after i saw how much work it was and realized i couldnt do that much twisting and bending over with my back issues. i will see if i can find the video of how to do it and post it.
they were ok with it since it was all oem brand parts and half were actually stamped toyota parts, so they didnt mind.
i just decided it was best to pay them a little more to get the peace of mind of a warranty
as i understand it, with the 4.7 v8 the cam seals require loosening the heads to replace them so i sent those back to the guy i bought the kit from for a refund and he sent me the $14 or something like that that they cost. i cant say if they lied to me but thats what the dealer mechanic said was involved in replacing them.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TOYOTA-4RU...ash=item5b1dae48e8:g:XMUAAOxyOMdS6Xa3&vxp=mtr
i let the dealer do my repairs after i bought the kit. its not hard but its a lot of work and after i saw how much work it was and realized i couldnt do that much twisting and bending over with my back issues. i will see if i can find the video of how to do it and post it.
they were ok with it since it was all oem brand parts and half were actually stamped toyota parts, so they didnt mind.
i just decided it was best to pay them a little more to get the peace of mind of a warranty
as i understand it, with the 4.7 v8 the cam seals require loosening the heads to replace them so i sent those back to the guy i bought the kit from for a refund and he sent me the $14 or something like that that they cost. i cant say if they lied to me but thats what the dealer mechanic said was involved in replacing them.
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here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTGHurWA1c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCTGHurWA1c
Joex481
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I've heard recommendations that the cam seals should be changed on the second timing belt change, though. You wouldn't want to spend the time or money to strip everything down again if they fail before the next belt change.
well if they fail you dont need to take it all down "again", just enough to pull the cam gears and cams out, then take the heads off, but yes it is a lot more involved then just taking the whole front of the engine off to do the timing belt.
i heard some guys say you "can" get the seal out after removing the cam and press it back in without pulling the heads off, but i also see others say its jack leg shade tree mechanic stuff to do that and it could ruin the seal at worst and not seal properly and leak on you after doing it that way.
Joex481
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Probably not, for the vehicle at least. The recommendation is every 90,000 miles. Some stretch it, but it's highly risky to do so. I bought mine at 112 without a change and the mechanic told me the belt would've failed within a year.
Also note only the V8 has the belt. V6 has a chain.
Joex481
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To clarify, the timing belt change is more work than just changing cam seals correct? Or vice versa? Or is it that only some tear down is common between the two jobs and both are pretty labor intensive? I'm not very familiar with this (haven't done much research), just repeating stuff I've heard. I heard or read that it's easier to do both at once to avoid some double labor. One shop refused to quote me a belt change without changing the seals as well. *disclaimer* :wacko:
I have done hundreds and hundreds of cam seals, headgasket and more. Never have I ever pulled a head to do a cam seal...anyone told that is getting scammed. Worse case you have to pull the first cam cap (holding the seal) or maybe the cam on a very select few engines. 90% of the time you simply pull the gear (vvti engine sucks to do this) yank the seal out and tap the new one in. As long as you don't knick the cam or cam cap where the seal seats it won't leak.
so you did this on the v8 4.7 engine?
i know its no big deal to do as you say on any of the v6 3.4 engines, but i was told the v8 is way different and that the head compresses the seal and thats why you cant just pry it out and tap a new one in.
i dont know for certain, im just going by what i have read and was told
:noidea:depends on how you define work
timing belt is very fiddly and time consuming, pulling the heads is just more detailed and requires greater care, with both jobs i wouldnt call either one of them extremely difficult to do, just depends on you comfort level. doing the heads requires a little more advanced mechanic ability to know how to recognize whats ok and what isnt
