1998 Remote Start on Manual Transmission?
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Myrunr2010
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interested in this as well...
gshadow325
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come on down! i just did a 5th gen from the bronx last tuesday and a 4th gen from NE ohio last friday.
I have it on my convertible manual trans volvo c70.
just to gve you a idea on how safe this is.
Digital Adjustable Sensor (DAS) Demonstration - YouTube
I buddy of mine had a remote start on his 98 Hilux SURF in Japan, I wouldn't recommend it. He never parked in gear but somehow, maybe his wife grabbed something out of it and bumped the stick, when he went to remote start it and it took off in gear and ran into his house. Truck was totaled and the house required some expensive repairs. Maybe it was installed wrong (The PO had it installed.)
On an automatic where it get's locked out of gear when the key is out or will not start in gear maybe, but I wouldn't do it on my manual personally.
On an automatic where it get's locked out of gear when the key is out or will not start in gear maybe, but I wouldn't do it on my manual personally.
Myrunr2010
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personal opinion, I feel like that would have to be an extremely unlikely scenario to accidentally bump the stick and have it stick in gear, and then start it, and have it move far enough with the e-brake engaged to do serious damage to your vehicle and house.
I have a buddy that has been an autobody guy for years. Several times a year, (more frequently in Winter) he has vehicles come in with damage due to a remote starter on a manual trans vehicle.
All of the owners swore they would always remember to park in neutral, until that one day they forgot..
Bottom line is it's not a good idea. Remote starters are a poor way to warm up any vehicle anyway. The best way is start the vehicle, if it's bitter cold let the oil circulate for a couple seconds, and then start driving gently.
Sitting at a high idle while the engine slooowly warms up, uses more fuel, it takes longer to warm up, thus the excess fuel is more likely to get past the rings and dilute the oil, plus the rest of the drivetrain doesn't warm up while sitting still.
All of the owners swore they would always remember to park in neutral, until that one day they forgot..
Bottom line is it's not a good idea. Remote starters are a poor way to warm up any vehicle anyway. The best way is start the vehicle, if it's bitter cold let the oil circulate for a couple seconds, and then start driving gently.
Sitting at a high idle while the engine slooowly warms up, uses more fuel, it takes longer to warm up, thus the excess fuel is more likely to get past the rings and dilute the oil, plus the rest of the drivetrain doesn't warm up while sitting still.
TheDurk
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No neutral switch on a 5-speed. You would have to by-pass the clutch start switch, which makes #1 very serious.
I am still waiting on more information from the the installer but he thinks its possible to either detect the movement of the vehicle or detect that the vehicle is in gear. If this is true leaving it in first on accident might not be such a big deal. Unless the system fails obviously....
Myrunr2010
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how so? i was always figured the wiring would somehow parallel what the clutch start cancel switch does...
gshadow325
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Obviously NO ONE WATCHED THE VIDEO!!!!
I embedded it into the post so ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CLICK PLAY!
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Myrunr2010
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Looks neat....sounds expensive!
Do you always assume!!!!
Did you see it roll forward?
That small bit of forward roll, was enough in many of the cases my autobody buddy worked on, to cause the vehicle to hit something, and cause damage.
In the other cases where there was no movement sensor present, it just kept trying to crank the engine..
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Myrunr2010
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Let me see how close i can park my truck to this here light post and still use the remote start...well guess that was too close
gshadow325
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Many people do not understand how a remote starter on a manual transmission works. Thus all the opinionated responses.
I'll explain to you how safe a compustar remote starter system in your manual car is.
First:
-vehicle needs to have ebrake pulled up, then foot off brake. then the doors will unlock
Second:
-vehicle will remain running when the key is removed from the ignition switch
Third:
-once the last door is closed, the vehicle will lock the doors
Now and only now will you be able to start the truck.
Why now Steve? Well "reservation" was met, 1: vehicle brake is on, so it cant roll away. 2: vehicle was in neutral because when you removed the key it was still running via remote starter. if it was in gear vehicle would have shut off when you exited the vehicle. 3: system locked the car and its secure.
But Steve, i forgot my wallet and went back into the car to get it. i might have accidentally put it into gear. Well it wont start because "reservation" mode was not set. Conditions 1,2 and 3 from above were not done.
But Steve, i had my windows open and my giant great dane dog that thinks he is a small little yorkie bumped it into gear. Its ok, if you watched the video i posted it will explain what compustar's DAS sensor does. Danny actually starts the car with it in gear! A DAS sensor is a REQUIRED part of a compustar remote starter install in a manual transmission car.
So now you can bring on the questions about a remote starter system.
I am not here to debate opinions, I am mearly here to give the OP some factual information and that it can be done.
Its a safe install, i am not bypassing the clutch switch. You will still need to depress the clutch to start it normally.
I can safely without worries, give a person that doesnt know this is in the vehicle. I know they will not crash it into a wall, run someone over and all the other countless stories we read/hear.
PM me if anyone wants more in depth explaination for my phone number.
I'll explain to you how safe a compustar remote starter system in your manual car is.
First:
-vehicle needs to have ebrake pulled up, then foot off brake. then the doors will unlock
Second:
-vehicle will remain running when the key is removed from the ignition switch
Third:
-once the last door is closed, the vehicle will lock the doors
Now and only now will you be able to start the truck.
Why now Steve? Well "reservation" was met, 1: vehicle brake is on, so it cant roll away. 2: vehicle was in neutral because when you removed the key it was still running via remote starter. if it was in gear vehicle would have shut off when you exited the vehicle. 3: system locked the car and its secure.
But Steve, i forgot my wallet and went back into the car to get it. i might have accidentally put it into gear. Well it wont start because "reservation" mode was not set. Conditions 1,2 and 3 from above were not done.
But Steve, i had my windows open and my giant great dane dog that thinks he is a small little yorkie bumped it into gear. Its ok, if you watched the video i posted it will explain what compustar's DAS sensor does. Danny actually starts the car with it in gear! A DAS sensor is a REQUIRED part of a compustar remote starter install in a manual transmission car.
So now you can bring on the questions about a remote starter system.
I am not here to debate opinions, I am mearly here to give the OP some factual information and that it can be done.
Its a safe install, i am not bypassing the clutch switch. You will still need to depress the clutch to start it normally.
I can safely without worries, give a person that doesnt know this is in the vehicle. I know they will not crash it into a wall, run someone over and all the other countless stories we read/hear.
PM me if anyone wants more in depth explaination for my phone number.
gshadow325
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Do you always assume!!!!
Did you see it roll forward?
That small bit of forward roll, was enough in many of the cases my autobody buddy worked on, to cause the vehicle to hit something, and cause damage.
In the other cases where there was no movement sensor present, it just kept trying to crank the engine..
Yes i assume, from the responses YES.
Yes i saw it roll foward. No it will not do much damage. It will be under the average deductible of $500
Yes, in other CASES. Those cases are 99.9% sure that it was NOT a current Compustar system with a DAS sensor installed properly.
Its your truck you can try what ever you want. Note: You purposely put it into gear and tried to start it. I have a convertible with the top down with a manual transmission. You have a good working parking brake, your vehicle WILL not move at all. At least mine doesnt!
There will be nay sayers. Like i said not trying to start a flaming debate. Just stating facts from experience not from second hand hearsay.
Myrunr2010
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:iagree:
TheDurk
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That's what the clutch start cancel switch does!
But the motion sensor is a cool idea. I don't trust the wimpy 4Runner e-brake against a V6 at high idle, even when working perfectly, which few of them do. And if in 4L-1st gear, fuhgeddaboudit! I guess I better watch the video.
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