1st Oil Change...what a bust!

Casper

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Had the first oil change done today (1600miles) and let me tell ya, I thought that BMW was good at ripping off people...Toyota takes the cake thats for sure.

First off, my first oil change was free from the dealer but because I wanted syn blend (not yet broken in to the point im putting full syn in it) so that was going to cost me the difference in price versus the normal Castrol that they put in.

So since it takes about 7 quarts to do, i got charged for 6 since the price of 5 quarts of regular sludge they use runs about the same as apparently 1 quart of the syn blend.

Well i go to check out and the service advisor is telling me about this situaiton and then wishes me luck and walks away. The nice 85 year old cashier lady then hits me up for $42 bucks total....or 6.50/quart, for GDMFSOB synthetic blend. At that point I thought I was a bit pissed, but then i look at the invoice and they have actually put in Castrol Syntec (full synthetic) and put in 10W-30 versus the 5W-30 that is called for.

Wow...thank god that will be my last dealing with that dealer for service. I guess i do feel slightly better about paying $6.59/quart for full synthetic but thats still about $3/quart higher than it should be anywhere in the world....and to put the wrong viscosity in without saying something to anyone is again unbelievable. I guess they figure that most people will never know the difference. The price per quart is only about $3 less than I pay for Castrol TWS 10W-60 which is made in damn germany specifically for racing porsches and bmw's.. I should have just given the dealer the 2 quarts of that I had laying around to throw in there...would have saved me 12 bucks!

The only upside is that they did adjust my tire pressures to 34psi...when i did it last time the tires must have had some latent heat in them and as such read higher than they really were.
 
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I am always very skeptical when having oil changed at the dealer and specifying synth blend or full synth.

What is to prevent them from charging you one thing and then putting in standard plain jane 5w30 and then saying they used synth blend or full synth.

They may be the ones getting the last laugh.
 
this is true and considering that they botched the oil change anywho...

Im actually going to be speaking with them about this whole little escapade when i leave for the gym in about an hour
 
In the owner's manual it clearly states that 10-30w oil can be used if nothing else is available, but must be changed to 5-30w ASAP.

I would have them change it to the correct viscosity, and while they are at it, go full synthetic, your engine is broken-in.

Koz
 
Yup...I got a shock the first time I let them change it to M1 Synthetic. Now I just bring in my own oil and let them do it.

The dealers around here seem to put in 10W-30 in cars too. I guess they don't feel the weather here really tests the oil's ability to withstand extreme temperatures. But I still prefer the 5W-30 the manual tells you to stick in.
 
dealer is good but do-it-yourself feels better. I don't are about the money, just the my time driving there and waiting a long time for the oil change. don't believe many dealers sending you coupons for a "30 minute" oil change. for a no mess experience try the sure-drain oil drain plug from FRAM ($12). and the v6 oil filter is right under the hood...how easy is that?
 
After the little escapade, they changed it back to 5w30 Synblend Castol, im going to be doing them my damn self from now on. After this oil is spent, ill be swapping to Royal Purple 5w30.
 
I feel a lot happier when I change my own oil! at least I know that its done right with the correct oil and filter i want in it! also I have the V6 and I like all the old oil around where the oil filter is to be remove and clean up B4 the new filter goes on. that just me! you cant go wrong doing it yourself!
 
Casper said:
After the little escapade, they changed it back to 5w30 Synblend Castol, im going to be doing them my damn self from now on. After this oil is spent, ill be swapping to Royal Purple 5w30.


Why royal purple? Have you used it in the past? I read some very interesting things about Royal Purple oil at www.bobistheoilguy.com , do you plan on using extended oil drains?
 
I just looked quickly into Bobtheoilguy.com and while RP isnt the highest rated oil out there its only $1/quart higher than Mobil1 and protects better but is less than half the price of Redline and Amsoil.....

quality of dollar is what brings me to RP...not only that but i have used both their synchromax tranny oil and their 5W30 before in my M5 and it worked fairly well...
 
Casper said:
I just looked quickly into Bobtheoilguy.com and while RP isnt the highest rated oil out there its only $1/quart higher than Mobil1 and protects better but is less than half the price of Redline and Amsoil.....

quality of dollar is what brings me to RP...not only that but i have used both their synchromax tranny oil and their 5W30 before in my M5 and it worked fairly well...

there is no way you are buying RP at HALF the cost of amsoil...... you know I offer a wholesale discount to T4R.ORG members right?

Did you have any used oil analysis performed when you used RP? How do you judge how well it works?
 
i did not have an oil anal. done...ha ha

although i dont see how it could have been any worse than the BMW 5w-30 that was specified by bmw for my m5.

I felt better about it.

Im not sure what amsoil is goign for with the t4r deal but im gettin RP at the price of Mobile 1 here in TX...so i doubt that amsoil is that much lower but im always open for change.
 
Casper said:
i did not have an oil anal. done...ha ha

although i dont see how it could have been any worse than the BMW 5w-30 that was specified by bmw for my m5.

I felt better about it.

Im not sure what amsoil is goign for with the t4r deal but im gettin RP at the price of Mobile 1 here in TX...so i doubt that amsoil is that much lower but im always open for change.

How much are you paying for RP? Can it run for extended drains like amsoil? PM me what you are paying a quart for RP and I will see if I can beat it. I think my wholesale price for SAE 5W-30 is 4.85 a quart. Lemme double check. If you are in Texas, shipping will be like 6-7 bucks for a case of 12 quarts.
 
HEre at pepboys in town its 5.25/quart...pretty darn low if you ask me. Like I said, its only about a buck more than Mobil 1 and so thats one of the largest reasons that I was interested in it.

And I have no problem paying like 5/quart every 3-5K miles for oil changes as I have seen what happens to Castrol's crap that runs for like 15K in BMW's...its not pretty.
 
SO you are paying MORE for RP than Mobil1?? That doesnt make sense, Mobil1 is a far better oil than RP in every way shape and form. Casper Im not telling you what to do, but from my research and reading, Mobil1 is a better oil than royal purple hands down.


Sorry, I have to share my knowledge dude, Im a freakin oil geek. what do you expect?
 
Boaz said:
SO you are paying MORE for RP than Mobil1?? That doesnt make sense, Mobil1 is a far better oil than RP in every way shape and form. Casper Im not telling you what to do, but from my research and reading, Mobil1 is a better oil than royal purple hands down.


Sorry, I have to share my knowledge dude, Im a freakin oil geek. what do you expect?

:iagree:

Koz
 
Casper said:
HEre at pepboys in town its 5.25/quart...pretty darn low if you ask me. Like I said, its only about a buck more than Mobil 1 and so thats one of the largest reasons that I was interested in it.

And I have no problem paying like 5/quart every 3-5K miles for oil changes as I have seen what happens to Castrol's crap that runs for like 15K in BMW's...its not pretty.

and while Im at it, castrol is a very fine oil also, infact I run Castrol GTX in the wifeys jeep. One of the best dino oils out on the market. IMHO RP is on the same level as Pennzoil.... but thats my opinion..... and maybe Koz....
 
I would not even consider regular oil. Red Line oil is also very good. Here's the thing, all full synthetics are very good, but if you want the top (proven) oils, Amsoil and Mobil 1 useally rank top.

Koz
 

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