2013 SR5/Upgrade Pkg Vs. Limited Test-Drive (question!)

JayceeP

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So, first I am new to the forum. Been reading many of your posts for the last several months anonymously as I explore my new vehicle purchase options. Thank you for posting lots of great information.

I just got back from test driving a Black 2013 SR5 with the upgrade package + 3rd row and a left over Shoreline Blue 2012 Limited (only 200km on it). To be honest, I didn't find the suspension that much different between the 2 rides and I also preferred the feel of the 2WD. Did a short stint of city driving and less than 10km of moderately hilly highway driving. Both rode great- LTD a little snappier over bumps.

In Canada, it seems, we get a little less in terms of customization. My only beef with the SR5 is the plastic wheel-well trim/fender flares (I want them body coloured like the LTD) and the lack of chrome accents on the back (4Runner rear chrome badge) and perhaps the grill. How easy is it to acquire these and would I expect a reasonable cost to do so? I can live with the small touch-screen, and mediocre wheels (could always buy new rims and use the OEM 17s as winter tires). Aside from auto temp controls, there really isn't much of a difference between the 2 IMO. Can't see the value in spending $5k more for the LTD.

That being said, what are your thoughts on my rationale above? Also, is it easy to add-on these trivialities after buy (assuming I do). Any further insight or thoughts are greatly welcomed. I am sorry if I've duplicated a thread- didn't see anything that addressed my specific concerns.

Also, CDN MRSP is $44,420 + freight for Upgrade Pkg and $49,085 for LTD. The 2012 was listed for just over $45k including freight/fees. I know invoice is about $4k lower than MRSP as well. Thank you in advance!
 
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We have an 012 w premium (upgrade). It fit our needs and wants better than the Limited. I can't comment on the drive/experience as I've never driven the limited. I preferred the 17" wheels and wanted the Leather,SR,heated seats, third row etc. plus we got 5k off the MRSP which sealed the deal.
 
You're crazy, the Canadian SR5 is sweet! To each their own, but I prefer the plastic trim around the wheel well.
 
Forgot to add, in the states the SR5 has body colored wheel well moldings. I think, the trail is the only one with black.
 
I know it seems trivial- just a personal preferece :). I was hoping some of the forum pros could point me in the right direction to get body coloured flares and chrome accents (really only care about rear 4runner badge and front grille). Anyone have suggestions pls?

Also, I found the SR5 rode very well. Then again, I currently drive a 4-door Wrangler, so I suppose anything is a smoother ride!
 
Also, when I say point me in the right direction, I just want to know is there a particular supplier or company that caters specifically to Toyota and who is the best? Obviously Toyota isn't going to let me customize and I don't really feel like paying 5k to get some fender flares painted and a couple of chrome add-ons by buying the LTD. Thanks again.
 
If you want body colored flares you might want to try grey or black T4R - the flares won't be noticeable in there colors. As per chrome - the only way I see is to trade front grile and rear badge with somebody from US, most people are trying to get rid of chrome in SR5 : )
 
Let me know which one you decide on and I'll post the current invoice pricing and incentives.

Hey Rob- could you post invoice prices for the Upgrade pkg and Ltd. I'm still torn between the 2. Ps nice to see a fellow Maritimer on here. I actually am from NB (SJ) originally. Thanks again!
 
2013 Toyota 4Runner 4WD 4dr V6 SR5 Upgrade PKG
Manufacturers Code: BU3JRA
4WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 3 Years/60,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Hybrid/Electric Components: 8 Years/160,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/60,000 km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 12.7 (Est)
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 9.4 (Est)


Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $37,990.00 $34,569.00
Freight $1,635.00 $1,635.00
Optional equipment selected
- UPGRADE PKG -inc: pwr moonroof, leather seats, heated front seats, 3rd row seats, steering wheel mounted audio controls, aux input jack, USB input, auto-dimming rearview mirror, back-up camera, anti-theft system, rear door courtesy lamp, leather-wrapped steering wheel, leather-wrapped shift knob, extension audio w/navigation, SMS-to-speech, email-to-speech, advanced voice recognition, phonebook & streaming audio via Bluetooth, display of artist, song & album art for connected iPod (Gracenote), 6.1" display screen (B_) $6,430.00 $5,400.00
- AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $46,155.00 $41,704.00
*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.
** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 February 28, 2013
Toyota Mobility Program/Factory to Customer Rebate - Please see General Comment $1,000.00 February 28, 2013
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.9% 36 February 28, 2013
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 February 28, 2013
Retail Finance 2.9% 60 February 28, 2013
Retail Finance 3.9% 72 February 28, 2013
Lease Program
Lease Rate 2.9% 36 February 28, 2013
Lease Rate 3.9% 48 February 28, 2013
Lease Rate 4.9% 60 February 28, 2013
We are currently updating our system with new incentives. You will receive an automated email as soon as new incentives are entered.
 
2013 Toyota 4Runner 4WD 4dr V6 Limited
Manufacturers Code: BU3JRA
4WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 3 Years/60,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Hybrid/Electric Components: 8 Years/160,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/60,000 km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 12.7 (Est)
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 9.4 (Est)


Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $37,990.00 $34,569.00
Freight $1,635.00 $1,635.00
Optional equipment selected
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- LIMITED PKG 7-PASSENGER -inc: 3rd row seats, pwr moonroof, leather seats, heated front seats, steering wheel mounted audio controls, USB input, auto-dimming rearview mirror, back-up camera, anti-theft system, rear door courtesy lamp, 20" aluminum wheels, P245/60R20 tires, full size spare tire, push button start, smart key system, X-reas sport suspension, JBL audio system w/4-disc in-dash CD changer, (15) speakers, rear subwoofer, exterior mirrors w/integrated turn signals & puddle lamps, front door handle touch sensor lock/unlock, Optitron gauges, automatic on/off headlights, limited grade chrome grille, chrome fog light surround, chrome door handles, rear chrome trunk trim, body-coloured fender flares, chrome roof rail trim, front & rear underbody spoilers, dual-zone automatic climate control, 2 aux pwr outlets, full-time 4WD, unique running boards, voice-activated navigation system w/integrated backup camera, XM real-time traffic capability, leather-wrapped steering wheel, leather-wrapped shift knob, aux input jack, extension audio w/navigation, SMS-to-speech, email-to-speech, advanced voice recognition, phonebook & streaming audio via Bluetooth, display of artist, song & album art for connected iPod (Gracenote), 6.1" display screen *Deletes clearance & back-up sonar* (E_) $11,895.00 $9,991.00
- AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $51,620.00 $46,295.00
*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.
** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Toyota Mobility Program/Factory to Customer Rebate - Please see General Comment $1,000.00 February 28, 2013
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 February 28, 2013
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.9% 36 February 28, 2013
Retail Finance 1.9% 48 February 28, 2013
Retail Finance 2.9% 60 February 28, 2013
Retail Finance 3.9% 72 February 28, 2013
Lease Program
Lease Rate 2.9% 36 February 28, 2013
Lease Rate 3.9% 48 February 28, 2013
Lease Rate 4.9% 60 February 28, 2013
We are currently updating our system with new incentives. You will receive an automated email as soon as new incentives are entered.
 
Rob- really appreciate that! Great info to have going in to negotiations. Only downside for us CDN buyers is I suppose we don't have the luxury of inventory like they do in the states. Seems like order only. Halifax Toyota has 1 2013 if you can imagine.
 
I purchased my Trail Edition at Amherst Toyota, it had to be shipped in from a dealer in Montreal. Took about a week or so to arrive. If you can find a dealer with an in-stock unit, you'll certainly have better negotiating leverage.
 
I purchased my Trail Edition at Amherst Toyota, it had to be shipped in from a dealer in Montreal. Took about a week or so to arrive. If you can find a dealer with an in-stock unit, you'll certainly have better negotiating leverage.
How willing were they to negotiate below MRSP?

in the states the SR5 has body colored wheel well moldings. I think, the trail is the only one with black.
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It's incredibly annoying. Not sure why we have to get duped out of a bit of customization in Canada. That and the chrome appearance package doesn't even exist. Have to pay full pop for the LTD to get it. As mentioned above, some US owners may be interested in swapping some exterior items.

If I can get a few k off MRSP, I'll probably just go with the upgrade pkg and either live with the black plastic wheel well moldings, or figure out how to paint them myself and look into getting the chrome accents I want (rear name plate and front grill- don't really care about the door handles).
 
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A skinny deal is better than no deal. I had to go just over 3% over invoice. Remember to negotiate the 'out the door' price to avoid getting zapped with extras fees, etc. Play the game according to your rules...not theirs.
 
A skinny deal is better than no deal. I had to go just over 3% over invoice. Remember to negotiate the 'out the door' price to avoid getting zapped with extras fees, etc. Play the game according to your rules...not theirs.

That doesn't seem too bad actually. I will certainly keep them in mind as I get closer to pulling the pin. Oregan's pretty well owns every dealership down here, so not sure how much luck I will have in HRM.

My hang-up right now is I have a 2010 4door Wrangler with 60k that I need to sell privately... can't see Toyota giving me anywhere closer to fair market value on a trade-in so I think the tax savings wouldn't be worth it. My plan is to sell the Jeep and then my better half and I just share her car until I can get us into a 4Runner (for the right price of course).
 
Hmmm, very interesting. Unlimited Sahara, both tops (soft never used), auto, nav... That alone says it's worth $20,500-$23,295 w/ 60,500km. I also have remote start, tow group, and rear anti-slip diff. Avg asking price is $24,379. I'd list it on Kijiji for $25,000.

Also, it has gotten the clay bar treatment every spring so the paint is mint.
 

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