2016 Rear Fog Light

[rigtec]

I quizzed my dealer parts guy about a rear fog light for my 2016 SR5 4WD. He could provide no help.

Has anyone figured out a kit/add on for one???

I've search about every way I can think of, like UK and Japan models, and come up with nothing.

Hi Salvo Jimmy,

I think at least 90% of this thread (if not 100%) will offer you much to work with!: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...ht-mod-%96-sr5-factory-bumper-rigid-sr-q.html [MENTION=81322]barryhiram[/MENTION] is using these as 'In-bumper' back-up lights but I see no reason that you couldn't embellish on his method of modification and apply it to perhaps a different color or defused light output pattern!

Hope this helps!

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

Hi Salvo Jimmy,

I think at least 90% of this thread (if not 100%) will offer you much to work with!: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...ht-mod-%96-sr5-factory-bumper-rigid-sr-q.html [MENTION=81322]barryhiram[/MENTION] is using these as 'In-bumper' back-up lights but I see no reason that you couldn't embellish on his method of modification and apply it to perhaps a different color or defused light output pattern!

Hope this helps!

Thanks, Someone had put me on that thread earlier, but I was just looking for something simple without all the wiring, switches, cutting, etc that could use the trailer connection and be swapped from hitch extender to stock hitch when my rear fishin' rod / cooler rack was/wasn't on.

The setup with the rewired Bully gives a very visible red light, but not blinding, and it does not violate any light law in VA or NC where almost all my driving is done.

Here is pic with rack on

 

[djteedub]

So I think I need this. Basically, my 11 T4R was originally purchased overseas and I'd like to do this to replace the low hanging drivers side light that was installed on mine.

 

[e60ral]

Not trying to rain (or fog!) on your parade but have you thought about how useful will this actually be in practice? I understand the point of the rear fog light and I agree they have merit, but part of their usefulness comes from the general driving population understanding their purpose too. Places in Europe where a rear fog light is a standard feature on a vehicle are also places where people understand the point of a rear fog. Here in North America I'd hazard a guess that less than 10% of the population would recognize your rear fog light for what it is and react accordingly. The majority of drivers who see it will likely think that you have some weird brake light or a wiring malfunction and not give it a second thought. Or worse, they'll think "great, this guy has a nice bright light on the back of his truck, let's follow him closely through the fog". The exact opposite of the desired reaction.

Again, I'm not trying to discourage you from trying this but I wanted to bring up that point for consideration.

there is no special advance knowledge required, the purpose of the fog light is so that it can be seen from farther away. in dense fog a car can almost appear out of nowhere when its really thick and you're approaching them at decent speed, a brighter light can be seen earlier. So the "reacting accordingly" is just seeing the light sooner/from farther away, no special knowledge required.

 

[RysiuM]

There is required knowledge how to use them correctly. They can't be used in good visibility as they are bright enough to blind people following you.

In Europe you wil get a ticket if you use them without fog. I don't know if there is same regulation here in US.

 

[TurkEclipse]

Finally got around to the rewire and it works fine. Just using an 1157 incandescent for the time being.

Hi Jimmy - I want to do the same exact thing as you did. How did you rewire the extension to the bully?

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

Hi Jimmy - I want to do the same exact thing as you did. How did you rewire the extension to the bully?

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I just cut off a bit of insulation on the tail light wire on the extension, cut the brake light wire and attached it to the tail light wire where insulation cut off. Taped everything up good. No problems since 2016

 

[cb1111]

BTW I searched the USDOT site many different ways, including the commercial vehicle portion, and could find nothing on rear fogs, only front fogs. Interestingly I did find where they had recommended that states allow use of emergency flashers on moving vehicles during reduced visibility. Many states now do but many don't. VA still only allows use on stopped vehicles or one going less than 30 mph. NC is silent on use for private passenger vehicles.

Correct. US regs (as in the FMVSS) do not address rear fogs - which is why the states cannot require them.

In Europe, the rear fog has been required on the driver's side since the early 90's. The purpose is to show the position of the vehicle and is only to be used in fog (not rain or snow) when the visibility drops to under 50 meters.

In the US, some imports have two rear fogs - because:

1, it is too difficult to explain why only one is lit
2, it is easier for wiring to just remove a bulb for Euro delivery and the same setup can be used for RHD and LHD.

You'll usually see this on Audi, older Jaguars and some Land Rovers.

The problem with fog lights in the US is that people will use them whenever they want because it looks cool and to hell with drivers following you that are distracted by what appears to be always on brake lights.

 

[RysiuM]

In Europe, the rear fog has been required on the driver's side since the early 90's. The purpose is to show the position of the vehicle and is only to be used in fog (not rain or snow) when the visibility drops to under 50 meters.

In Europe in early 90's it was required to use one on the left side so car manufacturers did not need to redesign the tail of existing production cars. What they did is they replaced left reverse light with red bulb or red lenses and wire it to separate switch. Now after most models sold in Europe were entirely redesigned quite common is having two rear fog lights (one in each lamp) or even one rear fog light located at the center (below license plate). And because they are required to be at least 10 cm away from position or stop lights (usually separated by yellow turn signal or clear backup light) they cannot be mistaken for "stuck stop light".

However the "rules of engagement" did not change - you can only turn them on when there is a fog reducing the visibility to 50 meters or less. If you use them in other conditions the ticket will be in order (easy meet for highway patrol).

 

[cb1111]

The German rules of the road (Straßenverkehrs-Ordnung (StVO) only allow for the use of the rear fog during fog with visibility of under 50 meters and a maximum speed of 50kmh (50mph). Two rear fogs have recently been allowed, but when they were first mandated in 1991, only one on the driver's side was allowed.

 

[RysiuM]

The German rules of the road (Straßenverkehrs-Ordnung (StVO) only allow for the use of the rear fog during fog with visibility of under 50 meters and a maximum speed of 50kmh (50mph). Two rear fogs have recently been allowed, but when they were first mandated in 1991, only one on the driver's side was allowed.

Not sure exactly about timing, but Poland being a part of EU now has the same regulations. However these lights while having the safety in mind are the most useless light for me. In these 3 years I have them installed on all my USA cars I used each one of them only 3 times - only during annual safety inspection in 2017, 218 and 2019 :naughty:

 

[Salvo Jimmy]

Not sure exactly about timing, but Poland being a part of EU now has the same regulations. However these lights while having the safety in mind are the most useless light for me. In these 3 years I have them installed on all my USA cars I used each one of them only 3 times - only during annual safety inspection in 2017, 218 and 2019 :naughty:

I use mine often on the NC Outer Banks in frequent “sea fog”