I never said I had any issue paying more money. I absolutely would. My max is $50k so my $40k Limited came in well under budget. Just a wish list. We can all dream can't we??
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I never said I had any issue paying more money. I absolutely would. My max is $50k so my $40k Limited came in well under budget. Just a wish list. We can all dream can't we??
HighOnRice
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I would wish for an Entune system that doesn't reboot randomly lol :behindsofa:
I feel your pain, I have never seriously considered making a move on a GX... but have occasionally day-dreamed about the Luxury features plus V8 and keep coming back to the rear hatch. I was able to overcome styling issues, bu the the "barn-door" and no roll down back window were too much.
wolfgang
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I've been putting off replacing my '03 SE. Every time I go to Yota show room I'm put off that what's there is 4 years behind other vehicles. While I appreciate the mechanical dependability - On 4th Gen, a cracking dash, rusting calipers, flaking clear coat, crappy MPG, rusting rock shields (not from rocks but from inside out) have kept me from paying a premium for a new Toyota (including the 4RNR).
chmura
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The small new Lexus NX SUV has a new turbo 4 cylinder that is out now. First turbo from Lexus.
Maybe we will see Toyota producing more Turbos in the future. I'm pretty sure they will be more turbo offerings from Toyota.
Toyota needs to make a 3.0L V6 turbo for the next 4runner.
Maybe we will see Toyota producing more Turbos in the future. I'm pretty sure they will be more turbo offerings from Toyota.
Toyota needs to make a 3.0L V6 turbo for the next 4runner.
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I had one of them for a bit.. well, it was the 1.6L ecoboost... Lots of them are developing issue with carbon buildup on the valves, resulting in Ford replacing the heads.. Ever since hearing that, Ford Turbo'd motors scare me lol. Maybe Toyota could do better... I personally wouldn't want to see it though. More issues down the road.
The carbon buildup issue isn't limited to FI engines, it appears to be an issue related to DI engines.
I have full confidence and faith that Toyota can do turbocharging while keeping reliability and durability. They are the company that brought us the MK4 Supra...
1engineer
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Toyota, Honda and Subaru can all add turbos and superchargers and still maintain a certain reliability and durability. The problem is cost, as it is in any endeavor. Let's say you could add a turbo for $2K and get a 10% power increase. Now let's say you can add that turbo to get the 10% power increase but to get the same reliability and durability as you had with the stock power plant its gonna cost you (better design, parts) $3K. That's the way Toyota and Honda do it. Ford, GM and Chrysler? um no. It's all about the price point fellas.
I think you have it right.
Toyota won't do it until they can do it right and within the pricepoint they need. Ford will get it pretty close, and then use customers as field testers and just warranty and make changes once it's on the market.
I'd also assume there are several platforms that a smaller turbo V6 could be used in to spread costs. Though I don't expect a change like this sooner than 7th Gen.
So I have to spend $80,000 to get a console with a small compartment on top (like I had on my '04 Tundra) or a coin holder that holds more than 8 quarters (quarters only)?
NoDak
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yeah the GX460 and LC, they sell 1/2 the amount of the 4runners, but the $$$ made per unit sold is gonna be higher than the 4runner by a big margin.
and for all those that want a v8, you folks need to realize its not gonna happen. hence they removed the v8 and gave it to the lexus models. why have a 4runner with a v8 killing your v8 lexus sales.
and the numbers show a jump in sales in the v8 lexus once they dropped the v8 in the 4runner. the sales jumped from 6k to 16k in 1 year and leveled off around 11-12k a year after that.
the price differential was like 16k in 2004 between the v8 4runner and the GX470.
and we don't even know how the café rules will affect the 4runner with a v8 on Toyota compared to the lexus selling ~12k vs 50k+.
king noob
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most turbo-charged subaru variants of their 2.5 boxter engines are notoriously UNreliable. you wouldn't think so, but it's the truth, i can tell you first-hand.
The GX has been cancelled... Leaving a window open for the 4Runner to get the V8 back as an option.
I would argue that most 2.5 turbo Subaru's kept stock are reliable. While some have failed stock, most have ring land issues with tune. There is speculation that it has to do with injector pulse causing a lean condition. It doesn't show up in the afr across the board but the 2k-3k rpm stumble is at least one piston going very lean.
NoDak
Senior Member
still wont happen. just means it will go in the replacement if they do replace the GX stateside.
GX will still be around due to the rest of the world using the Prado.
YES...$80,000 will also get you a V8 lol
I wonder how hard it would be to integrate the power lift gate system from the highlander. the power struts probably wouldn't fit in the body pocket for the struts.
Toyota uses a combination of port and direct injection to help combat the carbon build up.
Ford has a pretty solid history of reliable supercharging ('03-04 Cobras, Lightnings) and the new turbo engines aren't all that bad (Carbon deposits notwithstanding). So it can be done.
I could see wanting it once you have had it, but I personally don't want a power lift gate. I have been cross shopping the new Outbacks as well and am not enthralled with being forced into it.
As for what I'd like to see, after test driving a Limited the other day....
I'd like to see a removable front air dam to get that extra 1-2 mpg on the highway and maybe the 3.5L from the Highlander for $1000 less.
1engineer
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Front air dam HELPS, not hurts, efficiency. If you took that off the FT 4WD, combined with the bit of extra pounds the LE has, would drop the LE below the SR5 and the TE models that are configured the same.
Jernik
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I think that was what he meant. Removable so you can put it on to pick up MPG on the highway, and take it off when you want the extra clearance offroad.
