2018 4Runner TRD OR - deep snow impressions

sonjason

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I was excited to know that we were forecasted to get between 1 to 2 feet of snow here in the NC mountains this past weekend. I was ready to test the capability of our new 2018 TRD OR 4Runner... My brother lives up a pretty steep incline. It is paved, but a sharp curve right ahead of the steepest incline kinda kills your speed. Last year he tried taking his Dodge Ran 1500 4x4 up the driveway in 9 inches of fresh snow, that didn't end well. I ended up using our 2016 Wrangler Willys to make him a path up. The Jeep had ZERO issues going up the hill in the snow. I simply put it in 4Hi and up I went... I had done the same before in my 2006 4Runner sport edition. I just knew this shiny new 5th gen was going to make me feel all kinds of badassery.

Fast forward to now, and our new 2018 4Runner TRD OR. I assumed the T4R would go up as easily as the Jeep did - not the case at all. I just put it in 4Hi and off I went... or so I thought. I got stopped pretty quick in the 4runner. Snow was a bit deeper this time, close to 13 inches as opposed to 9 last year in the Jeep... pretty wet snow in both cases. I will be the first to say, it was probably my ignorance of all of the various systems/settings in the T4R - and I didn't read the manual at all... so shame on me. My 4Runner has the matte black TRD wheels with Duratrac tires from the factory, and those tires are severe snow service rated. I just assumed to be honest the T4R would easily do the same thing the Jeep did last year with BFG mud terrains.

Boy was I wrong. I backed up and punted. Decided to fiddle with MTS and see what happened. I enabled MT/S and turned to the first dial, which I now know is Mud/Sand. Still no luck getting up.

Backed up again and said piss on it. Turned off MTS and put it in 4Lo, and turned on the rear diff lock. This time I made it up, but it still wasn't "easy".

Now my question... WTH did I do wrong? What would have been the best setting to climb a steep paved incline in 13 inches of wet snow, with relative ease - on ONE try? Or are my expectations too high? I feel like my issue is that perhaps I didn't turn off the traction control stuff, and when I enabled 4Lo that was disabled automatically, but not sure. Just looking for real world experience from fellow 4Runner enthusiasts.


For comparisons sake, a friend of mine has a 2001 Tacoma regular cab 4x4 with no locker and none of these bells and whistles, and he made a similar climb this weekend in same conditions in that truck with no issues whatsoever.
 
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Feel like weight probably plays a big part in it. The 4Runner is about 1000 pounds more than the Wrangler and Taco.
 
Your T4 has 9.6 inches clearance, the heavy, wet snow was 13 inches. Maybe too much to push uphill?

I have avoided deep snow. I'll be watching to see input from others.
 
I have a feeling, this thread is going to get interesting.

I hope peeps that live in snow areas with a lot of T4R experience will chime in to help answer your questions.
What little snow we get from time to time, never had any issue. WAY less than you experience though!
 
Anyone know?

Would A-Trac have helped? I have a TRDOR as well, but haven't had opportunity to test 4WD yet.
 
We recently received 10 inches of snow in west Texas, very rare! So I took the advantage and played out in a field. I was very impressed with the performance! 4HI never failed. Granted this is flat land and only 10 inches.
 
The Willys comes standard with mud terrain tires, no? If you're still on the stock 4Runner tires I imagine that alone would be enough for a noticeable difference in the same conditions. I've never had an issue in deep snow in my 4Runner.
 
I have a 17. I get a decent amount of snow in my area and I have tried to get stuck before. I have never needed anything but 4 high to get out. it sounds more like you had ice, or wet snow packed so hard it was ice.
 
Interested to see what folks say in this thread. I've got a fairly steep driveway to contend with and it can get nasty with snow and ice. (Still dealing with a shoulder injury from last March after wiping out while walking.)

My prior car (VW Tiguan with Michelin Pilots) did horribly on it and a key reason I got my TRD Pro is to handle snow better. It call comes down to tires + weight + traction technology + actual conditions on the roadway.

I'm sure people will say this is ridiculous but I picked up some burly snow chains just in case.
 
What kind of tires were you running across each vehicle? Huge difference here.

My two cents are if you live in a cold weather / seasonal climate is to always have a decent set of snow tires and wheels to run in winter and cold months. Saves your expensive and oversized offroading tire tread for the trails in summer time. :)
 
The Willys comes standard with mud terrain tires, no? If you're still on the stock 4Runner tires I imagine that alone would be enough for a noticeable difference in the same conditions. I've never had an issue in deep snow in my 4Runner.

As stated in my original post, my T4R came stock with the TRD wheels and Duratrac tires... which are supposed to be rated for severe snow service with the snowflake symbol.
 
What kind of tires were you running across each vehicle? Huge difference here.

My two cents are if you live in a cold weather / seasonal climate is to always have a decent set of snow tires and wheels to run in winter and cold months. Saves your expensive and oversized offroading tire tread for the trails in summer time. :)

This info was in the original post... Jeep had stock BFG mud terrains... the 4runner has the Duratracs. I assumed those would be better than the BFG Mudders in snow.
 
I went up to Cataloochee for some snowboarding on Sunday. Couldn't pass up all that snow. I had a great experience with my 4Runner and 285 Nitto RGs.

I'd say your case was weight played a big part. Were you flooring it? Tire spin in the snow is terrible. Everytime your tire spins on that snow it gets slicker. Lots of factors in this scenario and any of them could have changed the outcome.

Here's a pic because a thread with no pics is worthless.

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real world experience?

5 more minutes in the driveway is worth more than 20 hours posting/reading on this forum about driving in the snow
 
Tires make all the difference. I skied every other day here in Utah the past 2 weeks (100 miles round trip). My resort was getting 10+ inches of snow every 3 days. Only had to go into 4-Hi once because I was behind a few Subarus that were going extra slow. BFG K02s worked like a charm.
 
I went up to Cataloochee for some snowboarding on Sunday. Couldn't pass up all that snow. I had a great experience with my 4Runner and 285 Nitto RGs.

I'd say your case was weight played a big part. Were you flooring it? Tire spin in the snow is terrible. Everytime your tire spins on that snow it gets slicker. Lots of factors in this scenario and any of them could have changed the outcome.

Here's a pic because a thread with no pics is worthless.

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Yeah I agree on the pics, but your pic shows a scraped/treated road. My road was a virgin 13 inches of snow with a paved road underneath that was completely unable to be seen. I wasn't flooring it, but probably gave more gas than I would have once I started losing traction.
 
Tires make all the difference. I skied every other day here in Utah the past 2 weeks (100 miles round trip). My resort was getting 10+ inches of snow every 3 days. Only had to go into 4-Hi once because I was behind a few Subarus that were going extra slow. BFG K02s worked like a charm.

Maybe I am wrong, but my Duratrac's are supposed to be fine in snow. They have the snowflake and reviews are great as well.
 
real world experience?

5 more minutes in the driveway is worth more than 20 hours posting/reading on this forum about driving in the snow

Fair enough, but I made it after 3 tries of trail and error. Just assumed some of you Canadian or west coast guys could chime in with tried and true deep snow performance info.
 

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