2020 model issues/observations

cb1111 said:
Audi/VW does not allow you roll up the windows via remote. Again the FMVSS preclude this except in very limited circumstances (within 6 ft IIRC).

The reason for this is because a child/animal could have a body part hanging out the window and the auto stop could be defective. Accordingly, by either not allowing this (or withing eyesight - those 6ft), you are possibly reducing injury.

VW/Audi and some other cars will allow you to roll up the windows using the key in the door lock - turning towards lock and holding for a few seconds rolls them up - towards unlock rolls them down.
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Ok. My old Mk IV Golf windows went up and down with remote. My son's MkV GTI and my friend's Passat W8 do too. If you look across the internet you will see this is pretty common. I'm pretty sure I have rolled them up from at least 50' away because I could look out my window at work to where I parked and if it looked like rain, up they went. That's why I'm disappointed when I get other vehicles that do no do that.

Almost all cars that have remote down windows will allow you to roll them up with the key inserted as you described, even the 4Runner which tech-wise is about 10yrs behind the times.
 
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00Sebby said:
I used Carista on mine yesterday to program this function. Now, I hold down unlock and after a small delay, the front/rear passenger door windows and sunroof open. The rear hatch window does not go down.

However, they do not go back up unless you use the key. But with the key, they will all (including the rear hatch window) close back.
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Yeah its not a feature I really care about, but I'm always looking for things to override the stupidity of Toyota. I mean I paid for all this safety tech on my 2020 and I have every bit of it turned off.
 
RichinRidgewood said:
Why wont the dealer engage this feature if it's available???
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Maybe I wasn't clear - the only option that dealer may not enable is the seat-belt chime disable. The windows arent an issue. Also, in the owners manual is a list of other customizations that can be done by the dealer (or tech stream or carista)
 
DallasTRDPro said:
Yeah its not a feature I really care about, but I'm always looking for things to override the stupidity of Toyota. I mean I paid for all this safety tech on my 2020 and I have every bit of it turned off.
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Yeah, but I never thought of turning off chimes for seat belts and open doors or how the windows roll up and down as a safety issue. I would never forget to put on seat belts but if I had to drive over to the barn across a field I might forego that step. As for doors, there is that pesky light on the dash. I do like the adaptive cruise and crash avoidance stuff though.
 
00Sebby said:
Yeah, but I never thought of turning off chimes for seat belts and open doors or how the windows roll up and down as a safety issue. I would never forget to put on seat belts but if I had to drive over to the barn across a field I might forego that step. As for doors, there is that pesky light on the dash. I do like the adaptive cruise and crash avoidance stuff though.
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Yeah when I had Jeeps I turned off the seatbelt chime as my first mod before I drove off the lot. Adaptive cruise is so annoying to me. I just want to slow down when I want to not when the car in front of me does. I've been driving for 32 years and never had an accident because of cruise control. As far as crash avoidance, I want last second crash avoidance not 1/4 mile crash avoidance. If companies want to give me safety features, then make my 4R suddenly take flight to avoid being T-boned or rear ended.

As long as all safety features can be turned off then I'm fine with it. Hell, if I don't want to wear a seatbelt that shouldn't be mandated by law just like if someone doesn't want to wear a helmet. This new generation grew up with all this tech so they never knew the freedom of driving a car. And many people have been driving with this tech for a decade, but since I've been driving Jeeps I'm just not used to it yet. Others are used to all the beeps and vibrations.
 
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00Sebby said:
Ok. My old Mk IV Golf windows went up and down with remote. My son's MkV GTI and my friend's Passat W8 do too. If you look across the internet you will see this is pretty common. I'm pretty sure I have rolled them up from at least 50' away because I could look out my window at work to where I parked and if it looked like rain, up they went. That's why I'm disappointed when I get other vehicles that do no do that.

Almost all cars that have remote down windows will allow you to roll them up with the key inserted as you described, even the 4Runner which tech-wise is about 10yrs behind the times.
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Here's the reg. I was wrong when I said 6ft. The reg states 6 meters.

If your fob worked from 50' away to roll up the windows , then somebody deactivated it with VCDS.

The reg states in part:

S4. Operating requirements. Except as provided in S5, power operated window, partition, or roof panel systems may be closed only in the following circumstances:

(d) Upon continuous activation of a remote actuation device, provided that the remote actuation device shall be incapable of closing the power window, partition or roof panel from a distance of more than 6 meters from the vehicle;
 
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cb1111 said:
Here's the reg. I was wrong when I said 6ft. The reg states 6 meters.

If your fob worked from 50' away to roll up the windows , then somebody deactivated it with VCDS.

The reg states in part:

S4. Operating requirements. Except as provided in S5, power operated window, partition, or roof panel systems may be closed only in the following circumstances:

(d) Upon continuous activation of a remote actuation device, provided that the remote actuation device shall be incapable of closing the power window, partition or roof panel from a distance of more than 6 meters from the vehicle;
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That makes sense. I bought all of my VWs used so that could've been done by previous owners.
 
DallasTRDPro said:
I've had my 2020 TRD Pro for 3400 miles and exactly 30 days. I love this truck. Its a nice combination of tech, off road capability, on road comfort and stock looks. Now I'm coming from a Jeep Rubicon so it didn't have any tech, on road sucked and I had to spend $10K to get it to look the way I wanted to. Things I don't understand though.

1. After remote starting, why the hell does the 4R turn off when you unlock the doors?? Please tell me there is an actual reason.

2. And equally annoying is why can you unlock all four doors when opening the passenger side door, but not when opening the drivers??

Are there any ways to override the 2nd complaint??
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I wish you could sort of double-tap the handle to unlock all the doors. Like if you grab the driver's door handle once and pull, it only unlocks the driver's door. But if you grab it and let go and grab it again or kinda tap it twice, it unlocks the driver's door and then the rest.

I understand why it's a safety feature though. The bigger gripe I have is them not putting a sensor in the handle of all 4 doors. On my Mercedes, you can grab any of the 4 door handles and they open and you can lock the car by touching any of the 4 handles. No idea why Toyota decided against that. I wouldn't have cost that more to include it.
 
david05111 said:
I wish you could sort of double-tap the handle to unlock all the doors. Like if you grab the driver's door handle once and pull, it only unlocks the driver's door. But if you grab it and let go and grab it again or kinda tap it twice, it unlocks the driver's door and then the rest.
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You can configure it to open all doors at once and the instructions are earlier in this same thread.

https://www.toyota-4runner.org/3449517-post120.html

david05111 said:
The bigger gripe I have is them not putting a sensor in the handle of all 4 doors. On my Mercedes, you can grab any of the 4 door handles and they open and you can lock the car by touching any of the 4 handles. No idea why Toyota decided against that. I wouldn't have cost that more to include it.
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Agreed. It's annoying to have to grab the front door handle to unlock the doors just to put something in the back seat.
 
adrtoy said:
IDK if it's already been mentioned, but the screen resolution is terrible.
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Have you found it to be? I’ve actually been quite pleased with the screen in mine so far. It’s easy to read and navigate, isn’t too bright at night, and doesn’t polarize under polarized glasses. I’ve never noticed he resolution being an issue
 
00Sebby said:
That makes sense. I bought all of my VWs used so that could've been done by previous owners.
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Back then, dealers were far more willing to make changes as well.

The problem is that we have to legislate to the dumbest amongst us. Some owner rolls up his beat up old car with a broken pinch protection and squishes his kid because he closed the windows from so far away (or around a corner) that he couldn't see what he was doing and we have a new regulation.
 
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