2022 Tundra or 2022 4Runner?

[Blackwatch]

I test drove a 2020 off-road and found it was like driving a smaller Chevy Tahoe which I love. I’m assuming that mangusson will have a super charger out for the 2020-2022 4Runner in the next year or so. They aren’t cheap but as long as they don’t screw with the reliability I would definitely get one.
The 4Runner is most likely what I’m getting. Ideally I would get a tundra for 5 or 6 years then a 4Runner but I don’t want a 4cyl turbo. I live in a rust belt on the Atlantic Ocean so buying a 5 year old 4Runner will most likely have rust starting.
Any issues with the super charger shortening the life of these 4.0s?
Thanks for all the advice, it helps.

 

[Whippersnapper02]

Any issues with the super charger shortening the life of these 4.0s?

Installed one at about 90K and made it to 155K before someone ran a red and totaled my Tacoma. Those were hard 4wd launch miles too. No way of really knowing when it will die but forced induction does add more stress to the engine. Just keep it maintained.

 

[Blackwatch]

Ive considered this myself...personally i came down on the side of the ONLY next vehicle i'd get would be an LC200/Lex LX...since im hanging onto my old F150 anyway

however, if i were looking, may i offer this idea...a 2020 or 2021 tundra TRD off-rd is looking for a good home too. Like Land, they aint making the V8s anymore, and we already know those can get you to half a million miles if you need it to. the big 4dr version is Sequioua-SUV size inside, and if you can put up with a little less state of the art gadgets, it is as sweet driving as most anything out there.

If it were my money, that's what i would do.

I do like the 21 Tundras but they are more than a used one now. In Canada you can't charge more than msrp on new vehicles but can rip people off on used ones. So used Tundras, 4runners etc are more expensive now when they are 2 years old than new ones. And I do have to draw the line somewhere on mpg, the 4runner is about as hard on gas as I want.

 

[FirefighterMTN]

I had the same question swimming around my head before I bought my '14 T4R.

I did a page of pros and cons. The 4Runner won out!

Thought I needed a truck, truly didn't. SUV made way more sense.

Been driving an Outback after selling my 4Runner and have regretted it ever since. It's a great car, but it's just a car. A to B transportation.

I was waiting for the new Tundra to come out and once again did the pros vs cons. The Tundra looks to be an awesome truck and has so many qualities that I'd like, but I still don't need a truck. Plus, I live in a more urban area and the overall size makes it even less practical than a 4Runner.

Getting ready to order a TRD Off-Road!!

 

[PretzelCann0n]

Apples and oranges.

I had a '16 F150 Lariat that I loved before getting my '20 T4R ORP. My problem was that 1/2 ton trucks are effing huuuge, and it was a absolute pain to take it anywhere and park it. It was so bad where I live I found myself not going anywhere out of fear of getting annoyed with maneuvering and parking it. If you live somewhere like the south with bigger roads/parking spots it may not be as much of an issue, but it was for me in Washington.

The T4R is way more fun and it can go anywhere. MUCH better for taking the border collie around as well.

 

[Blackwatch]

Apples and oranges.

I had a '16 F150 Lariat that I loved before getting my '20 T4R ORP. My problem was that 1/2 ton trucks are effing huuuge, and it was a absolute pain to take it anywhere and park it. It was so bad where I live I found myself not going anywhere out of fear of getting annoyed with maneuvering and parking it. If you live somewhere like the south with bigger roads/parking spots it may not be as much of an issue, but it was for me in Washington.

The T4R is way more fun and it can go anywhere. MUCH better for taking the border collie around as well.

I live in rural Nova Scotia so full size pick ups are the norm and easy to get around in. I've wanted a 4Runner since about 87 when I started noticing the topless runners in the summer, such an iconic vehicle. The new Tundra looks great but I'm pushing 50 and don't want to have car payments after retirement. I fear the new tech twin turbo will have long term reliability issues compared to the 4runner. Pretty much have my mind made up. 22 off-road in lunar rock with pro wheels and heritage grill to start.

 

[Turfboy]

My recommendation is measure garage space. I found parking a vehicle in the garage significantly increases its Life. My garage limited my choices to the Tacoma or T4R. Test drove both. T4R just felt better.

 

[BorotHex]

OMG no question the Tundra if you can actually buy one.

 

[Cheers!]

Lease for 3 years. If good and no problems buy it out. If crap, return back to dealer. I too would not buy a year 1 vehicle.

 

[BorotHex]

Lease for 3 years. If good and no problems buy it out. If crap, return back to dealer. I too would not buy a year 1 vehicle.

But Toyotas are perfect. No need to worry.

 

[Blackwatch]

My recommendation is measure garage space. I found parking a vehicle in the garage significantly increases its Life. My garage limited my choices to the Tacoma or T4R. Test drove both. T4R just felt better.

I don't have a garage, I built this house as a retirement spot so in 6-7 years I will be down south and my truck will go into storage for 6-8 months. The only issue with a garage where I live is the winter. The constant freezing and thawing of the truck that is coated in road salt makes the salt corrode the metal faster.
7 years and it won't see salt.

Lease for 3 years. If good and no problems buy it out. If crap, return back to dealer. I too would not buy a year 1 vehicle.

I thought about that option but the 4runner is about to be completely changed so in 3 years I could potentially be looking for a 3 year old 4Runner that hasn't been uncoated or looked after. I do like the idea of buying a new truck and knowing how it's been taken care of from new. Plus I am worried about the longevity of the turbo tundra. I'm sure the first 3 years would be fun to have it though.

 

[Blackwatch]

I test drove a 22 Tundra SR5 today. That just made this decision harder. Toyota did a great job with the new Tundra. A little wind noise from the A pillar but the truck is fast and develops power at low RPMs. It is big though. The edges of the hood seem to be flared up to block your view.
As I said earlier, longterm reliability is my main concern. I do see how the smaller size of the 4Runner works to it's advantage as an overall exploring vehicle.
The dealer did offer $600 off MSRP on a new 22 4Runner off-road. I am leaning towards ordering the 4Runner tomorrow

 

[Pedro367]

Such a tough call. I've had multiple trucks in the past and I sure do miss the practicality of them, especially now that the back seats are SO BIG in them. 2 car seats are easy peasy and the bed is there for Home Depot runs, lumber, deer, the ATV, everything. I went to a 4Runner and bought a 6x12 trailer. I really love my 4R more than any other SUV I've had, but I sure can't say I don't miss the pickup bed. I rebuilt my entire deck with it and tons of other projects. They are so helpful. If you're a DIY guy with projects and toys for the weekend I'd get a truck. Otherwise the Runner is where it's at. The 4R also fits in the garage which is nice in NJ winters.

I'm trying to convince my "must have a 3-row SUV for our 2 kids" wife into driving my 4R and me getting a truck next after this asinine car market chills out.

 

[Blackwatch]

I ordered a 4Runner off-road today in lunar roach. Ordered the pro rims as well. In Canada it’s a little different. Has dual zone and MTM. Looking forward to a spring delivery. Now to order accessories!

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

I ordered a 4Runner off-road today in lunar roach. Ordered the pro rims as well. In Canada it’s a little different. Has dual zone and MTM. Looking forward to a spring delivery. Now to order accessories!

LUNAR ROACH!!!


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[2021nightshade4x4]

Such a tough call. I've had multiple trucks in the past and I sure do miss the practicality of them, especially now that the back seats are SO BIG in them. 2 car seats are easy peasy and the bed is there for Home Depot runs, lumber, deer, the ATV, everything. I went to a 4Runner and bought a 6x12 trailer. I really love my 4R more than any other SUV I've had, but I sure can't say I don't miss the pickup bed. I rebuilt my entire deck with it and tons of other projects. They are so helpful. If you're a DIY guy with projects and toys for the weekend I'd get a truck. Otherwise the Runner is where it's at. The 4R also fits in the garage which is nice in NJ winters.

I'm trying to convince my "must have a 3-row SUV for our 2 kids" wife into driving my 4R and me getting a truck next after this asinine car market chills out.

Fully support 3 row pickups, where’s the petition


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[2021nightshade4x4]

I test drove a 22 Tundra SR5 today. That just made this decision harder. Toyota did a great job with the new Tundra. A little wind noise from the A pillar but the truck is fast and develops power at low RPMs. It is big though. The edges of the hood seem to be flared up to block your view.
As I said earlier, longterm reliability is my main concern. I do see how the smaller size of the 4Runner works to it's advantage as an overall exploring vehicle.
The dealer did offer $600 off MSRP on a new 22 4Runner off-road. I am leaning towards ordering the 4Runner tomorrow

Might be a windshield gap thing. My windshield makes a complete seal and I don’t have any “open window” noise, but I do sense the turbulence you speak of around the A pillars. I wonder if it’s lack of soundproofing or the 1/4” gap around the windshield creating this sound.

You can either fill the remaining windshield gap with some 3M # 08693 to where it’s flush (if you’re an artist with making smooth beads, or know someone who is good), or buy some generic external gaskets and cut them to fit, and mock up something to test before laying down anything permanent.

Don’t get me wrong, this is THE QUIETEST vehicle I’ve owned. Even against a Range Rover with acoustic glass. I am just agreeing I can hear what you hear because everything in these vehicles is just CRYPT quiet.

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[Blackwatch]

Might be a windshield gap thing. My windshield makes a complete seal and I don’t have any “open window” noise, but I do sense the turbulence you speak of around the A pillars. I wonder if it’s lack of soundproofing or the 1/4” gap around the windshield creating this sound.

You can either fill the remaining windshield gap with some 3M # 08693 to where it’s flush (if you’re an artist with making smooth beads, or know someone who is good), or buy some generic external gaskets and cut them to fit, and mock up something to test before laying down anything permanent.

Don’t get me wrong, this is THE QUIETEST vehicle I’ve owned. Even against a Range Rover with acoustic glass. I am just agreeing I can hear what you hear because everything in these vehicles is just CRYPT quiet.

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I meant the 2022 tundra had wind noise.

 

[2021nightshade4x4]

I meant the 2022 tundra had wind noise.

Same same. Could be same root cause.


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[Blackwatch]

Tundra turbo issues

Well, I'm feeling a lot better about the decision to go with the 4Runner. I've been reading about a lot of problems with the turbos in the new Tundras. That has been my concern since last spring and with the rumoured 2.4 turbo 4Runner that is apparently coming.
The waste gate is sticking on them. Lots of people have said turbos aren't like they were 20 years ago. Well, I remember the TDi VWs having major waste gate valve issues requiring a new turbo.
I know Toyota has a good reputation and they don't want junk out there so they will try to fix this but the one big thing that makes the truck scary and different for so many old school Toyota owners was the turbo. They should have gotten this right.