255s Versus 285s: Facts Over Fashion

Wow whodathunk that tire size would get people sounding like a bunch of drunks at a republican convention.

""255s look re****ed on 4runners.""

Now if I GAFF what anyone else thought I would also take offense at this statement but I don't.
I personally like my 255's and think they look every bit as good as any other size, plus they fit my needs for use better.
Mostly road driving, bit of dirt, rocks, rainy wet conditions and some light snow.

Me thinks everyone needs to calm down and not get so bent about something so trivial.

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both tires have their place, both are functional, but unfortunately for the op he is miss-informed on some things/did not take them into account... for one like ripcord said the difference in availability of tires between a 255 and a 285... there are probably 4-5x as many 285s available as there are 255. also again as ripcord said drive skill has way more the play in this than the size of the tire, so do other things like lockers and the type of tire... also weight has a big factor in this as well, not all of our rigs weight the same, mine for one will easily tip the scales at over 5000lbs when i go out wheeling... if i where to be running 255s and i got into some thing other than hard packed rock and dirt id be fighting hard not to get stuck and sink down.

if you look at rally cars yeah they have skinny little pizza cutter tires for snow and ice stages, and wide tires for tarmac stages, and something in the middle for dirt stages... but then again you are talking about pro drivers and cars that are all pretty much set up in the same "basic" form... at that point its not so much the tire as the luck of the draw, and more importantly driver and co driver skill. and again they weigh next to nothing maybe 2800 lbs

i have wheeled every where from the beach to the rubicon, in all sorts of weather, from hot hot sun to cold and feet of snow. in my experience with multiple different vehicle, i have found that a wider tire does just fine, and in most cases in superior to a narrower tire. but i have never found a situation where a skinnier tire was hands down superior to wider tires.

but yeah be-careful about coming here and telling everyone that they are crazy and just ignorant of info and are all about looks. my father is of the same mindset, he constatly trashed me for wasting my money on such "wide" (lol yeah 285s are so wide), and then getting horible gas mpg with them... yet i look at all of his old pics from when he was into 4x4s and he had wide tires back then too -old ground hawgs like a 1500 series tire yeah... sure thats a little over kill especially on a old willys pickup but they did just fine and got him into so places i was amazed to see. last summer i took my father with me on a week long wheeling trip down in to lassen national forest in northern california, and he was amazed and how well i did with my 4runner and what i could do with it. -i was running my old 285 bighorns, that where at best at like 25% tread left and they went every where my buddies fj40 on 33-9.5s went and then some -and i was not lifted either at that time.

bottom line, i cant see a time or place where a 285 would suffer compaired to a 255 tire
 
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i have heard the expression "opinions are like :moon: everybody got one....apparently this dude is has 2 :moon: :moon:!!!!


I havent been on this forum very long however, i have lurked around checking out all the builds and other topics for about 3-4 years. i have also owned a few T4Rs myself, like many other members on here....cant remember if it was Ripcord or Bigfish that pointed out you had only been on this forum for a few months, so its apparent you dont fully understand your 4Runner and what works/fits/& looks the best are.....i bet u a runnin a Spacer Lift and street tires and just found out how much "real tires" cost and it pissed you off.....you may wanna trade your T4R in, on a JEEP....would suite you a lil better. Have a good day....:rockthrow:
 
.....If I hurt someone's feelings that gave bad advice or didn't do their homework and made a bad decision at least I'm not compromising safety, causing them to spend money they don't need to spend, or giving generally bad advice that might cause someone to unknowingly miss out on enjoying the hobby as they otherwise would if properly informed.


What is the safety compromise? I am no engineer, but I thought that a wider tire would offer a little more stability in cornering or off camber situations in a top heavy SUV.

If someone wants to run a 255 tire, certainly nothing wrong with that...but when I see a post like the OP, I start to wonder if that person feels like they really should have bought the 285s to begin with, and is now trying to justify the purchase to subside their buyers remorse.

Oh, and I can't post at customtacos because I have a 4runner :biggrin2:
 
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If I went from a downhill bike to a touring bike would that negate anything I said about helmets?
No, however downhill (full face) helmets are subject to a different standard than regular helmets, found here. They both have their benefits. Most people wouldn't want to wear a full face helmet riding across town and most people would not want to wear a touring helmet while downhilling. Then it becomes a matter of choice just like tires.

Another thing I would like to say that in the article you referenced from Expeditions West, a wide tire is classified as "a 33x12.50". In my tires (mickey thompson Baja MTZ) this size has a section width of 12.1 and a tread width of 9.7. My 285/75 has a section width of 11.3 and a tread width of 8.9. Therefore my tire is narrower than the tire in the article you present. Therefore I like to think I get the benefits of both worlds. Personally I've offroaded in all three widths (33x10.50, 285/75, and 33x12.50) and couldn't say i preferred one over the other as far as capabilities go.

What is the safety compromise? I am no engineer, but I thought that a wider tire would offer a little more stability in cornering or off camber situations in a top heavy SUV.
You are correct in this fact. It is even referenced in the article he refers to.
 
Wow...

When did this place turn into Pirate, I am surprised at how some of you have lashed out onto this guy

Yea he is very convinced 255's are the way to go, but didn't see him make any personal attacks, which some of you were very quick to go to.

Here I tell you what
THIS is what you can do, and that's all, we don't need any variation
-285/75/16
-Toytec Lift
-Deck plate

Anything more than that, and Jesus christ are you pushing the boudries

I thought his opening post and subsequent posts were offensive. The guy is brand new on the site and has taken it upon himself to try and get set up as some sort of expert, by bashing the people who disagree with him. He needs to settle down and stop trying to impress people, because he doesn't know how to do that. :D

Thing is, he's right, 255s are probably a better functional choice than 285s for most drivers. But everybody (including him) makes sacrifices for appearance over function, or values one function over another. We don't need to be demeaning in order to have a discussion, and fvcking noobs don't need to be talking down to anybody. If he's gonna be like that he can GTFO.
 
I've now decided what my next tire upgrade will be. I'm switching up to 255's on the front and 285's on the rear. Surely, I will then have a true all terrain vehicle and reap all the benefits of both sizes on the trails.... right??
 
If I hurt someone's feelings that gave bad advice or didn't do their homework and made a bad decision at least I'm not compromising safety, causing them to spend money they don't need to spend, or giving generally bad advice that might cause someone to unknowingly miss out on enjoying the hobby as they otherwise would if properly informed.
First of all no one in any situation is going to be safer with 255's thats just ridiculous! Dont start equating yourself to some type of prophet bringing the holy grail of 4runner knowledge to this forum. Not only have the points you made in this thread been made countless of previous times; but your claims are completely non factual and absurd! People running 285's, stock 265's, or any other tire size are not in any way "missing out on enjoying the hobby" or their 4runners!

Tires are tires regardless what they're on and the same rules apply. Are you insinuating tires on VWs adhere to a different order than 4Runners?
THIS entire idiotic thread is about the fact that TIRES are NOT just TIRES and that the same rules do not apply WOW really????
AND Yes tires on your hitler transportation box are completely different and irrelevant!
 
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Well, it's a good thing spectre6000 came around and disproved the entire tire industry, and for the most part the entire 4-wheeling community. To think for the last 30 years we have all been doing it wrong. And those stupid tire engineers, they all need to be fired, tall and skinny pizza cutters are the only thing that will work off-road.

Can anyone point me to the closest mall? I have a set of 35"x12.50" tires that are now useless. :(

Oh, and can some point me in the right direction to find a set of sticky compound 40"x5.5"x17" tires? I need them for my buddy's comp buggy.
 
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Wow whodathunk that tire size would get people sounding like a bunch of drunks at a republican convention.

""255s look re****ed on 4runners.""

Now if I GAFF what anyone else thought I would also take offense at this statement but I don't.
I personally like my 255's and think they look every bit as good as any other size, plus they fit my needs for use better.
Mostly road driving, bit of dirt, rocks, rainy wet conditions and some light snow.

Me thinks everyone needs to calm down and not get so bent about something so trivial.

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Yeah I personally like both size of tires. I think its a hard choice choosing either or.
 
I was completely sold on the 255's after reading that article years ago, however tire selection & availability in this size is limited.
Depending on vehicle stance / wheel offsets / fender flairs, I think they look good. I also think 285's look good too.
Of course I have zero experience with either (DD w / 265/75 so I'm just a bystander;-)
What cracks me up the most is how much arguing can happen over what: 1" width and 1/2" height difference on average??
Just because he has only been registered for 4 months doesn't mean he has no knowledge.
But just the same because he read a very convincing article doesn't crown him an expert either.
Let's get some more factual comments for the good of the argument of the tires, instead of the he insulted my opinion crying.
I know CYi5 has ran both, including 235 & 265. Who here has experience with them both on 'their' trucks, let's hear it. Not just a buddy had them and I went where he did.
 
You're right that I'm new to 4Runners in the last 6 months and was previously driving a VW.

Seriously, you’ve been driving a T4R less than 6 months and you’re on this forum giving lectures on what tires to buy? And you wonder why people find you annoying? So in these past 6 months of ownership, how many miles has your Runner traveled in 4WD? How many miles have you driven in mud, rocks, sand, or snow in your Runner?

MY point??? Simple !! Many people come here because they know there are folks on here who have a lot of knowledge gained the hard way, with skinned knuckles, broken parts and time spent on the end of a wench cable. Some of these individuals have been driving 4Runners for years and have thousands of off road miles in all sorts of crappy conditions. And while you would like to think of yourself as knowledgeable as these folks………… at this point…. you’re not.
 
There must have been at least 5 threads about 255's over the past week, and the OP has had a say in just about every one of them. I myself have even questioned whether or not I should have 255's. I think the OP is correct in what he says, but the dude has two threads dedicated to this information already. Holy shiz man, let it go. Thanks for your contribution, but we don't need you to shove it down our throats.
 
255's have discussion waves... I remember back when brian2sun, driffter33, etc had them, no one had a b!tchfest about 285's being worse.

Both brian and driffter had fun with their 255's, so much that they upgraded to 35"s :D

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255s look re****ed on 4runners. Yeah, 285s look a lot better and you're a damn liar if you say you have never cared about your truck's appearance.

You really just lowered yourself to his level there.

I personally, whenever I have enough money, am going with 255s and I don't think they look re****ed. I actually like the way they look better than the 285s. I also like Pirate4x4 also because the information over there is insane and there are tons of threads on everything. Does that make me a re****ed douche bag? There are more than a few high-horses running around this forum
 

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