3rd Gen 4Runner Buyer's Guide

This is a big help!!!!!

Hi guys! My names Mike I'm new here. I just started looking for a 3rd gen runner and this information has helped so much. I'll keep you guys posted on what I'm looking at and I'd appreciate any advise i'll get.

And I have to say I owe 4-Ripcord a beer already! I was just watching 4runner videos on youtube and saw a couple of his which lead my too this site. thanks for having an awesome rig Ripcord!

Cheers, Mike
 
No problem man, I looked through your whole build thread, very useful info.

I haven't found anything promising yet, there are a couple listed locally that I'm hoping to go see today. I was hoping to find a 5 speed with E-locker but finding just a 5 speed has proven to be hard enough. I really like 00runerltd's that he has for sale, just a little far away =(.
 
Thanks for all the info

this is a really great forum and I am glad to come accross such a generous & knowledgeable t4r community- thanks for all your help- this given me a great start
 
Hi all, first let me repeat after many users in this thread: Thank you! Great and informative thread.
Now my issue:
I bought 3rd Gen T4R. 2002 SR5 Sport Edition. The car is mint. Has 95K on it. All required service was done on 90K.
Runs great.
But... it's really bumpy, rough ride. I mean I feel every little bump, not to mention crack or pot hole on the road. I live in Brooklyn, NY and roads here are too far from good. I had passenger chevy van before and it was really soft and nice, wich I thought was normal. So going from one to another is a big difference.
Is that how Sport Package should run? I checked the shocks, they look ok. No leaks. And car bounces only 1-2 after pushing it... Tire pressure is ok too.
I don't know...
Please help, it looks like you know a lot about this car...
Thanks again.
 
Great thread. I am going to reference this in the future on my purchase. Thanks.
Welcome, how is the search going?


this is a really great forum and I am glad to come accross such a generous & knowledgeable t4r community- thanks for all your help- this given me a great start
It is indeed a nice forum. Welcome.


Hi all, first let me repeat after many users in this thread: Thank you! Great and informative thread.
Now my issue:
I bought 3rd Gen T4R. 2002 SR5 Sport Edition. The car is mint. Has 95K on it. All required service was done on 90K.
Runs great.
But... it's really bumpy, rough ride. I mean I feel every little bump, not to mention crack or pot hole on the road. I live in Brooklyn, NY and roads here are too far from good. I had passenger chevy van before and it was really soft and nice, wich I thought was normal. So going from one to another is a big difference.
Is that how Sport Package should run? I checked the shocks, they look ok. No leaks. And car bounces only 1-2 after pushing it... Tire pressure is ok too.
I don't know...
Please help, it looks like you know a lot about this car...
Thanks again.
Welcome.

You know, it's been so long since my '02 sport had stock suspension that I cannot remember how it felt. But, I can tell you for sure that it will ride a lot firmer than a passenger fan. My work has a little chevy astro cargo van and it rides like a cloud, kinda nice.

With the truck being as old as it is, the shocks are most likely pretty worn out. And I can almost guarantee that the rear springs are sagging..


If you are looking to replace the suspension, you have a few options..

If you plan to not lift it and just replace with OEM parts, I would recommend the Sonoran Steel 3.0 kit. It is brand new factory coils from a 1999 4runner ('99 coils are 1" taller than the other years). This kit also comes with brand new shocks made by the company that made the original shocks.
4 Wheel Drive - System 3 - $690.00 : Sonoran Steel, Sonoran Steel Custom Metal Fabrication L.L.C. Custom Toyota Truck Parts

If you plan to lift, I would look at the Lift FAQ sticky in the 3rd gen section. Also take a look at Toyteclifts.com and Sonoral steel.com.
 
Thank you, 4-Ripcord. It doesn't look like it's sagging yet.
I wasn't really looking to replace entire suspension or lift it.
I was thinking maybe I can get away with replacing just shocks and struts...
I guess, I'll have to do coils as well...
But it's a great and valueable info.
Thanks again.
 
If you are looking to replace the suspension, you have a few options..

If you plan to not lift it and just replace with OEM parts, I would recommend the Sonoran Steel 3.0 kit. It is brand new factory coils from a 1999 4runner ('99 coils are 1" taller than the other years). This kit also comes with brand new shocks made by the company that made the original shocks.
4 Wheel Drive - System 3 - $690.00 : Sonoran Steel, Sonoran Steel Custom Metal Fabrication L.L.C. Custom Toyota Truck Parts


This is what I did with my recently purchased 2002 2wd Sport Edition. It didn't ride "rough", I'd say it was more just too bouncy as if the shocks were tired or shot. Wanted a little bit of an aggressive look while I was at it and used it as an excuse to update all 4 corners. You can see the before/after in my thread here: http://www.toyota-4runner.org/3rd-gen-t4rs/100000-new-owner-first-mod.html

Thank you, 4-Ripcord. It doesn't look like it's sagging yet.
I wasn't really looking to replace entire suspension or lift it.
I was thinking maybe I can get away with replacing just shocks and struts...
I guess, I'll have to do coils as well...
But it's a great and valueable info.
Thanks again.

The 3.0 kit is worth looking into if you're willing to spend the money on updating everything anyway in my opinion. Otherwise just the tokico treckmaster shocks do a great job. Before and after is a world of difference in ride quality.
 
Wow....

You guy and gals seem to have a wonderful site here, as I've absorbed in the first 30 min. after registering. Keep up the good work, and I'll do my best to help. Suhweeeeta!
 
Fixin' ta get one ...... !!!

I'll cut to the chase, and say that I'm a foreign car lover after all the '85-ish Olds Delta 88 hand-me-downs I was fortunate enough to get from family when younger. Since I began electing to buy Datsuns, Acuras, and now own a Honda Accord as my daily workhorse driver, I've been VERY satisfied. Sister had a Camry some years ago that went 245K w/o much wrong with it.

Now looking to replace wife's Plymouth minivan which has been amazingly good for 3 family moves, but is dying as we speak, I'm thinking that an 'upgrade' is in order :)

I did my research, and zero'd in on the 4Runner as the appropriate family vehicle with outdoor capabilities, for reasons which everyone here already understands.
First find was a 2003 SR5 2wd, w/109k mi. Test drive was much better than expected, since I seem to hear A LOT about how rough the 4Runners tend to ride ("you feel every bump in the road"). Not true, at least for that one. It was smooth, responsive, and honestly as quiet as any luxury car I've ridden in. But alas, they screwed me on the sale price, because even with a crack running across 80% of the windshield, a crack in one of the rear tail light bezels, and a couple of broken interior cup/change/armrest flaps and lids, the deal totalled $15,000. After an online, cash price of $9995. They said that they would replace the windshield, as soon as it was sold. Red flags abound.

Taking another look around, I found what I'm really talking about here, which is fixin' to be my family's BABY, if all goes well in a couple of days, and it looks real good.... like 95%. Its a 2001 Limited, families' favorite color green, old-style dash (which I prefer), 100k mi., clean one-owner CARFAX with regular maintenance records, and no obvious damage whatsoever. Out-of-town dealer seems to respect my desire for the family car, and is holding it for me. Thinking that the final price of $12,350 including in-house financing charges and a $3500 down-payment (so 36 mos @ $237.50/mo after), was a bit high, further research shows Kelly Blue Book for this model with available trim and amenities to be values @ $12,418 and CARFAX advises to add $200 for its one-owner, mostly dealer servicing and maintenance records. If all goes well during the test drive, I'm thinking its gonna be a no-brainer. Besides that, its gonna be the wife's daily driver to nearby job, since I got the workhorse Accord which is good for what I do, and she loves the look and pics of it. Sunroof, tow package.....DAM*. Camping season is upon us! And with crash safety ratings high above most other SUV's, I get to be a smart Dad as well.

Other than climbing up under it, looking for leaks, checking for steering-veering etc, I was worried that the timing belt may not have been replaced yet. But after reading that these are "non-interference" engines, such that when and if the timing belt snaps, the free-moving engine parts @ high RPM's won't allow for definite damage, this means that its not such an extreme priority to get it replaced, but a wise thing nonetheless. Had timing belt "pop" in my Acura Integra on the highway @ 87 mph. Got lucky with that "interference engine", and had no internal damage at all. I know......but I didn't know then,......

So, here we go. I've always wanted a truck, the wife likes 'em, and while this isn't really a truck, it gets the job done, in more ways than one. Gotta love that! I'll post back in a couple of days.

Great forum, will be here no matter what, even if this one doesn't work out.
 
I've been reading...:ybrick: Can someone please advise me if my SR5 Sport 2002 has X-REAS as stock?

I couldn't find it in the online specs, but was told to look into it, since it's more difficult and expensive to replace.
 
I'll cut to the chase, and say that I'm a foreign car lover after all the '85-ish Olds Delta 88 hand-me-downs I was fortunate enough to get from family when younger. Since I began electing to buy Datsuns, Acuras, and now own a Honda Accord as my daily workhorse driver, I've been VERY satisfied. Sister had a Camry some years ago that went 245K w/o much wrong with it.

Now looking to replace wife's Plymouth minivan which has been amazingly good for 3 family moves, but is dying as we speak, I'm thinking that an 'upgrade' is in order :)

I did my research, and zero'd in on the 4Runner as the appropriate family vehicle with outdoor capabilities, for reasons which everyone here already understands.
First find was a 2003 SR5 2wd, w/109k mi. Test drive was much better than expected, since I seem to hear A LOT about how rough the 4Runners tend to ride ("you feel every bump in the road"). Not true, at least for that one. It was smooth, responsive, and honestly as quiet as any luxury car I've ridden in. But alas, they screwed me on the sale price, because even with a crack running across 80% of the windshield, a crack in one of the rear tail light bezels, and a couple of broken interior cup/change/armrest flaps and lids, the deal totalled $15,000. After an online, cash price of $9995. They said that they would replace the windshield, as soon as it was sold. Red flags abound.

Taking another look around, I found what I'm really talking about here, which is fixin' to be my family's BABY, if all goes well in a couple of days, and it looks real good.... like 95%. Its a 2001 Limited, families' favorite color green, old-style dash (which I prefer), 100k mi., clean one-owner CARFAX with regular maintenance records, and no obvious damage whatsoever. Out-of-town dealer seems to respect my desire for the family car, and is holding it for me. Thinking that the final price of $12,350 including in-house financing charges and a $3500 down-payment (so 36 mos @ $237.50/mo after), was a bit high, further research shows Kelly Blue Book for this model with available trim and amenities to be values @ $12,418 and CARFAX advises to add $200 for its one-owner, mostly dealer servicing and maintenance records. If all goes well during the test drive, I'm thinking its gonna be a no-brainer. Besides that, its gonna be the wife's daily driver to nearby job, since I got the workhorse Accord which is good for what I do, and she loves the look and pics of it. Sunroof, tow package.....DAM*. Camping season is upon us! And with crash safety ratings high above most other SUV's, I get to be a smart Dad as well.

Other than climbing up under it, looking for leaks, checking for steering-veering etc, I was worried that the timing belt may not have been replaced yet. But after reading that these are "non-interference" engines, such that when and if the timing belt snaps, the free-moving engine parts @ high RPM's won't allow for definite damage, this means that its not such an extreme priority to get it replaced, but a wise thing nonetheless. Had timing belt "pop" in my Acura Integra on the highway @ 87 mph. Got lucky with that "interference engine", and had no internal damage at all. I know......but I didn't know then,......

So, here we go. I've always wanted a truck, the wife likes 'em, and while this isn't really a truck, it gets the job done, in more ways than one. Gotta love that! I'll post back in a couple of days.

Great forum, will be here no matter what, even if this one doesn't work out.

That '01 seems nice, you should link the Ad to us if you can. Sounds like you have a bigger budget than most, which allows you to get a top of the line, mint condition limited. I would still try to get that price down though. I paid 13k for mine way back in 08' and it had 74K with all dealer maint.
 
That '01 seems nice, you should link the Ad to us if you can. Sounds like you have a bigger budget than most, which allows you to get a top of the line, mint condition limited. I would still try to get that price down though. I paid 13k for mine way back in 08' and it had 74K with all dealer maint.

"top of the line, mint condition limited".... I like that the sound of that 4-Ripcord. I was in fact budget-limited to an older model, aiming for no more than 8-9K, and was foolish to think I could get one for around 6K since they hold their value so well. Actually, I really do admire and love the 2001 design package over some others I've seen, especially the 2003 that I drove. I only wish that I had more $$$ to be able to get one that had 80K mi. or less like you did.

Funny....the family is all over me about the great job I did finding this one, but the truth is that I'm just lucky that no one else had bought it yet (though I did search over AutoTrader online for a few weeks, picking and choosing what I wanted/liked within 300 mi., then looked at 2 of them: 1 close, and 1 far, and the one close was sub-par as mentioned).

Sorry for the long post, but I'm still on a high from the great deal.

So, after verifying with the finance company that it was a "Simple interest loan", so that I could save money off the loan fee if I chose to pay off the loan early, I was 99.5% sure that I was gonna drive this auto home barring any unforeseen catastrophic problems, and took a Greyhound to get there. (didn't really want to bother anyone else with a 2-car drive, and possibly save gas $$$ for 2 cars as well). Dealer, Mid-Tex Auto in Austin was kind enough to hold it for me for a few days until I could get out there (and he had 3 more when I arrived, but I was focused on the Imperial Jade Green Mica/Thundercloud combo).

It was a 2001, 2WD Limited, and he had even recovered the front seat bottom upholstery because "You know how they get worn with people getting in and out of them like that, and I just didn't want to sell it like that." Then the only external body "flaws" that I could find, were an almost imperceptible tiny dent in the rear hatch, and a pea-sized spot of rust in-between the T and E of the "Limited" emblem on the rear hatch as well. Nothing else.

The test drive was FLAWLESS, unless you consider and accept as I did, that I might "feel every bump in the road", as other posters have experienced. But was that a deal breaker? (well, not like it would have been if one of the rear passenger seat cup holder "fingers" was broken off, which it was). Yeah, I'm REAL picky 'bout that sorta stuff. Fresh, strong engine, quick responsive throttle, smooth yet responsive transmission w/o any noticeable rough shifting, even in/out of O/D, no whine from power steering pump when making those BEAUTIFUL! tight circles, no wind noise, no fluid leaks (and all fluids looked closer to virgin than used, probably 'cuz he said he had his mechanic change 'em), no undercarriage rust, no loose window or body trim, no real floor stains (but it is 11.5 yrs old, so only a true A-HOLE would complain that it wasn't like virgin carpet. Suffice to say that the interior, and especially the dash, were very impressive.

All electrical amenities worked great as orig designed: all 5 power windows, moonroof, r/wiper, clock, etc...etc. All doors and hatches opened and closed w/o problem, and the "gentle" effort required to close them was one of the things I admired most, similar to my Accord. "Don't slam the doors, or you'll break the windows", as I tell my family. A/C is cold as SH**, runs great on AUTO, and stock 3-way stereo (AM/FM/6-CD/CASS) works fine (but I'm sure I'll upgrade the 20max watts and stock speakers its pushing now).

After the test drive, I was hooked. It had obviously been garaged most of its life as a 1-owner, and dealer serviced via CARFAX, with an original paint that didn't look a day over 2-3 yrs old at most. Amazing, really. No one had funked it up, or operated it while wearing a buncha rings or bracelets that would have scratched the SH** outta much of the dash trim and a lotta other spots. I digress.....

The Deal: Showed online at cash price of $7995, sold to me for $8645, and w/a $3500 down payment, left $5850 roughly to be financed after TTL fees, for mo. payments of @ $237.50, and I can handle that. I can cover 160 of it if I just quit smokin', which I need to anyway, since I promised my kids that I would, if our adopted German Shepherd survived the heartworm treatment (which she did). I had to accept the financing fee due to my absence of credit (which was good news to me, believe it or not, instead of BAD credit), so the final price was $9352.60 + financing fees, and I can pay it off early and save on the financing fees :D

My financing woes are irrelevant, so I got the car for $8645+TTL= $9352.60. CARFAX listed its value @ Blue Book value + $200 due to mileage, trim package, and wear, which by my calculations came out to $12,618 (Kelly Blue Book Retail value of $12,418). That's BEFORE, TTL, financing, or any additional fees, so I'm thinking that I got a pretty suhweeet deal. Hell, its no cream puff of a show car, but I wouldn't give it up for 3 grand over what I paid, and would have to think very seriously if the offer was 5. Everything happens for a reason.

As to previous complaints I've read about the model:

- We don't drink gazillion-ounce Big Gulps, so the cup holders seem to be just fine, and well-placed at that.

- It's not the BIGGEST of the auto cabins that I've been in, but I wasn't buying a Navigator, a King Ranch Edition truck, or anything of that nature. I was eagerly becoming one of "the growing group of value-conscious people who drive Toyotas." (from the Owner's Manual)

- You DO feel "every bump in the road", as others have lamented, including the extremely SMOOTH spots.... it just depends on what the driving surface is. I can't imagine how smooth it may have been in '01 when new, but its nowhere gone now. New shock upgrade on the horizon, maybe.....

- The armrests on the front doors are shot, or suck from the early days even, in a really bad way....there seems to be no padding at all under their covers. (another mod planned soon).

Wife and kids LOVE IT, and I have the satisfaction of knowing that our money is being well spent, into a major piece of machinery that's definitely going to be with us for a good while. Mission Accomplished. :cheers:
 
Hi Everyone!! I'm a new member and not a t4r owner yet, doing the legwork now for when I do purchase one in January. I'm pretty confused as to all the differences in the models and what would suit me best. I live down in San Antonio so snow and ice is rarely and issue, but the roads down here are a mess when it rains even a little bit(no one seems to understand how to handle rain at all). My plans right now for the truck are 90% pavement pounding as a daily driver and the other 10% will be going camping at state parks with maybe a little light wheeling. My plans right now include upgrading to 265/75/16 tires but probably not going to do a suspension lift unless/until the stock suspension is shot and even then I wouldn't go higher than 3" at a max as maintaining stock gas mileage would be a plus for the long camping trips and such. Any suggestions as to which model years/options would best suit me?
 
Do you care if its manual or auto? Would these rainy roads make you want all wheel drive? Do you like leather? Do you like the 99+ upgrades? Do you want traction control?
 
Hey there,

I'm in the market for a 4runner and the 3rd gen seems like the way to go. The 2nd gens are obviously cheaper, but the 3rd gens seem far superior and worth the extra money. I found this one just across the border in Bellingham, Wa. It's set up nicely with KM2 mud terrains, a 2.5" lift, and an aussie auto locker and is the 4 cyl, 5spd, 4x4. In terms of specifications, its exactly what I want. The only downside is the exterior of the truck. There's a dent in the drivers door and minor bumps and scratches throughout. The owner has tons of service records and it seems very well maintained to me. For the price, what do you guys think? Keep in mind that I am across the border in Canada, so for the exchange rate difference ($350) and importation fees ($200), I'll be paying an extra $500-600 on top of whatever deal we work out. This is definitely my #1 choice out of all the runners that I have viewed but I am no expert, so any advice would be much appreciated.

Brandon

Link to the ad and pictures 1998 Toyota 4Runner, w/ lift, locker and mud tires
 

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