3rd Gen FOA Mid-travel -- Interest Thread

For the record, my commute each morning consists solely of 50 mph whoops and 20 ft jumps.


That wouldn't be too far off driving the Red Mountain side of the 202 loop.......

I would be interested in the front coilovers, just waiting for more intel.
 
[MENTION=79826]absalom[/MENTION] I just got home from a couple day trip, and apparently your PM was the last one I could have and now despite deleting all of them I can't reply or send any--for explanation of no reply haha. Hopefully I can get that figured out soon, regardless do your questions still apply?

As far as FOAs, I'm running multiple of their products. In my opinion, shock manufacturers you get what you pay for but at some point it plateaus and the cost per quality/performance becomes very marginal. I don't have anything to back this idea up, but I've had zero performance issues with my FOAs though small little quality control issues--but I also paid $300 per shock versus $700 for a similar King. My FOA stuff--this is NOT what anyone is ordering, but for some reference.

10" travel 2.5 resi shocks, black anodized, viton seals, fine threaded body, etc. "all the options" (before they came out with the compression adjusters at least)

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Just got some 2.5 bumps in the other day too (yet to be installed). The 2.0 bumps are FOAs as well and have had zero issues and work great.

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I've also bought 3 sets of their Viper springs in various spring rates and lengths with no issues with them either. My biggest hang up is the "un-boxing". Which has no performance issue, but as everyone knows that's a big thing when opening new toys. They never have a receipt or any explanation or instructions or stickers. They are packaged fine and decently wrapped, but they are in a bland white box that just says FOA on the outside and that's it--for comparative reference my Eibachs (that cost $20 more than a comparative Viper spring) came in custom sized boxes (one per spring) that was labeled with Eibach and cool pictures all over it and had stickers in each box, etc. To each their own, this might matter to some people and others it won't--I don't really care a lot, but obviously you get what you pay for and you get better presentation and some quality control with other brands and that comes at a cost. Again, I have limited experience with other brands and a decent amount of usage and testing on my personal setup.
 
[MENTION=79826]absalom[/MENTION] I just got home from a couple day trip, and apparently your PM was the last one I could have and now despite deleting all of them I can't reply or send any--for explanation of no reply haha. Hopefully I can get that figured out soon, regardless do your questions still apply?

As far as FOAs, I'm running multiple of their products. In my opinion, shock manufacturers you get what you pay for but at some point it plateaus and the cost per quality/performance becomes very marginal. I don't have anything to back this idea up, but I've had zero performance issues with my FOAs though small little quality control issues--but I also paid $300 per shock versus $700 for a similar King. My FOA stuff--this is NOT what anyone is ordering, but for some reference.

10" travel 2.5 resi shocks, black anodized, viton seals, fine threaded body, etc. "all the options" (before they came out with the compression adjusters at least)

Just got some 2.5 bumps in the other day too (yet to be installed). The 2.0 bumps are FOAs as well and have had zero issues and work great.

I've also bought 3 sets of their Viper springs in various spring rates and lengths with no issues with them either. My biggest hang up is the "un-boxing". Which has no performance issue, but as everyone knows that's a big thing when opening new toys. They never have a receipt or any explanation or instructions or stickers. They are packaged fine and decently wrapped, but they are in a bland white box that just says FOA on the outside and that's it--for comparative reference my Eibachs (that cost $20 more than a comparative Viper spring) came in custom sized boxes (one per spring) that was labeled with Eibach and cool pictures all over it and had stickers in each box, etc. To each their own, this might matter to some people and others it won't--I don't really care a lot, but obviously you get what you pay for and you get better presentation and some quality control with other brands and that comes at a cost. Again, I have limited experience with other brands and a decent amount of usage and testing on my personal setup.
Sniv, thank you so much for your input. I'm so glad to hear your (mostly) positive experience with them. Every time I pull out of my driveway in my jarring 5100's, I count down the days until I can get my own FOAs! Do you recommend going for all the options?
 
Sniv, thank you so much for your input. I'm so glad to hear your (mostly) positive experience with them. Every time I pull out of my driveway in my jarring 5100's, I count down the days until I can get my own FOAs! Do you recommend going for all the options?

I can't give a very educated opinion, the only FOA setups I've ridden in both had all the options and were both LT trucks. I doubt it makes much difference, but I know my spring collars I can crank down by hand usually which I would attribute to the fine thread vs course (not sure of the pitch difference though)--which it's nice not to have to use a shock spanner. Black anodizing is obviously personal taste, I think it looks cleaner. Viton seals, no idea how much of a difference those make but I doubt most people would ever see any need for them (or even me for that matter). I think compression adjusters would be sweet, on the flip side it takes 20 minutes to revalve a shock versus the $100 per adjuster haha. I'm looking forward to seeing a bolt on setup and riding in one.
 
im interested, but im not seeing the details on what the end state will be as far as height and what else will be needed here going from stock.
was going to get a SS setup
 
FOA's shop is literally 2 minutes away from my house. If need be, they can use my 4runner for mockup. I'm kinda interested to see how their quality has improved over the years.
 
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I'm interested in a front setup with my camburg arms. And if the price is right, the rears with remote res, matched for my lc coils.
 
I'd like info on adding the air bump stops as.well. Looking to go airborne in mexico. Can't have stuff breaking down there. ����
 
I didnt reaLize there was a GB section. Personally I'd prefer it stay in the 3rd gen section since it is clearly marked as a 3rd gen thread.

About the setup .. Man I wish they would put at least the bare minimum into paint, decals etc. The bare bones made in my basement look only goes so far with a crowd.
 
i'm interested as well. just missed the icon gb. i want a completed setup, front and rear. 3" inch max? also want to see other specs as well.
completely rebuildable?
 
***All updates to OP are at the end of this post but ABOVE the interest list***


After having the chance to drive a 3rd gen 4runner equipped with 2.5" shocks/coilovers, I've lusted after a similar setup for my own 4runner ever since. If you hadn't had the opportunity yet, I highly suggest finding a member local to you with a similar setup, it's worth the effort. I was initially set on just going with the one industry giants, until a member of Pirate4x4 turned me on to F.O.A suspension systems.

What I'm proposing, if FOA agrees to our exact terms, is to have FOA create a complete bolt-on system utilizing 2.5" shock bodies for the front and rear of our trucks. To make this a complete setup, all you would need to add would be the shocks of your choice (OME, Land Cruiser, or ToyTec). The shocks would be valved specifically to our truck's. This would not be a generic shock simply stapled to our truck. The FOA rep, JD, assures me he has plenty of experience working with Toyotas and could make an amazing kit that would please a lot of members. At this point, FOA is completely on-board and excited for the project.

Proposed Kit Contents:
  • 2x 2.5" Front Adjustable coilovers with reservoirs and springs
  • 2x 2.5" Rear shocks with reservoirs
  • 2x Shock mount adapters for front
  • Guessing that approx cost would be $650-$800

Now, to pull this off, especially at a great deal, the more interest we have, the better! So read on to get an idea of what this could end up costing in the end. In order to achieve this, we would need:
  • Quantity of 10 to get Viton seals for hi-temp resistance
  • Quantity of 20 to get black anodizing

The math that inspired me to attempt this group buy:

2.5" Coilover w/ Resi $200/ each shock.

2.5" Reservoir Shock $160/ each shock.

Custom, laser-cut shock mounts for front - $100/ pair

Subtotal plus shipping, before group buy discount - $820. However, this doesn't take into account the R&D that would need to be performed to make this feasible. I would imagine a solo buyer would have to spend ~$1,000 for a similar setup when it's all said and done. FWIW, a similar setup, from one of the big 3 companies, would cost just over $2,000. It doesn't take a genius to realize the substantial savings! To have a fully functioning setup, all you'd really need to add, are rear springs!

A reminder, please keep this thread civil and positive. Any posts to the contrary may be subject to "pruning". Feel free to message me with any questions. Or, better yet, post in the thread for everyone to see!

Interest List

  1. Absalom
  2. UnderFire
  3. Wikano
  4. Jburt (rears only)
  5. RJsimeon
  6. Thor999
  7. Trialrun
  8. Kevro
  9. Libretto
  10. Tuxedo Runner
  11. sjwelna
  12. DanKendall6
  13. AZBub
  14. FlipStyle54 (rears only)
  15. technodrive
  16. turbo8
Interested in fronts only sign me up!
 
:pop2: Ill kick it here for more info. Definitely interested. 2" lift is what Im after.

My kidneys are starting to hurt, 168 on original suspension.
 
Interested in front setup only. What do the top mount adapters look like, are there any photos of these mounted?
 

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