4runner TRD Pro

[444]

I have had a deposit on a Inferno TRD Pro since Sept. I just found out at the beginning of Dec that it would be an additional 6-8 week wait. Just wondering what the Southeast region is. Im in TN and starting to get very impatient lol. Also curious about this cargo tray being standard? I really want one of those but I have no idea if mine will come with it as the vehicle status is still in production and the build sheet isn't available yet.

I ordered mine with the OEM running boards and the sliding cargo tray. My sales dude informed me that the ones being shipped to our area will NOT have the sliding cargo tray. He's trying to figure out how we can get one and add it on at the dealership.

As far as a "mandatory option" goes that doesn't make sense however ordering one with an option and not getting it doesn't make sense either.

 

[Bevo]

I ordered mine with the OEM running boards and the sliding cargo tray. My sales dude informed me that the ones being shipped to our area will NOT have the sliding cargo tray. He's trying to figure out how we can get one and add it on at the dealership.

As far as a "mandatory option" goes that doesn't make sense however ordering one with an option and not getting it doesn't make sense either.

I ordered mine without the tray, and it showed up with it. Sales guy said they couldn't get one without it. It seems like most have the tray so far.

 

[444]

I ordered mine without the tray, and it showed up with it. Sales guy said they couldn't get one without it. It seems like most have the tray so far.

Your thoughts on the tray- are you glad you have it now?

 

[Wizzard]

Unfortunately that is just how they do it for 4Rs sold in the 'Southeast' region. You either have to get the sliding tray or the 5th row. A few different dealers confirmed this.

To my understanding (not 100% sure) the Southeast region includes AL, FL, GA, SC,and NC.

 

[Bevo]

Your thoughts on the tray- are you glad you have it now?

Yes and no. I like the fact that it makes the cargo floor flat when you fold down the seats, and it makes a nice seat when it is pulled out. However you lose a considerable amount of vertical space in the cargo area. I haven't hauled much yet, so I cant speak to its intended utility.

 

[acas1229]

Black TRD Pro

I stopped by the Toyota Dealer yesterday to get the service done on my GF's Corolla. Guess what was hanging out in the show room? All-in-all the TRD Pro is pretty nice. I like the black on black look, obviously. Below is a list of my pros and cons: (IMOP)

Pro:
Exterior Styling - To me, it just looks meaner than my 4th Gen. The 'Toyota' emblem helps with the look too. However, the chrome '4Runner' emblem on the back ruins it for me (will have to be re-painted immediately.)

Ergonomics - Everything felt tighter, more functional, and easier to use.

Interior - More refined, I really like the black-leather with red stitching.

Storage - Definitely like the stealth storage compartment in the back behind the tray. Reminds me of the storage compartments in the old FJ's tailgate.

Suspension - Decent upgrade and I like the look of the red springs. More than enough for a person wanting the look with occasional off-road fun.

Tires - I have the same tires so I can't complain. Decent tire for minimal off-road use.

Ultimately, the TRD Pro definitely has an off-road feel requiring little modification for the occasional novice off-roader (IMOP). All the extra power-ports, storage compartments, and ergonomics will definitely come in handy and are a significant upgrade (stock vs. having to add it) to my 4th Gen.

Con:
Engine - Under-powered (IMOP). The V6 felt very sluggish to me. Coming from a V8, I really like the power and torque my 4th Gen has. Not that I am doing 100mph everywhere, but getting up to speed is really important with all the highway driving I do. It doesn't help with towing either. The Lexus GX460 has the V8 still so I am lost as to why it was dropped from the 5th Gen.

Transmission - Why does the Lexus GX460 have a 6-speed transmission and this one still has a 5-speed? Mechanically, they are the same SUV (Right?).

Running Boards - Not sure why running boards are not included. The Trail Edition has them. Granted I would probably add the N-Fab ones anyway.

Grab bar - I might have missed it, but from what I recall there are no grab bars/handles inside. I use mine all the time.

Price - This thing is expensive, $46K OTD. Compared against the Trail Edition, I definitely don't think the badges, suspension, wheels, and tires are worth the @ $4K price difference. I really like the wheels though so I guess I'll buy it; wait, never mind there just Mickey Thompson SideBiter II's.

Overall, while the TRD Pro has great looks (IMOP) and functionality, I feel it falls short on power, efficiency, and price. The 4Runner use to be an affordable off-road capable vehicle. I know what some of you might say about resale value, worth, and it lasting forever (My parents and I have 3 between us); but, I feel like I should be pushing $40K not $50K (pushing $50K we should at least get a turbo). Ultimately, I will be passing on the TRD Pro. While it is beautiful and I'll certainly be envious of them on the road, I feel it best to hold out for the 6th Gen. With that said, I am really looking forward to what Toyota does with the 2016 Tacoma. Hopefully, it'll be a hint of things to come for the 4Runner. Plus, I doubt Toyota will drop the TRD Pro line before then.

 

[4RunninHog]

At the dealer getting my oil changed and I spotted her

Notice the new running board which I like a lot the obvious TRD wheels and toyota across the front

Really like the new shift knob

Black leather with red stitching looks really nice

Also note the suspension and skid plate

 

[4RunnerTRDPRO]

Spotted this in TN. Wait that's mine!

 

[Ridin4Runner]

Your thoughts on the tray- are you glad you have it now?

I love my tray, use it almost daily. So much easier on my back! :thumb:

 

[drsus]

I stopped by the Toyota Dealer yesterday to get the service done on my GF's Corolla. Guess what was hanging out in the show room? All-in-all the TRD Pro is pretty nice. I like the black on black look, obviously. Below is a list of my pros and cons: (IMOP)



Pro:

Exterior Styling - To me, it just looks meaner than my 4th Gen. The 'Toyota' emblem helps with the look too. However, the chrome '4Runner' emblem on the back ruins it for me (will have to be re-painted immediately.)



Ergonomics - Everything felt tighter, more functional, and easier to use.



Interior - More refined, I really like the black-leather with red stitching.



Storage - Definitely like the stealth storage compartment in the back behind the tray. Reminds me of the storage compartments in the old FJ's tailgate.



Suspension - Decent upgrade and I like the look of the red springs. More than enough for a person wanting the look with occasional off-road fun.



Tires - I have the same tires so I can't complain. Decent tire for minimal off-road use.



Ultimately, the TRD Pro definitely has an off-road feel requiring little modification for the occasional novice off-roader (IMOP). All the extra power-ports, storage compartments, and ergonomics will definitely come in handy and are a significant upgrade (stock vs. having to add it) to my 4th Gen.



Con:

Engine - Under-powered (IMOP). The V6 felt very sluggish to me. Coming from a V8, I really like the power and torque my 4th Gen has. Not that I am doing 100mph everywhere, but getting up to speed is really important with all the highway driving I do. It doesn't help with towing either. The Lexus GX460 has the V8 still so I am lost as to why it was dropped from the 5th Gen.



Transmission - Why does the Lexus GX460 have a 6-speed transmission and this one still has a 5-speed? Mechanically, they are the same SUV (Right?).



Running Boards - Not sure why running boards are not included. The Trail Edition has them. Granted I would probably add the N-Fab ones anyway.



Grab bar - I might have missed it, but from what I recall there are no grab bars/handles inside. I use mine all the time.



Price - This thing is expensive, $46K OTD. Compared against the Trail Edition, I definitely don't think the badges, suspension, wheels, and tires are worth the @ $4K price difference. I really like the wheels though so I guess I'll buy it; wait, never mind there just Mickey Thompson SideBiter II's.



Overall, while the TRD Pro has great looks (IMOP) and functionality, I feel it falls short on power, efficiency, and price. The 4Runner use to be an affordable off-road capable vehicle. I know what some of you might say about resale value, worth, and it lasting forever (My parents and I have 3 between us); but, I feel like I should be pushing $40K not $50K (pushing $50K we should at least get a turbo). Ultimately, I will be passing on the TRD Pro. While it is beautiful and I'll certainly be envious of them on the road, I feel it best to hold out for the 6th Gen. With that said, I am really looking forward to what Toyota does with the 2016 Tacoma. Hopefully, it'll be a hint of things to come for the 4Runner. Plus, I doubt Toyota will drop the TRD Pro line before then.

Nice review. I agree with most of it but I also, of course, happen to disagree on a few things but most of them due to the fact that a lot of this was subjective anyway AND that I own a TRD pro, which means I'm biased and I didn't see the cons the same way, right ?

For example: running boards.., first thing that gets destroyed when you actually off road .

Price: that's why I negotiated mine down below even the premium trail msrp price .

Theres a good grab bar on the a pillar .

Transmission.. Yes, but the Lexus Gx is also a butt load more money so I'm sure cost had everything to do with that, as it does every time. I would love a 6 speed though... Just not that price point product.


The engine does feel a bit underpowered to me, as it did when I had my tacoma (same basic engine) but kind of the power I expect out of this sort of SUV.

Two things I don't expect when I buy this type of truck.. Good MPG or good freeway horsepower. But it would be nice for sure.


Is it worth the extra price over the trail? Subjective.
The price of wheels suspension and to some extend exclusivity (or resale value if you prefer) is worth it to ... Everyone that bought one. I personally was going to buy a trail, but was going order it without kdds, slidding tray or sunroof (if possible) and upgrade the suspension... Then the TRD appeared AND it looked great.

Does this truck make sense over a trail? Only if it fits your needs. The reality is that if everyone here bought with just their checkbook we'd all have SR5 and do all the upgrades with aftermarket stuff and come out ahead... But some of us put value on the little things that manufacturer add from model to model. Plus these special models can offer a great resale value down the road, which off sets some of the initial price... If you actually paid that much more over the other models. If you didn't, then your that much more ahead right?

 

[1engineer]

I stopped by the Toyota Dealer yesterday to get the service done on my GF's Corolla. Guess what was hanging out in the show room? All-in-all the TRD Pro is pretty nice. I like the black on black look, obviously. Below is a list of my pros and cons: (IMOP)



Price - This thing is expensive, $46K OTD. Compared against the Trail Edition, I definitely don't think the badges, suspension, wheels, and tires are worth the @ $4K price difference. I really like the wheels though so I guess I'll buy it; wait, never mind there just Mickey Thompson SideBiter II's.

Overall, while the TRD Pro has great looks (IMOP) and functionality, I feel it falls short on power, efficiency, and price. The 4Runner use to be an affordable off-road capable vehicle. I know what some of you might say about resale value, worth, and it lasting forever (My parents and I have 3 between us); but, I feel like I should be pushing $40K not $50K (pushing $50K we should at least get a turbo). Ultimately, I will be passing on the TRD Pro. While it is beautiful and I'll certainly be envious of them on the road, I feel it best to hold out for the 6th Gen. With that said, I am really looking forward to what Toyota does with the 2016 Tacoma. Hopefully, it'll be a hint of things to come for the 4Runner. Plus, I doubt Toyota will drop the TRD Pro line before then.

Dude. Your EIGHT YEAR OLD 4RUNNER stickered for $38K and change back in the day and you are complaining about price? 2007 Toyota 4Runner Reviews, Pictures and Prices | U.S. News Best Cars
The AVERAGE cost for a comparable SUV is $45K. JGC, Ford Explorer, Pathfinder, etc and those are crossovers! Jump up to the BOF SUV's (Tahoe, Expedition, etc) and the average is around $55K! Jump again to the luxury BOF SUV's and you tip the scales at $65K. What rock have you been living under? The rest of your comments are fine and expected from a 4th gen owner but price is a tangible piece of real data and to get a 4WD 4Runner that ranges from about $35K to $45K is actually lower than the competition.

 

[rgrinny17]

Dude. Your EIGHT YEAR OLD 4RUNNER stickered for $38K and change back in the day and you are complaining about price? 2007 Toyota 4Runner Reviews, Pictures and Prices | U.S. News Best Cars
The AVERAGE cost for a comparable SUV is $45K. JGC, Ford Explorer, Pathfinder, etc and those are crossovers! Jump up to the BOF SUV's (Tahoe, Expedition, etc) and the average is around $55K! Jump again to the luxury BOF SUV's and you tip the scales at $65K. What rock have you been living under? The rest of your comments are fine and expected from a 4th gen owner but price is a tangible piece of real data and to get a 4WD 4Runner that ranges from about $35K to $45K is actually lower than the competition.

This is a great point. I was looking for a vehicle over 6000 GVWR and was hard pressed to find anything close to what the TRD Pro offers for under $50k. Not to mention the reliability/resale value over its competition.

 

[T.Rock]

....Plus these special models can offer a great resale value down the road, which off sets some of the initial price...

If Toyota softens the next generation (you know, goes away from BOF and live axle rear), then I think the TRDPro will really hold it's value very well. On the other hand, if the next generation 4Runner continues with the same or even better offroad ability, the TRDPro models probably wont' hold their value any better than your basic SR5.

Look at the 2009 Trail Edition. It was the last year of the 4th gen and it was a special edition that was available for that one year only and it came with a rear locker. In fact, it's still unique today because it had the a lockable center diff and the rear locker, which is something that you still can't get from Toyota, even today. But these '09 Trails turned out to be just another 4th gen, simply because the 5th gen wasn't a "softened" version of the 4Runner.

 

[drsus]

If Toyota softens the next generation (you know, goes away from BOF and live axle rear), then I think the TRDPro will really hold it's value very well. On the other hand, if the next generation 4Runner continues with the same or even better offroad ability, the TRDPro models probably wont' hold their value any better than your basic SR5.



Look at the 2009 Trail Edition. It was the last year of the 4th gen and it was a special edition that was available for that one year only and it came with a rear locker. In fact, it's still unique today because it had the a lockable center diff and the rear locker, which is something that you still can't get from Toyota, even today. But these '09 Trails turned out to be just another 4th gen, simply because the 5th gen wasn't a "softened" version of the 4Runner.

Well as I said in the exact quote you put up of my reply... These special editions CAN have better resale value. not they DO have better resale value.
Although I'm on the side of the TRD having better odds of it. unlike most models in the past, this was a very limited run model with unique look and parts, but only time will tell.

 

[TRDPRO]

Can we move on?

Took a few days off from the forum and there is still debate on the the TRDP resale Value??? Come on lets give it a freakin break. If you have a SR5 or a TE, god bless you and I hope you enjoy it as much as I do my TRDP and I promise I wont get on your threads and try to make assumptions on how you feel about your Toyota purchase.

Reality is that an 1" or .5" delta between a pre-production model doesn't make a difference with most guys (Pun intended) and I can tell you my dealer would have been perfectly ok if I decided to not take delivery if I felt "Lied to" by Toyota. As for the resale value neither I or you have a crystal ball and if we did we wouldn't be spending time on this forum debating about it.

Cheers!

 

[govnajedi]

Dude. Your EIGHT YEAR OLD 4RUNNER stickered for $38K and change back in the day and you are complaining about price? 2007 Toyota 4Runner Reviews, Pictures and Prices | U.S. News Best Cars
The AVERAGE cost for a comparable SUV is $45K. JGC, Ford Explorer, Pathfinder, etc and those are crossovers! Jump up to the BOF SUV's (Tahoe, Expedition, etc) and the average is around $55K! Jump again to the luxury BOF SUV's and you tip the scales at $65K. What rock have you been living under? The rest of your comments are fine and expected from a 4th gen owner but price is a tangible piece of real data and to get a 4WD 4Runner that ranges from about $35K to $45K is actually lower than the competition.

V8 in the T4R in 2016. Bye bye TRD Pro.... Don't you have Google? lol

 

[444]

Hey gang,

I've busted my ass like many of you my whole life. I'm finally getting to the point in my life when I just really want to enjoy a vehicle & have fun with it. That's the point of getting any of the 4Runners esp. the TEP and the TRD Pro. Of course, be sensible with your money- it's not like any of us are buying a 60,000+ Range Rover or the ridiculously overpriced GC Summit ($55,000). Both of those vehicles are in the shop more than on the trail for sure!

They look nice but as the old biker saying goes "chrome don't get you home!"

Reliability is huge! I don't have time to keep taking my vehicles to the shop. Another saying you may have heard of is "time is money".

Peace.

 

[9lb taco]

V8 in the T4R in 2016. Bye bye TRD Pro.... Don't you have Google? lol

hopefully the future owners of the redesigned t4r won't have people like you coming in their threads & sh*tting all over what they purchased, with their hard-earned money, for no apparent reason.

hopefully.

then again, maybe it won't have a sunroof. in which case we're sure to see you crying about how you don't want to buy one all over again.

 

[TRDPRO]

V8 in the T4R in 2016. Bye bye TRD Pro.... Don't you have Google? lol

Thanks for the tip!


I just Googled “Jealous Trolls in Illinois” and its true! They exist!

 

[3wbdriver]

V8 in the T4R in 2016. Bye bye TRD Pro.... Don't you have Google? lol

Really? The few very vague and poorly worded articles I could find on the 2016 stated that the V-8 was a possibility. Hell, one of them claimed it would be a FWD (that would be Front Wheel Drive for you, so you won't have to ask).

However, V8 for new Toyota 4Runner is not confirmed yet. Some say this is experiment from Japanese carmaker. Vehicle is offered with front or all wheel drive and power is distributed through 5-speed auto gearbox.

2016 Toyota 4Runner - Limited, Diesel, Changes, Redesign, v8

This one sounds more reasonable, but is still poorly written and vague.

2016 Toyota 4Runner Redesign - The Best New Cars

I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt your first few days here. Then when I saw how you operated bouncing from one topic to another without waiting for answers I just put you in ignore mode. But over the last 2 days you have truly become the troll everybody thought you were. Whether out of self defense over your ignorance or vindictiveness for being called out I don't know. And I don't really care. You have just joined Ghostnote in my permanent ignore list. Have a Merry Christmas.

PS: I bet you're a liberal too aren't you?