4runner TRD Pro
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That's very surprising to me that they took care of you like that. As high as the demand is for these things, the dealers can pretty much make their own rules it seems. I just purchased a 2017 Pro in barcelona red metallic, and I had to twist their arm to get anywhere close to what my trade in was worth (2015 Tacoma double cab TRD sport with 17,000 miles).
I was lucky enough to sort of "fall into" a pro... I wanted an Off Road Premium (ORP) with no sunroof or KDSS, and they couldn't get one allocated, but they did have a pro coming that hadn't been spoken for, so I threw my hat in the ring and waited for it to come in. If I didn't like it, no harm no foul, and I could keep waiting for what I wanted. Realizing that there probably won't be any ORPs made without a sunroof this late in production (if ever), I went with the pro and I'm very pleased. I will post pictures in an introduction, once I reach the coveted 15th post... :thumb3:
EDIT: My dislike of the sunroof stems from the 1996 FZJ80 Landcruiser I had (with a sunroof). They're not something I ever really use, and they inevitably start to leak after a decade or so it seems. It's a completely unnecessary failure point, in my opinion. I had to close my 80's sunroof to just the right spot to keep it from leaking, and then someone always seemed to hop in and say "oh you have a sunroof, cool!" and open it... by the way, finding that "right spot" took a few days of trial and error every time someone did this. Moisture and mold can be a problem in Washington. Back to the 4runner, I feel like where the 80 series Landcruiser left off, the current 4runners have picked up, in that they're a rugged, capable SUV but still feature some essential creature comforts on the inside. The newer Landcruisers are land yachts and not something I could see myself paying for without a 20 year loan. I'm very happy to be back in a real SUV, my Tacoma wasn't doing it for me. Just like when a person gets used to owning a truck, I got used to owning an SUV and missed it.
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Slavicwonder
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What did they give you for your trade compared to what kbb or edmunds says it it worth? I'm about to go through that myself. I just got the call that my Pro will be at the dealer between May 10th and 15th. It is going to be here faster than I thought. I was trying to time the selling of my 2008 Tacoma when I thought it was about a month out, but they surprised me with the call yesterday that it will be in sooner than I thought. So now I'm worried they will low ball me on my trade. Not sure I want to go through selling it myself, but also don't want to get low balled.
I countered with a figure higher than I wanted. They offered me $26,000 and I said I wanted $30,000... we arrived at $28,000. This was about $500 below what KBB and similar sites said my trade in was worth. My truck was particularly desirable, being a 2015. It had the Entune premium audio package with nav that had just come out, so it was sort of a segue year. Also, part of what I discovered was that they'll use these sites and quote your vehicle in "fair" condition instead of "good" or whatever category it falls into. My truck was basically brand new and they were trying to call it "fair", which was bullshit.
My advice to you would be to honestly appraise your vehicle using KBB and as many other resources that you can find, and print those quotes out to show them. The more sources with similar figures, the better your argument will be. Also, try to take advantage of a car buying service if it isn't too late (Costco, USAA, etc). I used USAA, and got a "coupon" that guaranteed me no more than $250 over MSRP, which I didn't need because they gave me MSRP.
It's a unique situation, because I don't think they care if you buy the vehicle or not, they probably have a waiting list at least 5 people deep. When my pro came in, it automatically popped up on the dealer's website, and people were calling from all over the US trying to buy it...
My advice to you would be to honestly appraise your vehicle using KBB and as many other resources that you can find, and print those quotes out to show them. The more sources with similar figures, the better your argument will be. Also, try to take advantage of a car buying service if it isn't too late (Costco, USAA, etc). I used USAA, and got a "coupon" that guaranteed me no more than $250 over MSRP, which I didn't need because they gave me MSRP.
It's a unique situation, because I don't think they care if you buy the vehicle or not, they probably have a waiting list at least 5 people deep. When my pro came in, it automatically popped up on the dealer's website, and people were calling from all over the US trying to buy it...
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Also, don't rule out getting appraisals from competing dealers on your truck. I played that card while I was still negotiating for an Off Road Premium. There was a dealer about 45 minutes away that I was talking with, as well as one 5 minutes away from my place. I very much preferred the one nearby, but used the offer from the far one as leverage. Once they agreed to $28k, I simply held them to it.
What dealer did you trade your Tacoma in to I am looking for one.
Titus Will Toyota in Tacoma, traded it on April 14th. Might still be there, I might be able to look later today, have to pick up my girlfriend's Prius.
I agree the dealers feel empowered. When I picked mine up yesterday they played the game of salesman to the great OZ behind the curtain sales manager. I finally told the sales guy to bring the manager over. That prompted my displeasure for the power play of having more demand than supply and a caution that it won't always be that way. I traded in a 15 GMC Denali diesel and they tried to play me on kbb vs nada. They reminded me that they had plenty of people to buy the vehicle...I think Toyota corp needs to hear about these tactics...but maybe they support it!
I had a few issues with the dealer I bought my '15 Tacoma from, to the point where I contacted Toyota Corp USA and filed a formal complaint. They worked to resolve the issue, but were unsuccessful overall. Solved some issues, but not all. I think they're far too big of a company to be able to reach that many levels down to address an issue. The fact that many dealers are selling these things for well over MSRP would be an example of something they probably don't want happening, but don't have the visibility on to be able to stop it from happening.
Right Toyota in Scottsdale....told me my allocation went to the "manager" and come to find out they sold it for 5k over retail this week. i started talking to them in Oct before they had a clue they were getting Cement in the 4runner. Unfortunately a stereotypical experience there, go thing I didn't trust them from the beginning
tank40
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There is no loyalty in the car biz. You have to lookout for yourself and find the best deal possible for you!
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KWolff
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Honestly until the paperwork is signed and you're behind the wheel driving away I would not consider the deal done.
I had been done dirty by two dealers already within the last year trying to get the TRD Pro 4Runner. Also remember when they run a hard credit check it brings your FICO down so if you're someone like me who spends months shopping for the right deal it can really screw you over in financing.
My point is watch out for these two things:
1. Interest free loans for dealers taking on deposits on incoming inventory they cant or wont guarantee.
2. Dealers that tell you MSRP or invoice pricing is good till AFTER they run your credit and have you sitting in the dealership then all of a sudden "Our guy made a mistake in the ad, or general manger says we have to charge over MSRP and our sales guy made a mistake". AKA "Bait and switch"
Remember you as a consumer can report this to your Attorney General or DA's office in your county/state. Also Yelp/BBB etc...
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dekeman
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For y'all's amusement....
Review: 2017 4Runner TRD Pro
Review: 2017 4Runner TRD Pro
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KWolff
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Great informative article! I got to say I did not know the Canadian TRD Pro did NOT come with the KDSS. I had been lusting after a Canadian one since they did come with moonroof and other options the USA ones did not come with.
Az4runnin
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If there is a Place Sunroofs come in handy its Canada...How come they get the Love
out:I just got mine yesterday and also came from a 2500hd duramax that I had 22's on. Rode pretty still w the 2" level on it. Not missing it so far!
jacksparrow
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TRD PRO in California
New 2017 Toyota 4Runner 4139745 For Sale | Hanford, near Fresno, Tulare, Selma, & Visalia, CA
MSRP in CA is pretty rare. Hope a forum member snatches it up.
New 2017 Toyota 4Runner 4139745 For Sale | Hanford, near Fresno, Tulare, Selma, & Visalia, CA
MSRP in CA is pretty rare. Hope a forum member snatches it up.
willie2323
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Honestly, pretty rare everywhere unless the dealership has had his head in the sand which of course they haven't or they would not be in business.
This dealer does not sell for msrp... at least not on the previous ones I've called on.
