4th gen dual battery tray??

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I've searched high and low to no avail. Everything I've found has been for a 3rd or 5th gen. Anyone know of a dual battery tray to replace the stock one?

Thanks!
 
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I did this write up a while ago... it might help
Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum - View Single Post - Questions: Dual Bat setup and Power Distribution block from Shrock

I used the Dirty Parts tray (says FJ Cruiser but it works just the same). It did not replace the tray in the stock location which can hold 2 if that is what you were asking about.

I've been thinking of removing this setup and selling the entire thing here, but I haven't got around to it yet. I am making a lithium setup which will be installed inside the cab.
 
Nice setup! Thanks. I'm really hoping to find a dual tray for the existing battery location to maximize space utilization and lower cost of cabling.

I did this write up a while ago... it might help
Toyota 4Runner Forum - Largest 4Runner Forum - View Single Post - Questions: Dual Bat setup and Power Distribution block from Shrock

I used the Dirty Parts tray (says FJ Cruiser but it works just the same). It did not replace the tray in the stock location which can hold 2 if that is what you were asking about.

I've been thinking of removing this setup and selling the entire thing here, but I haven't got around to it yet. I am making a lithium setup which will be installed inside the cab.
 
Nice setup! Thanks. I'm really hoping to find a dual tray for the existing battery location to maximize space utilization and lower cost of cabling.

You ever consider just making something a little more custom?

Making a DIY tray and two smaller batteries is anther option to consider.

Nothing stops you from using a smaller battery and a DC-DC charger which is far easier to mount.

This is a nice option not a lot of people know about. Perfect for smaller fridge projects.
West Mountain Radio - Super PWRgate PG40S
Odyssey PC680 Battery
https://www.amazon.com/Odyssey-Batt...&qid=1563488814&s=gateway&sr=8-28-spons&psc=1
You can also consider using cheaper and smaller APC batteries which are designed for a UPS.

Uses alternator when the car is running.
Charges 2nd battery when car is running with 10a charger.
Switches over to 2nd when car is not running.
 
I've searched high and low to no avail. Everything I've found has been for a 3rd or 5th gen. Anyone know of a dual battery tray to replace the stock one?

Thanks!

Call Matt @ Off Grid Engineering in Longmont. He is extremely knowledgable and can walk you thru your options. I did the second battery on the passenger side and it turned out great.
 
If space maximization is your biggest concerning then the front right corner can fit a Group 34 with relocation of the power steering reservoir.

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Do you have any other pictures of how you relocated your reservoir and mounted the battery? This is nearly exactly what I would like to do.

I spent some time the other night unbolting things and moving them around in preparation for a second battery and mounting my ARB compressor, so I am very curious to see more details in what you have going on.

I just followed you on instagram, I'm @garagegremlin

Thanks!
 
I'm in the process of getting a Prado dual battery tray from Piranha Offroad in Australia. It locates the second battery behind the passenger side headlight. I'll let you know how it works out.
 
I guess it also depends on v6 vs v8.

If v8 here's how I did arb twin compressor up front with second battery (heavier of the two things) at the stronger part of the inner fender.

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I guess it also depends on v6 vs v8.

If v8 here's how I did arb twin compressor up front with second battery (heavier of the two things) at the stronger part of the inner fender.

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How was mounting the extra battery tray? It looks like Off-Grid Engineering's.
 
How was mounting the extra battery tray? It looks like Off-Grid Engineering's.

Yes it is OGE. It was very easy. The parts were nice fit well. It was expensive but I suppose worth it for what you get. Haven't had to worry about it at all since install many miles ago.
 
[MENTION=83198]shmabs[/MENTION] I started with the Shrockworks dual battery kit.
Dual Battery Kit for 2010-2014 FJ Cruiser and 5th Generation 4Runner

I liked that it had the bracket for the power steering reservoir built in. Even though it was designed for an Optima battery, I figured I could cut the end off and let the larger Odyssey battery extend a little passed.

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Problem with this setup is the reservoir ends up rubbing against the upper radiator hose.
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To get around this, I had the bracket cut from the battery plate and a small L-shaped piece of metal welded to it and then attached to the fender well further back to avoid the rubbing.

You could just trim/modify the existing bracket so it sits further back like I did and go with a different battery plate. I also had the seams along the fender well tack welded to reinforce it for the extra weight. I had read where sometimes this area would separate with the additional weight and bouncing when offload.

I plan to mount my arb compressor in the spot behind the battery. The opposite of [MENTION=117708]blackoutt[/MENTION] 's setup
 
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Here is the Prado tray kit I got from Australia. It includes the ps reservoir relocation bracket and hardware needed to install behind the headlight.
I think I'll give it another coat of something, the zinc plating is decent, but probably not good enough for PA winter road salt.
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Thanks!

Thanks to everyone who replied. I decided to go with Off Grid's extra battery tray since they were local to me and it looked like the least amount of changes as well as I'm running an Odyssey Extreme for my starting battery. I'll update the post when I'm finished.
 
Finished up today, well almost. Still waiting on a Deutsch DTM 6Pin DTM06-6S DTM04-6P for the ML-ACR so it's completely clean. I had to do a little modification for the Shrockworks tray and upped the rivets to 5/32 to compensate for the loss of the stock battery tray "pins" to body holds (see photo).

List of materials:
1/0 15FT red/black Windy Nation wire
Blue Sea ML-ACR (500A) – Isolator
(2) Blue Sea Systems 187 Series, 285 Series & Klixon Circuit Breakers
Blue Sea Systems Common BusBars (100A-250A)
Blue Sea Systems MEGA/AMG Safety Fuse Block
Bussmann AMG-300 AMG High-Current Stud Mount Fuse - 300 Amp Rating
UFORCE 1/0 AWG Wire Lugs 3/8 & 5/16
SELTERM UL Listed Heavy Duty Wire Lugs 3/8 (5)
Off-Grid Dual battery tray
OGE Plug-and-Play Wiring Harness for Blue Sea Systems ML-ACR
Shrockworks Battery tray
Odyssey Extreme 34R-PC1500T
Ampper Military Spec Battery Terminal, Top Post
Deutsch DTM 6Pin DTM06-6S DTM04-6P
Young4us 2 Pack 3/4'' Heat Shrink Tube 3:1 Adhesive-Lined

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Yes it is OGE. It was very easy. The parts were nice fit well. It was expensive but I suppose worth it for what you get. Haven't had to worry about it at all since install many miles ago.

Nice - all electronics still behaving nicely? Leaning at diving into it, after a few years of drooling over a dual optima setup. Not having the milliseconds/seconds of self-doubt if I have a dead battery camping that I charged my spare in the trunk, and can locate the jumper cables, would be worth it alone :couch2:.
 

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