4th Gen Light Bars for LED Bars or Round Lights - NM

[wnelax04sr5]

have any more pictures of style A?

 

[MojaveMadMan]

have any more pictures of style A?

What kind of pics are you specifically looking for? There isn't a lot to show because it's stealthy and behind the grill. I tried taking pics of the mounts in the truck but it's hard.

 

[momo.75]

Would it be hard to modify the brackets to just come straight out instead of coming out and up. I had some lights mounted on the front a while back but there was a lot of vibration so i removed them. That was just because of the cheap way i had made the brackets. You can see what i am talking about in post #10

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/103120-pilot-floating-bumper-lights.html

 

[MojaveMadMan]

Would it be hard to modify the brackets to just come straight out instead of coming out and up. I had some lights mounted on the front a while back but there was a lot of vibration so i removed them. That was just because of the cheap way i had made the brackets. You can see what i am talking about in post #10

http://www.toyota-4runner.org/4th-gen-t4rs/103120-pilot-floating-bumper-lights.html

This can be done with a modified version of my Style D. I can make it so the tube mounts don't go up, just straight out. If I do it this way there will be almost no vibration. I usually charge an extra $20 for custom versions as I need to do new CAD work. Let me know what you think!

 

[MojaveMadMan]

I'm interested in this answer before I decide. Hopefully there is enough room behind for 4 tabs even spaced

I'll let you know on Wed!

 

[momo.75]

This can be done with a modified version of my Style D. I can make it so the tube mounts don't go up, just straight out. If I do it this way there will be almost no vibration. I usually charge an extra $20 for custom versions as I need to do new CAD work. Let me know what you think!

Will let you know. Still waiting to hear back about a front bumper. If it doesn't go through i will probably go this route. Thanks.

 

[swapmeet]

Are these difficult to mount, do they come with or require instructions? I assume you're keeping those details somewhat secret so nobody copies your product...

I'm not a fan of the straight bar, so i'm considering making my own bent bar but use your tabs. Plus I'm more than capable of welding that bar in place to offset the extra $60.

So... How much for the bar style, but without the bar?

 

[MojaveMadMan]

Are these difficult to mount, do they come with or require instructions? I assume you're keeping those details somewhat secret so nobody copies your product...

I'm not a fan of the straight bar, so i'm considering making my own bent bar but use your tabs. Plus I'm more than capable of welding that bar in place to offset the extra $60.

So... How much for the bar style, but without the bar?

I think you have it right, same as all plate price. I will include instructions with purchase, but they bolt on very simple. Remove the 4 main bumper nuts on each side, slide on brackets, put the nuts back on. Then you slide the light bar on, tighten 4 included bolts on each side. Honestly, no secrets here. I make the best light bars because I use better methods and I don't skimp on material. Anyone can easily figure out what I do if they really want to.

The extra $60 is for more than just welding a tube. It's extra material, more fab time, and the thing most miss; extra shipping material. I have to order special boxes in bulk to ship them in vs. just cutting up some random boxes to make it kinda fit.

If you want me to do bent tubes, or just want plates I can do either, just shoot me a PM.

 

[swapmeet]

I think you have it right, same as all plate price. I will include instructions with purchase, but they bolt on very simple. Remove the 4 main bumper nuts on each side, slide on brackets, put the nuts back on. Then you slide the light bar on, tighten 4 included bolts on each side. Honestly, no secrets here. I make the best light bars because I use better methods and I don't skimp on material. Anyone can easily figure out what I do if they really want to.

The extra $60 is for more than just welding a tube. It's extra material, more fab time, and the thing most miss; extra shipping material. I have to order special boxes in bulk to ship them in vs. just cutting up some random boxes to make it kinda fit.

If you want me to do bent tubes, or just want plates I can do either, just shoot me a PM.

Excellent answer. It looks like a very well engineered product. I guess I missed that the price included shipping. I guess I should spend more time reading and less time typing lol... eep:

I'm capable and honestly a fan of welding/ fabricating, so I think buying your plate kit and finishing it my own way will best meet my needs. I have no issue paying for the R&D and quality of parts your sending. I see the value and i'm glad you've taken the time to build this for us.

When do you expect to start shipping? (Probably something else you've mentioned that I didn't read...)

 

[MojaveMadMan]

Thanks!

Price does NOT include shipping, the tube version just needs an odd shaped box you can't go buy at a normal store... So I have to buy them from a special box place. I tried shipping these in boxes I cut to fit and had a lot of problems with stuff moving, hardware falling out, etc. I learned a lot from when I made these for Tacomas... Takes a lot more than just knowing how to fab haha. I learned a lot of R&D goes into packaging and shipping too... It's a super pain in the but haha.

So the list goes up the beginning of every month, two weeks for sign ups. Then I order all material, fab, and have them sent out hopefully by the last day of the month. I need to make additional welding fixtures this first time around so it's gunna be a challenge for me...

PM your PayPal email and your final choice and I can send you an invoice for the $50 deposit (needed to order laser cutting$. Let me know any other questions, happy to answer!

 

[97BlackAckCL]

PM sent with question, definitely in for A or B, just not sure which yet

 

[97BlackAckCL]

Deposit sent for B brackets :becky:

 

[swanny]

Thanks!

Price does NOT include shipping, the tube version just needs an odd shaped box you can't go buy at a normal store... So I have to buy them from a special box place. I tried shipping these in boxes I cut to fit and had a lot of problems with stuff moving, hardware falling out, etc. I learned a lot from when I made these for Tacomas... Takes a lot more than just knowing how to fab haha. I learned a lot of R&D goes into packaging and shipping too... It's a super pain in the but haha.

So the list goes up the beginning of every month, two weeks for sign ups. Then I order all material, fab, and have them sent out hopefully by the last day of the month. I need to make additional welding fixtures this first time around so it's gunna be a challenge for me...

PM your PayPal email and your final choice and I can send you an invoice for the $50 deposit (needed to order laser cutting$. Let me know any other questions, happy to answer!

Just a thought on Style D. Any chance you could just make it so the tube gets bolted on to the brackets? Might save you time in welding and also save us cost in shipping?

 

[MojaveMadMan]

Deposit sent for B brackets :becky:

Edit: List moved to main post

Just a thought on Style D. Any chance you could just make it so the tube gets bolted on to the brackets? Might save you time in welding and also save us cost in shipping?

I wish it were that simple. It is a good idea, but there are two problems.

First, even if I was able to make just the tube bolt on, there is still a 32" long tube I have to ship in the mail... Plus I would have to weld a threaded insert into the tube (those are expensive to buy or make) or a plate with bolt holes, which is what I am basically already doing.

Second, the frame brackets are part of the bulk, so even if it was just a tube, the brackets take up some space and I would need the same size box. Along with that, it already has two places where it bolts together (the frame and at the grill). Adding more places for it to bolt requires more hardware and more places for things to move which could cause vibrations.

I am with you, wish I could get the price down but I think the product you get for the price is very fair. I know other companies sell their products painted for the same price for other models of vehicles... But those are mass produced in China, and use thin and cheap material. They vibrate, bend easy and people have problems with them. I know when I was selling Tacoma ones people were selling there cheap ones to get these higher end ones. My goal is to make the very best product for you guys, something that will always meet your expectations. In order to do that I have to do things the way I have designed... I am very picky with what I buy and don't want to make something for you guys I wouldn't buy myself. I would rather sell less products that are great than more products that are of lower quality... Maybe that's why I will never end up doing this full time, haha.

I hope this explains things, please let me know if you have any questions!

 

[montijo505]

These are of so much better quality than a mass Chinese produced piece of crap I wouldn't even think twice about which to get, plus they look tits!!

 

[MojaveMadMan]

List moved to original post and will be updated there from now on!

 

[MojaveMadMan]

I'm interested in this answer before I decide. Hopefully there is enough room behind for 4 tabs even spaced

[MENTION=85601]swanny[/MENTION] you should have 5" from the post on the light to the closest spot on the grill, which does slope back so you get more more as it goes up. This is with the tabs being behind the bar. It is 7.5" if the tabs are in front.

 

[MojaveMadMan]

Just ordered up a whole bunch of light tabs and gussets for the first round! Getting all my CAD drawing all squared away today so that I can place my order on laser cutting as soon as our two week ordering period is over. Can't wait guys, I am getting a Style A for myself, haha!

 

[dleeallen]

[MENTION=85601]swanny[/MENTION] you should have 5" from the post on the light to the closest spot on the grill, which does slope back so you get more more as it goes up. This is with the tabs being behind the bar. It is 7.5" if the tabs are in front.

Sweet! Hella shows 89mm or 3.5" depth from the mounting stud on the 4000 so there would be plenty of space.

 

[MojaveMadMan]

Wanted to bump this thread, orders will close on the 15th of Feb so I can send in my laser cutting order. If you want one this run please let me know!