4th Gen values on the rise?

[ktom3001]

:wow:

Toyota 4runner 82K Miles, '09 - auto parts - by owner - vehicle...


Looks like BaT pricing to me, totally out of wack.

 

[ads2539]

$18k for a 2WD V6 with a salvage title?

Kelley Blue Book says ~$10k with a clean title.

 

[ktom3001]

$18k for a 2WD V6 with a salvage title?

Kelley Blue Book says ~$10k with a clean title.

Yeah salvage is bad enough, I still can't understand why Toyota ever made 2wd 4runners.

 

[grave]

Seller must be as high as their price. Bay area drugs is good!

 

[JuniorPigeon]

I was about to say it's not totally obsurd and then I saw 2WD, V6, and salvage title. Yikes. That's a shame, looks clean and low mileage.

 

[ktom3001]

I was about to say it's not totally obsurd and then I saw 2WD, V6, and salvage title. Yikes. That's a shame, looks clean and low mileage.

Hey no dissing the V6 . The V6 doesn't hurt values out here, Caflifornia gas is expensive and 13 mpg is painful.

 

[JuniorPigeon]

Hey no dissing the V6 . The V6 doesn't hurt values out here, Caflifornia gas is expensive and 13 mpg is painful.

I'm not dissing it at all :cheers: I had a 3rd and 5th gen, and my brother has a V6 4th. They're great!

They just don't bring quite the same money and something priced absolutely premium better have a V8.

P.S. I'm jealous, I wish I got 13 mpg hahaha.

 

[Piggity]

Hey no dissing the V6 . The V6 doesn't hurt values out here, California gas is expensive and 13 mpg is painful.

15 MPG combined on my last tank on my 06' V6 4wd with only 31.5's....V6's can suck the gas too.

Craigslist seller is high as a mofo to think he'll get that kind of scrilla for his salvage title 2wd V6.

 

[ktom3001]

15 MPG combined on my last tank on my 06' V6 4wd with only 31.5's....V6's can suck the gas too.

Craigslist seller is high as a mofo to think he'll get that kind of scrilla for his salvage title 2wd V6.

I guess it depends on your Highway/city split. My V6 got north of 20 hwy when it was stock. With 32's and a roof rack I'm around 17.5 if I don't drive 75 mph.
My neighbor with a v8 was getting like 230 miles to a tank on 31's, the math on that aint great.

 

[ads2539]

I guess it depends on your Highway/city split. My V6 got north of 20 hwy when it was stock. With 32's and a roof rack I'm around 17.5 if I don't drive 75 mph.
My neighbor with a v8 was getting like 230 miles to a tank on 31's, the math on that aint great.

Yeah. I was lucky to get 13 mpg (~300 miles per tank) with my V8, and that was when it was stock. I quit keeping track after getting a lift, bigger tires, etc.

 

[0verland]

Not sure why MPG always comes up... You should look at these vehicles like a sports car. Your not buying it for MPG, your buying it for the driving characteristics, capability and the fun of it. Should buy a compact or a hybrid if MPG is that important.

 

[WRTR5]

I guess it depends on your Highway/city split. My V6 got north of 20 hwy when it was stock. With 32's and a roof rack I'm around 17.5 if I don't drive 75 mph.
My neighbor with a v8 was getting like 230 miles to a tank on 31's, the math on that aint great.

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[ads2539]

Not sure why MPG always comes up... You should look at these vehicles like a sports car. Your not buying it for MPG, your buying it for the driving characteristics, capability and the fun of it. Should buy a compact or a hybrid if MPG is that important.

I agree. I didn’t buy mine for the MPG. I bought it to tow a trailer. I only post on the MPG threads when someone with a V6 complains about their MPG.

 

[ktom3001]

Not sure why MPG always comes up... You should look at these vehicles like a sports car. Your not buying it for MPG, your buying it for the driving characteristics, capability and the fun of it. Should buy a compact or a hybrid if MPG is that important.

I daily mine but that's besides the point. Range does come into play if you're out in BFE for long stretches. Extra gas is more weight and space taken up in addition to gear.
Or on a road trip, I don't want to stop for gas every 200 miles.

 

[newton22]

Not sure why MPG always comes up... You should look at these vehicles like a sports car. Your not buying it for MPG, your buying it for the driving characteristics, capability and the fun of it. Should buy a compact or a hybrid if MPG is that important.

Because they're not purpose built vehicles unless you modify them with suspension and 33s like a lot of us do as enthusiasts. At the end of the day, they're just a Toyota SUV which people use to pick up kids and move groceries.

 

[0verland]

I daily mine but that's besides the point. Range does come into play if you're out in BFE for long stretches. Extra gas is more weight and space taken up in addition to gear.
Or on a road trip, I don't want to stop for gas every 200 miles.

Do you happen to also own an electric car? Sounds like a case of range anxiety. I think in the scenario your referring to is applicable to about 3% of people, on a full tank 300 miles is pretty much a minimum for me with a V8, lift, tires, a sh*tload of armor and fully packed. In the event you would need to take on more fuel a 5 gallon jerry can adds roughly another 35~ lbs. We are really talking about a small small deviation.

When it comes down to all that if you run out of gas with 375 miles of range thats on you... take a course in navigation and route plotting.

Because they're not purpose built vehicles unless you modify them with suspension and 33s like a lot of us do as enthusiasts. At the end of the day, they're just a Toyota SUV which people use to pick up kids and move groceries.

Well... actually they are, sport utility vehicle... its in the name. By simple definition it is a car classification that combines elements of road-going passenger cars with features from off-road vehicles, such as raised ground clearance and four-wheel drive. So with that said... it is purpose built to have great capability than the passenger car. Can it be taken further with mods? Yes, of course.

MOST people don't buy trucks and SUVs to go off roading but they do buy them to have greater cargo capacity, better potential in inclement weather and there in lies that fact that they are purpose built vehicles. The crossover fad in recent years is proof of that.

 

[WRTR5]

MOST people don't buy trucks and SUVs to go off roading but they do buy them to have greater cargo capacity, better potential in inclement weather and there in lies that fact that they are purpose built vehicles. The crossover fad in recent years is proof of that.

Exactly this. The 4Runner's original roots were for offroad utility. Toyota stuck with that theme in the rest of the generations which differentiates with other suvs on the market. Increased ground clearance, larger tires, 4WD instead of AWD, (yes i know i have a rwd :crybaby and a large range of modifications made easy.

 

[ktom3001]

Do you happen to also own an electric car? Sounds like a case of range anxiety. I think in the scenario your referring to is applicable to about 3% of people, on a full tank 300 miles is pretty much a minimum for me with a V8, lift, tires, a sh*tload of armor and fully packed. In the event you would need to take on more fuel a 5 gallon jerry can adds roughly another 35~ lbs. We are really talking about a small small deviation.

When it comes down to all that if you run out of gas with 375 miles of range thats on you... take a course in navigation and route plotting.



Well... actually they are, sport utility vehicle... its in the name. By simple definition it is a car classification that combines elements of road-going passenger cars with features from off-road vehicles, such as raised ground clearance and four-wheel drive. So with that said... it is purpose built to have great capability than the passenger car. Can it be taken further with mods? Yes, of course.

MOST people don't buy trucks and SUVs to go off roading but they do buy them to have greater cargo capacity, better potential in inclement weather and there in lies that fact that they are purpose built vehicles. The crossover fad in recent years is proof of that.

No EV for me and I'm fine with navigation, we did pretty well during 400 miles of back roads and trail in Death Valley.
Since we're calling each other out I'd say there's more likely hood of you being on the next moon landing than your 4runner loaded in that configuration getting 300 miles to a tank. I've seen V8 4runners with zero gear, no lift, no armor not hitting 300 miles. My V6 with zero armor, mild lift, and 255's gets around 330 unloaded.
Maybe that's CA gas or maybe you drive a lot of flat roads. Maybe a course in navigation would help me avoid the hills around here.

 

[0verland]

No EV for me and I'm fine with navigation, we did pretty well during 400 miles of back roads and trail in Death Valley.
Since we're calling each other out I'd say there's more likely hood of you being on the next moon landing than your 4runner loaded in that configuration getting 300 miles to a tank. I've seen V8 4runners with zero gear, no lift, no armor not hitting 300 miles. My V6 with zero armor, mild lift, and 255's gets around 330 unloaded.
Maybe that's CA gas or maybe you drive a lot of flat roads. Maybe a course in navigation would help me avoid the hills around here.

 

[RBLACAUSA]

$18k for a 2WD V6 with a salvage title?

Kelley Blue Book says ~$10k with a clean title.

KBB has been off by a mile on their 4th gen values, at least on the wet coast.

The values of SUV's, especially "cool" ones, has jumped a lot since Stay At Home and Work From Home. Everyone wants to go out to the boonies and blog or vlog or whatever and show their 'Gram and selfies of them in front of a camp fire or a dusty truck. Bay Area wealth effect may be a force multiplier on values there?? That said, yeah, seems high on that price for a salvaged ride. Could also be a result of PUA, UI, and stimulus $ sloshing around...people spending.

Yeah salvage is bad enough, I still can't understand why Toyota ever made 2wd 4runners.

2WD 4Runners kick ass and make great road trip vehicles. They're great road cars...comfy, roomy, and safe. They'll also get you down most fire / forest service roads as long as mud/snow & ice, and rock climbing/technical stuff isn't on the menu. Now if you had said "I still can't understand why Toyota ever made 2wd FJC's" I'd be in agreement .

I daily mine but that's besides the point. Range does come into play if you're out in BFE for long stretches. Extra gas is more weight and space taken up in addition to gear.
Or on a road trip, I don't want to stop for gas every 200 miles.

At north of $3/gallon here in Hell-A, the gas mileage expense/range thing is a bummer. I've learned to buy lower octane gas at Costco instead of Chevron Supreme when I can, and I try to keep my speed <70MPH. I did 800 miles on an Eastern Sierra road trip last month and got 15 mpg there (uphill...LA to Bridgeport), and better on the way back. I have no problem spending an extra hour on 395N

Something important to consider is replacement value on our 4th gens if totaled. Who is a good Agreed Value insurance company? USAA doesn't offer it, and I have a feeling that I'd lose $5-10k if my low-mileage '04 V8 4wd Sport was to get totaled. I imagine I could sell at $15k pretty easily, yet KBB says maybe it's worth $7k, lol. I'd hate to "lose" $8k+ if my '04 gets totaled. I imagine I'd have similar issue on our '06 LX and '06 2WD 4Runner.