5Th Gen Locking gas cap update?
- Thread starter BootUnit
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yep they are releasing it in conjunction with the TRD supercharger.... supposed to run them together:rockon:
CrazyNorwegian
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This is what I like about these forums. Gives me a reason to upgrade things...wait let me rephrase that. Helps me convince my wife to upgrade things. She tells me her coworkers cat on their 3 gen was stolen..I tell her we need to upgrade the skid plates for more protection. Now people punching holes in the gas tank? I better do the full skid plate upgrade now.
1engineer
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That's a good reason! Around here now they don't steal gas as they have moved on to stealing copper.
whodat
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Yes, it'll prevent theft from a common amateur punkass going around trying to syphon the gas or do something stupid to the gas tank. It will take a little more time for a good thief to pick the lock, therefore the cap would delay the theft. And what 1engineer wrote, it won't prevent a smart thief from simply puncturing the gas tank! What [MENTION=66316]1engineer[/MENTION] wrote adds another perspective to a locking gas cap. I don't see why the hate towards the guy? He's just thinking outside the box like he usually does :hatsoff:
Let's all calm down and :grouphug:
Same here for my sister in law, her workplace has some jealous low lives that would put salt and a bunch of other stuff in the gas tank as they leave work, especially in new vehicles. So the first thing I bought her was a locking gas cap when she got the 2011 4R. One of the reasons why I bought mine. I mostly have to deal with asshats around here. Been working great for us!
1E had me laughing a little I have to be honest.
But FWIW. I ran commercial sales for PepBoys TX, OK, LA, and NM.
When we first started getting hit by fuel thieves, someone decided to put locking caps on all delivery trucks. Within a week I had 11 (eleven) ford rangers needing new fuel tanks.
After it happened enough times, the locking caps were scrapped.
And as far as 1E keeping a punch in his pocket......well consider this, if you are going out to steel gas, you will likely have the two tools you need on you.
Locking gas cap = hole in tank = you got no gas! and u need a new tank...
If you have to pick the most logical option, I say let them take your fuel, not your fuel and your fuel tank.
Locking fuel caps are like diet donuts....you are only tricking yourself.
BTW. Myth busters does an episode on sugar in the gas....outcome....car runs fine.
I think a locking fuel door would be nice BTW, even my 87 has one. But again, locking fuel cap to keep things out of fuel, I agree....but by locking the cap, you force would be thieves to punch your tank....there is no win
But FWIW. I ran commercial sales for PepBoys TX, OK, LA, and NM.
When we first started getting hit by fuel thieves, someone decided to put locking caps on all delivery trucks. Within a week I had 11 (eleven) ford rangers needing new fuel tanks.
After it happened enough times, the locking caps were scrapped.
And as far as 1E keeping a punch in his pocket......well consider this, if you are going out to steel gas, you will likely have the two tools you need on you.
Locking gas cap = hole in tank = you got no gas! and u need a new tank...
If you have to pick the most logical option, I say let them take your fuel, not your fuel and your fuel tank.
Locking fuel caps are like diet donuts....you are only tricking yourself.
BTW. Myth busters does an episode on sugar in the gas....outcome....car runs fine.
I think a locking fuel door would be nice BTW, even my 87 has one. But again, locking fuel cap to keep things out of fuel, I agree....but by locking the cap, you force would be thieves to punch your tank....there is no win
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whodat
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What about urine and feces? Yes, they are a bunch of asshats around here :uzi:
Agreed.
That's why I keep full coverage on EVERYTHING. Urine will to hurt your fuel, nor will excrement. The urine will burn off like all the water and crap already in your fuel, and the scar will get caught in your filter, and eventually clog it.
But I get it.......people are giant bags of scat... GD2013 just had his 2013 keyed.....why...because some punk thought it would be funny...
Is is hating on the guy...or just bored with the continual tsk, tsk, if you were only as smart as me, you wouldn't be asking such a stupid question. We're talking about a poster who routinely chides a newbie for something he deems unworthy, and has even made the ridiculous claim there are only a hand full of experts on this forum, and daring to raise some topic or the other will mean they stop answering inquiries.
Speaking of thinking outside the box. The same good thief (whodat, you've come up with the perfect oxymoron...;^) could just use that sharp punch in his back pocket to puncture a hole in your window, and steal the gas by taking the whole damn car.
Therefore no one should use a locking gas cap, OR bother locking the doors...right? That way when they find it stripped out in the woods, there won't be a broken window in it!...:reddance: Of course they do sell car alarms but - thinking outside that box again - a good thief can find a way to cut the power and render that idea mute :drum:
Maybe BootUnit is just looking for some peace of mind, or would just like to slow someone down. Maybe he does lock his doors, and would like to lock the gas tank too. Maybe he doesn't live in Appalachia where apparently a sharp punch and gas pan is a way of life. Or maybe he's just asking a question and could get an answer without the put down attached.
It's a funny thing. I didn't ask if I should get a locking gas cap. I asked if anybody had any issues with a Stant 10504. This was obviously in reference to any fuel evaporation issues, check engine light, etc. Live and learn. Some folks gave me very useful information, and I appreciate it. As for the other stuff, welcome to the Internet.
My 2010 TE with 68,000+ miles with Stant locking gas cap has never set off any check engine/other warning lights.
I do recommend once yearly/other regular interval to "shooting "some teflon/other quality lubricating spray into the lock and working it with the key to prevent "sticking"/hard to turn key from happening.
I do recommend once yearly/other regular interval to "shooting "some teflon/other quality lubricating spray into the lock and working it with the key to prevent "sticking"/hard to turn key from happening.
Sugar in a gas tank will ruin a motor. I know this because it was done to a truck of mine and I know who did and and what they put in the tank. I would question the show "myth busters" after reading that they say it won't hurt a car.
I am more worried about someone putting something in the tank than someone stealing gas. Therefore, I want to put a locking gas cap on my 2014 Trail. While like locking your doors won't stop every thief, locking your doors and using a locking gas cap will, however, stop a lot of people.
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nevada
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no it wont. it will clog shit up, and in general be a mess, and a PITA to clean. but it wont ruin the engine.
im really surprised these don't have a locking gas door. but apparently, according to some above, that little locking door is enough to keep people out, but a locking cap isn't? interesting....
This a quote from ehow on the internet and it seems more accurate than the others that I have read:
"There are cases where sugar can completely ruin an engine. If enough sugar gets by the filter, pumps and fuel injectors, it can get into the engine itself, and build up in the valves and piston rings. Once there, it will eventually harden into a mess that will require a complete engine overhaul or a new engine....The bottom line is that putting sugar in a gas tank really can cause some damage. The only variable is how much damage it causes....Not surprisingly, the sugar-in-the-gas-tank tactic was developed in the early 20th century as a guerrilla war tactic to disable enemy vehicles."
By the way, the sugar that was put in my tank was in liquid form, which cuts the legs out of the "mythbusers" sugar won't dissolve in gas flaw because it was already dissolved. It was an older truck, so maybe the filter was not as good as the new cars. However, as you pointed out, it will clog up a lot of stuff even if it does not ruin the engine, which will be very costly to fix. In my case, it did exactly what the above quote indicated--ruined the motor. I pulled the motor apart so I know what happened, I know the person who put it in my tank, and I know what was put in my tank (the person admitted it to me). Case closed.
By the way, I assumed everyone knew that "sugaring a tank" was not done with solid sugar. It was done with dissolved sugar back in the day--like koolaid. No wonder there is so much misinformation from mythbusters and articles on the internet when they have the technique wrong to begin with.
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Intruder
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It's funny how you quote an article on the internet (from a questionable site like eHow no less) that supports your position then go on to talk about misinformation from articles on the internet. I'm not saying one is right or wrong, just pointing out the humour in it.
eHow is not a valid source...it's like wiki. but if that's what it takes i will go make a page on ehow, claiming sugar, decomposed or otherwise does not ruin your engine and then it will fix your truck.
when you say dissolved sugar, are you referring to melted sugar? Sugar dissolved in water? or the little flasks of honey like sugar?
in any even i doubt sugar was used in warfare......its more than laughable. think about it..
Chapter 1:
" okay here is the plan. we are going to sneak up to the enemy vehicles and poor this sugar that i just magically dissolved into liquid into the gas tank, after multiple hours of use the sugar will burn creating a hard carbon deposit on the valves of the intake and exhaust rendering them ruined. sure it will take time, and risk getting caught, and sure there are thousands of other ways to ruin a vehicle that does not allow it to still drive and hunt you down...but dang it, i already dissolved this sugar and we have to use it."
Chapter 2:
After defeating opposing forces, our vehicles started running a little rough on our way to the bar.......i'm sure it will make it back home.."
THE END
I mock eHow because peopel believe it.
Fact is, if you are not at fear of someone steeling your gas, but someone dumping stuff in your tank is a real fear....why not put a locking cap on?
if that was a fear for me, i might. of course, if people want to damage your vehicle and you lock the gas cap, it is very likely they can still cause thousand$ in damages.
Stant has been doing this for years, and there probably is no better Aftermarket cap out there, in fact its probably better than many OEs.
Buy a stant, run it, if it gives you problems, stick your old cap back on until you find a solution....
As far as fuel thievery, wherever MAZ lives meth smoking fuel thieves also know how to bypass the Ignition, disable the transponder chip, fire the EFI circuit and start the car....I don't even think anyone on this forum could do that.....
comparing not locking your fuel cap so your tank dot get stabbed, to not locking your car; could be the lowest show of intellect i've seen in a while (except for mine).
Even so, he is correct that the OP pays the note on this T4R and wanted to know how the caps were holding up.... this shouldn't have hurt anyone's sensibilities.
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