6th gen (2025) 4Runner prices released

[trainman605]

I did not think that I needed all that TECH that today's vehicle come equipped with, but after having it' I for some reason think I can't buy a new vehicle without it. I pretty much buy the top model in whatever vehicle I choose to buy, I don't want to miss out on something new. Hay, I'm 79 and keeping up with all this new stuff isn't easy to do.

 

[Tryin2decide]

Perforated seats only softer/leather option?

If I’m reading the options for the trims, one must choose cloth or perforated softex or perforated leather...is that correct?

IMO I’ve always been concerned about those pin holes collecting dirt, salt….anything.

I like our Highlander’s softex non-perforated seats….but I don’t see that as an option on the 2025 4runner….

Thanks.

 

[fkheath]

If I’m reading the options for the trims, one must choose cloth or perforated softex or perforated leather...is that correct?

IMO I’ve always been concerned about those pin holes collecting dirt, salt….anything.

I like our Highlander’s softex non-perforated seats….but I don’t see that as an option on the 2025 4runner….

Thanks.

You are right. Softex and leather only come ventilated.

 

[rwh963]

don't forget, for many, significant sales tax plus high excise tax. i would love to get a replacement '07-'09 lower mileage v6 at a fraction of the new cost. the new one isn't THAT much better.

 

[trainman605]

I went by my dealer here in Ft. Worth, Texas and they had 14 Land Cruisers on the lot for sale, yes, the Land Cruisers cost more than the new 4 Runners, but it does say something about sales. Higher priced 4 Runners could fall into the same situation.

 

[thatoneguy]

I went by my dealer here in Ft. Worth, Texas and they had 14 Land Cruisers on the lot for sale, yes, the Land Cruisers cost more than the new 4 Runners, but it does say something about sales. Higher priced 4 Runners could fall into the same situation.

I think that says more about production numbers than sales numbers. The Land Cruiser 250 is heavily outselling every previous Land Cruiser ever in the US. For the 20 years of previous Land Cruiser sales data available, 2024 has 5x as many sales as the next best year, 2005.

The bigger problem may be whether the "smaller" Land Cruiser and new 4Runner will cannibalize each others sales. It could be "4Runner V8 vs GX470" all over again.

 

[trainman605]

I think that says more about production numbers than sales numbers. The Land Cruiser 250 is heavily outselling every previous Land Cruiser ever in the US. For the 20 years of previous Land Cruiser sales data available, 2024 has 5x as many sales as the next best year, 2005.

The bigger problem may be whether the "smaller" Land Cruiser and new 4Runner will cannibalize each others sales. It could be "4Runner V8 vs GX470" all over again.

I would hope the new Land Cruiser would be out selling the older model Land Cruisers, the older model at the end of production prices were in the $90,000/$100,000 range.
For me I would probably be looking at a new Lexus GX 550 which would have the V6 as I'm not a fan of the 4-cyclender engine, purchasing a new Toyota, or Lexus with the 4-cyclinder engine is not in my future at this time.
Honda has the V6 engine in several of their new vehicles and it has been in many for years, I know I've owned several Accords and Ridgelines over the years and they get better fuel mileage than the new 4-cyclinder Toyotas get, or at least equal. You mean to tell me Toyota can't do the same.

 

[thatoneguy]

I would hope the new Land Cruiser would be out selling the older model Land Cruisers, the older model at the end of production prices were in the $90,000/$100,000 range.
For me I would probably be looking at a new Lexus GX 550 which would have the V6 as I'm not a fan of the 4-cyclender engine, purchasing a new Toyota, or Lexus with the 4-cyclinder engine is not in my future at this time.
Honda has the V6 engine in several of their new vehicles and it has been in many for years, I know I've owned several Accords and Ridgelines over the years and they get better fuel mileage than the new 4-cyclinder Toyotas get, or at least equal. You mean to tell me Toyota can't do the same.

Yes, Toyota cannot do the same. They did not accidentally arrive at their new engines. The new 4Runner in nonhybrid form does 19/25mpg EPA cycle on 33" tires on offroad trims, a HUGE increase from 5th gen, despite running 1" larger tires. That wouldn't be possible limping an N/A V6 into a new generation. And turbo V6 costs on fuel economy, as the GX550's fuel economy numbers show.

A Ridgeline is not a viable comparison. It rides on much narrower (245 width) and shorter (rounded up to 30") tires, and has a few/several hundred pounds less weight to carry around. In addition to being front-wheel drive when the rear end is not slipping, which greatly aids fuel economy. The truck-based nature of the 4Runner gives up some fuel economy for capability. The 4cyl is an attempt to get some of it back, have some of both worlds. That 4cyl gets you some low end torque that you do not get in smaller N/A V6's like the Honda, or the old Toyota 3.5L/4.0L.

Had my fair share of Honda V6's. They got much worse fuel economy than the same vehicles in their 4cyl offerings. That's the price. N/A with higher cylinder counts does not help fuel economy.

 

[trainman605]

My personal feeling on fuel mileage is if it gets 15 plus MPG then I'm ok with the vehicle, because it's the vehicle I want to drive. and when it comes to 4-cyclender engines I just don't care for them, I don't care what fuel mileage they get, if when I open the hood and that little 4-cyclender is looking at me, I shut the hood in discuss. It like someone asks me, if $5.00 was the price of fuel per gallon would it change my like style and of course I said, NO. Now at 79 and having worked for Chevrolet Motor Division for some 35 years and grew up with all those high HP engines, it's hard to not enjoy the times I had behind the wheel of those powerful cars. So, where I'm coming from would not be where most are today, just signs of the time.

 

[fkheath]

it's hard to not enjoy the times I had behind the wheel of those powerful cars. So, where I'm coming from would not be where most are today, just signs of the time.

I bought a new "67 Camaro SS (350 V8 engine, etc) and really thought it was the greatest car. Did a few mods (bigger radial tires, traction bars, etc) and thought it was even better, fast, fun to drive, etc.

Then I bought my six cylinder Porsche. What a difference, night and day. Although the Porsche was not as fast in a straight line (drag strip), it was so much superior in every other way. Much faster around curves, higher top speed (130 MPH), more stable at higher speeds due to better aerodynamics.

Yes, there is something to be said for a big knarly V8, but I've enjoyed the Porsche so much more; still have it it even though it is over 50 years old now.

 

[trainman605]

I guess I got this thread off topic with my rant on large engines. As we all can see in most cases they won't be back and are pretty much gone forever. Now for some that will be a loss in their love of the automobile, but for many it will be what they wanted all along. So, for those who missed out on the past fun of driving these powerful machines all I can say is, it was a great time to live. fftopic:

 

[88Center]

What % below MSRP will you try to negotiate when buying new 6th gen 4Runner?

Looking at prices, if dealer adds anything onto the top models, by the time tax and all that is included, probably going to be $75k. Ack

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Trim Level

MSRP (dest. incl.)

Toyota 4Runner SR5 2WD

$42,220

Toyota 4Runner SR5 4WD

$44,220

Toyota 4Runner TRD Sport 2WD

$48,700

Toyota 4Runner TRD Sport 4WD

$50,700

Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road 4WD

$50,640

Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road i-Force Max Hybrid 4WD

$53,440

Toyota 4Runner TRD Sport Premium 2WD

$54,060

Toyota 4Runner TRD Sport Premium 4WD

$56,060

Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road Premium i-Force Max Hybrid 4WD

$59,220

Toyota 4Runner Limited 2WD

$56,850

Toyota 4Runner Limited 4WD

$58,850

Toyota 4Runner Limited i-Force Max Hybrid 4WD

$61,650

Toyota 4Runner Platinum i-Force Max Hybrid 4WD

$64,310

Toyota 4Runner Trailhunter i-Force Max Hybrid 4WD

$68,350

Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro i-Force Max Hybrid 4WD

$68,350

 

[Ricomondo]

I have a '16 TRD-P w/133k and was eagerly awaiting the new 6th gen. I signed up for the email/text alerts and when I got the text couple of weeks ago, I sat down and configured a new one. It totaled out just a touch over $70k...uugh. I understand it wouldn't be the $41K I paid for the '16 when new, but man almost $30K more in just under ten years!?
Either way, I'm gonna sit on the sidelines for one more year. I'm not enthused about the hybrid thing for the TRD-P, which means you lose the rear cargo slide out tray - which I use quite a bit. Plus I want to see how the engine reviews come back on the hybrid, and if they change up the fender flares on the TRD-P from glossy black to something different.

 

[trainman605]

Negotiating prices at this time is pretty much a joke on a 2025 4-Runner. If you want a Toyota then the only prices that are negotiable are on Tundra's and Tacoma's, everything else on new Toyota's is pretty much get in line at the dealer and we will call you when it comes in. I was at the Lexus dealer for service on my wife's Lexus yesterday and I wanted to look at the TX 350 and the GX 500 and they had one of each, about 10 total new models to buy on the lot. If you want a good deal on a new vehicle I wouldn't be looking for a Toyota product and probably long into the future.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

Invoice Price Web Sites

The websites like KBB and Edmunds used to list invoice prices and I relied on those to negotiate new cars deals. They dont have them for any of the vehicles I was interested in. It would be nice to find those numbers again.

 

[RichinRidgewood]

What % below MSRP will you try to negotiate when buying new 6th gen 4Runner?

Looking at prices, if dealer adds anything onto the top models, by the time tax and all that is included, probably going to be $75k. Ack

I bought our 2020 4Runner SR5-P at dealer cost +$500 in MA when we were living in NJ.

The 2025's will probably be at sticker for awhile.

Call a dealer ask for the "internet sales manager" and start at -10% off sticker and see how it goes. Know exactly what you want the the sticker cost. If they are a dick tell them to eat shit and go to the next place.

 

[Turfboy]

I think at those prices I can rebuild my KDSS system when/ if it ever goes and put a new drivers seat in when it wears out And put a heated steering wheel on.

 

[trainman605]

I buy my vehicles on resale values, not so much on what the vehicle cost when new. This can be a crap shoot, but I have always found buying Toyota products and Honda products your return money will be much better than say many other vehicles from other manufactures. Since this is the 4-Runner Forum and these vehicles are one of the top resale vehicles in the market today and probably will hold their value in the future, paying more maybe looked at as not a bad thing. I do realize for those who finance their vehicles that any increase in price can defiantly affect what they pay for a vehicle and in many cases it puts them not being able to buy the vehicle they once could. I personally don't see prices coming down, as once they go up it's almost impossible to bring them back to what they were. Only thing you can hope for is the U S economy to get better and wages will go up, I guess we will see how it goes in the future.

 

[fkheath]

The websites like KBB and Edmunds used to list invoice prices and I relied on those to negotiate new cars deals. They dont have them for any of the vehicles I was interested in. It would be nice to find those numbers again.

The Costco Auto Purchase program usually has the invoice price. However, "invoice" really doesn't mean anything anymore because the actual dealer cost is below that invoice.

 

[trainman605]

I shop at Costco all the time, but as far as buying a vehicle there, no way. I think for the person who just can't handle the dealership experience it could work for them, that is the unknowing person who wants a new vehicle but can't deal with all the different things car dealers throw at you in the buying process. If you just want a vehicle that dealers have several in stock, you can probably get one of those for possibly some savings, but I feel you could get the same deal at the dealership and possibly even less money than Costco could get for you. Remember Costco is going to get something for selling this vehicle to you and you will be paying for the privilege of buying at Costco. Now for those who want new vehicles that are in big demand and dealerships can sell all they can get, you are not going to be able to get one of these models anytime soon, or even at all. Take the new 2025 4-Runner, which is still not really hit the dealerships lots yet, I would say it might not ever be available on the Costco buying plan, as many vehicles are not. I notice my Costco in Ft. Worth, Texas has not had any new vehicles on display for the last 6 months that I can remember, don't know if it's just that location, or the buying plan is not pushed like it was.