6th Gen 4Runner Predictions!

[WallyT4R]

My prediction. No 6th gen. :music:

 

[vintage]

I have no problem with that. The looks, luxury, and sophistication of a Lexus with the off-road prowess of a 4Runner. Whats not to like? Also a lot more people are using GX470's and 460's for off-roading because of those reason and because they're now more affordable as older used vehicles. I'm actually a big fan of the looks of the global vehicles much more than those used in the NA market and if they introduce a LC-Prado like vehicle as the 6th gen 4R with a few engine & powertrain choices I'll be trading in the 4R in a heart beat. Funny how some consider the LC Prado a "soccer mom" vehicle but in Australia it's an off-roading beast. Go figure. If it comes out in 2020/2021 even better, at least I'll have a few years to beat up the 4R and we'll likely see a Ford Ranger and/or Bronco by then.

Nothing against the Lexus GX, I think it's a good looking SUV. Just not my cup of tea, I guess that's why I bought a Trd Pro instead of a GX. I'm glad to have the choice of a completly different look and hope Toyota keeps the look different. As the Prado reminds me of a Gx with a different front end.

 

[philsey]

GX is better built than the 4Runner, like for example the hood doesn't wobble at speed on the freeway and there is actual sound insulation in the body.

GX have always had all the off road features of the 4Runner.

GX is AWD in the US.

GX has V8 in the US.

GX has a substantially nicer interior.

GX is slightly roomier.

GX has massive aftermarket support, many Australian parts are modified from the GX for the 4Runner and FJC.

GX is overall better value than a fully optioned 4Runner, especially a Limited.

... aaaaand it has that stupid, stupid tailga.., err taildoor. I've been to look at GX twice, and I just cannot get past that awful back door.

Never mind how useful our rear roll-down window is.

Totally disagree on the "value" statement too. I refuse to pay the too-high premium just for the Lexus privilege. Sure, it's 'nicer', but that's not necessarily 'better' enough to justify the cost -- but different strokes.

 

[vintage]

GX is better built than the 4Runner, like for example the hood doesn't wobble at speed on the freeway and there is actual sound insulation in the body.

GX have always had all the off road features of the 4Runner.

GX is AWD in the US.

GX has V8 in the US.

GX has a substantially nicer interior.

GX is slightly roomier.

GX has massive aftermarket support, many Australian parts are modified from the GX for the 4Runner and FJC.

GX is overall better value than a fully optioned 4Runner, especially a Limited.

You forgot to mention how it looks like a Soccer Mom's SUV :fish:

 

[sn_85]

Nothing against the Lexus GX, I think it's a good looking SUV. Just not my cup of tea, I guess that's why I bought a Trd Pro instead of a GX. I'm glad to have the choice of a completly different look and hope Toyota keeps the look different. As the Prado reminds me of a Gx with a different front end.

That's actually the previous gen Prado. The newer one has straighter and more angled lines. There's no denying that the GX and LC-Prado share a lot of similarities but I think there's a good balance of sophistication, technology and ruggedness in the new Prado. Now if they could maybe introduce the LC-Prado as the new GX and also come out with a 6th gen 4R that would satisfy NA buyers then would be the best of both worlds. I doubt that would happen but one can dream!!!

 

[LandCruiser]

... aaaaand it has that stupid, stupid tailga.., err taildoor. I've been to look at GX twice, and I just cannot get past that awful back door.

Never mind how useful our rear roll-down window is.

Totally disagree on the "value" statement too. I refuse to pay the too-high premium just for the Lexus privilege. Sure, it's 'nicer', but that's not necessarily 'better' enough to justify the cost -- but different strokes.

I think it's better built, and if they sell it as a Toyota instead of a Lexus, they won't be able to surcharge it so much. Remember that you can get these as base models elsewhere in the world and if they sell it as a T4R in the US, that will also be the case.

And if it has a tail door, it's much easier to convert it to carry a spare from the door (like less than 200 bucks) instead of paying 3k for a bumper that that has a swingaway carrier or one of those idiotic hitch mounted carriers.

 

["krax"]

I don't get all the hate for the swinging back door.

The 70-series LCs have back doors and no one's complaining about those.. So does the Montero/Pajero, Defender, Trooper, some 60-series LCs, older Tahoes, Yukons, and Suburbans.

If I had my wish though, I'd want the LC-/Disco-style tailgate.

 

[LandCruiser]

I don't get all the hate for the swinging back door.

The 70-series LCs have back doors and no one's complaining about those.. So does the Montero/Pajero, Defender, Trooper, some 60-series LCs, older Tahoes, Yukons, and Suburbans.

If I had my wish though, I'd want the LC-/Disco-style tailgate.

I like the 70/30 ambulance doors, personally, like you see on foreign market LCs.

Liftgate/tailgate is also a really good solution.

Liftgate only is my least favorite, the sliding rear glass makes it heavy and when it's cold here it won't go up all the way without some assistance--kinda like Harvey Weinstein.

 

[Jetboy]

I'm a fan of the sideways opening rear door. I'd rather have ambulance doors, but after that - I'd take the side door. I do wish they would at least swap sides though to make it appropriate for right hand drive vehicles. I kinda hate the lift gate. I'll take the swing any day. First - it's a lot easier to load both the rear and the roof rack. I suspect that's the primary reason for the utility version for global sales to have a more useful door for utility type functions as compared to the 4runner that uses a more minivan style door.

And the side door is better for overland use too because you can both store stuff in the door (that's where the jack and tire tools are), but also you can use it as additional real estate for tables and such.

And you can mount a tire directly on the door rather than having to add 50lbs of extra weight to the bumper.

Basically there's a bunch of reasons a door is better for overland/utility use. Same reasons you never see gates on utility vans. It's just not great for loading groceries in the rain. And we mostly load groceries in the rain here. So we get the lift gate.

The side door also kinda sucks for towing. You can't open it with a trailer attached if your trailer has a tongue jack of any sort that interferes, so almost all RV type trailers are going to be a bit of a PITA. And some bicycle racks too. The ambulance doors solve all those issues.

 

[vintage]

I'm a fan of the sideways opening rear door. I'd rather have ambulance doors, but after that - I'd take the side door. I do wish they would at least swap sides though to make it appropriate for right hand drive vehicles. I kinda hate the lift gate. I'll take the swing any day. First - it's a lot easier to load both the rear and the roof rack. I suspect that's the primary reason for the utility version for global sales to have a more useful door for utility type functions as compared to the 4runner that uses a more minivan style door.

And the side door is better for overland use too because you can both store stuff in the door (that's where the jack and tire tools are), but also you can use it as additional real estate for tables and such.

And you can mount a tire directly on the door rather than having to add 50lbs of extra weight to the bumper.

Basically there's a bunch of reasons a door is better for overland/utility use. Same reasons you never see gates on utility vans. It's just not great for loading groceries in the rain. And we mostly load groceries in the rain here. So we get the lift gate.

The side door also kinda sucks for towing. You can't open it with a trailer attached if your trailer has a tongue jack of any sort that interferes, so almost all RV type trailers are going to be a bit of a PITA. And some bicycle racks too. The ambulance doors solve all those issues.

I'm a big fan of the lift tailgate on the 4Runners. Works great in the rain for protection, when loading and unloading. :trophy:

 

[Ryan1975]

GX is better built than the 4Runner, like for example the hood doesn't wobble at speed on the freeway and there is actual sound insulation in the body.

GX have always had all the off road features of the 4Runner.

GX is AWD in the US.

GX has V8 in the US.

GX has a substantially nicer interior.

GX is slightly roomier.

GX has massive aftermarket support, many Australian parts are modified from the GX for the 4Runner and FJC.

GX is overall better value than a fully optioned 4Runner, especially a Limited.

Howdy Neighbor. I took a photo of your truck less than a block from my house.

 

[infamousRNR]

i wonder if the team developing the 4runner's even looks at all our posts?

it would be nice if someone from this site was helping with the development of the newer generation 4runners and offRoad toyotas for that matter.

a lot of good ideas come from here and i feel that they are never utilized.

someone please apply to work at toyota and build the next generation of 4runners and stop making it so soccer-mom-ish. the newer generations are growing on me but there is nothing like the 1st and 3rd gens as far as style is concerned

 

[J-Rock]

The 6th Gen might look like this.


Toyota SA to debut Hilux's fresh face on special new model! - CAR magazine

 

[Drama1]

The 6th Gen might look like this.


Toyota SA to debut Hilux's fresh face on special new model! - CAR magazine

God, I hope not. That is friggin fugly.

 

[tarpon6]

I'm a big fan of the lift tailgate on the 4Runners. Works great in the rain for protection, when loading and unloading. :trophy:

Me too , I like it as is. Ambulance doors? :wtf:

 

[83Mule]

The Dakar version is more ''American'' looking than the ''World'' version on the new Hilux......I could say it has some Tacoma influence almost.

 

[TheFabFour]

The 6th Gen might look like this.


Toyota SA to debut Hilux's fresh face on special new model! - CAR magazine

That looks like a female version of the 5th gen.

 

[Vol4life]

6th gen Diesel

According to my dealer the 6th gen will be diesel. Any info out there on the details of the drivetrain?

 

[e60ral]

According to my dealer the 6th gen will be diesel. Any info out there on the details of the drivetrain?

Your dealer doesn't know anything more than anyone else

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[spanvs888]

I came across this yesterday. Very interesting regarding Toyota's new trucks.
http://www.autonews.com/article/20180326/OEM02/180329837/toyotas-truck-translator