Actually Off-Roading '16 T4R- will this set up work?

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Kala K.

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Hi All, I'm getting a brand new '16 T4R (first new car! huge upgrade from my '01 T4R w/ 250k miles) and thinking of:

-3 in lift
-BFG 285/70/17
-Fender liner modification ("pull forward")
-Mud Flap Removal

From my research it seems that people who do these modification do not have trouble with rubbing ON the road. I live in Hawai'i and go off-road over uneven lava fields.

Does this set up work when you actually go OFF road? None of the forums seemed to specify this. Please help- I'm a novice here.

Thank you!
 
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I have a brand new '16 T4R. It has

-0" lift
- 265/70/17 KO2s

And it actually works OFF ROAD.

I used to live in the 808 and I think that setup would have no problems as long as you don't get into the crazy stuff.
 
Skip the lift.

Drive this truck and experience its capabilities first then re-asses if you need a lift. Put on a good set of stock size all terrain tires and you will be fine. I do plenty of class 4 dirt roads in VT with a stock 2016 TEP, save for the TRD Pro front shocks and have little issue. Just pick good lines and save your money for going to cool places and exploring!

Currently I'm in Nepal and the terrain people drive over with no drama in stock Prados, Mahimdras etc is pretty challenging and impressive.


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Lift and tires are the two biggest components in improving off-road performance. I have 3" Old Man Emu suspension with 285 Nittos with no rubbing issues. I did remove the front mud flaps.


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I would get a decent set of All-Terrains and stick to that until you identify a problem area. Once you figure out what you need help with then modify to fix the issue.

After my tires I ended up dragging my front bumper in washouts a bunch, so I got a higher clearance steel bumper

Kept getting stuck in ruts that were too deep and dragging the bottom of the truck. Picked up a lift.

I'd say save the money until you figure out what needs to be addressed.
 
Yes. That will work for actual offroading. Generally on my 4runner the rub is almost always on the street. Compressed the spindle moves up and back. Away from the rub point.

The lift will make no difference at all with respect to rubbing. That's not how it works with IFS. 285's fit on most 4runners with fender liner/bumper cover trim and mud flap removal/clearance. The lift has other benefits - tire size is not one of them.
 
Rim Offset

Thank you everyone. Last question- what about rims? Thinking of the XD Series XD796 Revolver, but they have a -12mm offset. I've read some posts about + & - offsets, but I'm not quite sure I understand it correctly.

What kind of rims & what kind of offsets are you all using to avoid rubbing? Is this even related?

Thanks again! Nice to have support when deciding what to get done.
 
Kala K. said:
Thank you everyone. Last question- what about rims? Thinking of the XD Series XD796 Revolver, but they have a -12mm offset. I've read some posts about + & - offsets, but I'm not quite sure I understand it correctly.

What kind of rims & what kind of offsets are you all using to avoid rubbing? Is this even related?

Thanks again! Nice to have support when deciding what to get done.
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Offset can help you keep away from your UCA with wider tires and give you that wide stance. The further out you go, especially with a wider tire like a 285, the more likely you are to rub on the fenders.

Stock TE Rims are +15 offset so a -12 is about the equivalent to adding a 1.25 in. spacer to that. For reference, the TRD pro is a +4mm offset and the fenders are modded off the boat to prevent rubbing with a 265/70/17 (stock size) tire.
 
NO!!! DO NOT OFF ROAD YOUR 4RUNNER WITHOUT THE FOLLOWING!!!

Bronze OR gunmetal wheels
Anodized blue wheel spacers
295 (minimum) TOYO Ridge Grapplers
Daystar spacer lift
Yellow fog light film / LED or HID Headlight retrofit
15% window tint
Red clevis shackles in factory tie-down locations
TRD OFF ROAD screen saver for Entune monitor


Please be careful and spend some more time reading the forum before you go out and get yourself hurt!
 
Kala K. said:
Hi All, I'm getting a brand new '16 T4R (first new car! huge upgrade from my '01 T4R w/ 250k miles) and thinking of:

-3 in lift
-BFG 285/70/17
-Fender liner modification ("pull forward")
-Mud Flap Removal

From my research it seems that people who do these modification do not have trouble with rubbing ON the road. I live in Hawai'i and go off-road over uneven lava fields.

Does this set up work when you actually go OFF road? None of the forums seemed to specify this. Please help- I'm a novice here.

Thank you!
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What island?
 
Won't work off-road. Sorry.

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MisplacedTexan said:
I would get a decent set of All-Terrains and stick to that until you identify a problem area. Once you figure out what you need help with then modify to fix the issue.

After my tires I ended up dragging my front bumper in washouts a bunch, so I got a higher clearance steel bumper

Kept getting stuck in ruts that were too deep and dragging the bottom of the truck. Picked up a lift.

I'd say save the money until you figure out what needs to be addressed.
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That's the best advice. Start with good AT tires, then see what you need or will use. I did install a modest spacer lift, but stuck with stock size tires for 2 reasons. First, wheel well clearance is already tight; second, the gearing is already too tall.
 
delloro said:
How are they modded?
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After re-reading, I hope I wasn't too misleading. I didn't realize I wrote fender. Just meant the simple wheel well modifications. They trim the bottom corner of the front bumper in the wheel well.

There's a thread with the Toyota service procedure for it somewhere here.
 
Unless you're dead set on a lift for the aesthetic aspect, follow the advise from other posters that recommend you start with tires and do a bit of wheelin' to see what, if any, challenges you need to address with vehicle mods.

I myself have a '16 TEP and I'm pretty new to the T4R culture and wheelin', but I went right for the lift and tires because I: A. Like the look of a mildly lifted 4Runner over stock and B. Knew I had no aversion to pushing the truck over moderate to difficult terrain (that would warrant a lift, etc.) eventually.

That said, don't go crazy. The more wild you get, the more it will cost, the more you'll be working on maintaining said wildness, and the less reliable your vehicle will eventually become... and the more it will cost... Did I mention how expensive this can get? lol

Read up on lifts, etc. on this forum. There's a reason why a lot of these folks use the same brand(s) of stuff - tried and true. And always keep in mind what YOU are planning to do with your ride, where you'll take it, how reliable you need it to be, and mod accordingly.

Welcome!

And have a great holiday!

~Fish
 
Oh, and yes, what you have listed will work just fine, but with this vehicle you certainly don't "need it" to get out there and have some fun. :guitar2:
 
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