no limitations. just seem like a troll move since that is old news.
I dont see how someone is stating what they saw as bashing scotty.
Its great you think the world of scott.
think about all the people out there that paid already.
21 4th gen bumpers = almost $20,000
I did the math and thats a bunch of cheese sitting out there. With very little update and way past promised deadlines.
You take Josh from [MENTION=77764]Whitson Metalworks[/MENTION] his stuff is popular too on t4r.org he updates everyone as the order progresses. its not secret.
people just want what they paid for, update them on progress, everyone is very understanding, its just that simple..
OKay, I will respond to this before a pissing match ensues.
First of all, I have kept people up to date. I am not hiding from anything and never have. I didn't have my subscription setup correctly on the thread, so I wasn't receiving emails when a post was posted. Which also begs the question as to why someone can't call or email me directly when they need status. Some people have called or emailed, and I have updated them all along. But, I don't have time to check the forums constantly either. Especially if they want their bumpers done. lol
In the case of Hour, yes, I do think it was bashing a little bit. Claiming I wasn't working on bumpers, when in fact the machine I was working on is my plasma table which is the machine that cuts all of these bumpers out. Just because my employees are working on a solid axled rig doesn't mean nothing is being done. IMO, he implied that I didn't care about working on bumpers. Quite the contrary.
Also, there is no chance this was anywhere close to $20K in bumpers. Bumpers have gone up in price $75-100 each since the group buy. Not to mention there was $125 off of each one. Average price of the whole run was $675/ea. That is $13,500. However, but the time I pay for materials, consumables, labor, press bending, winch plates, tubing, sheet metal, etc. There might be $100 profit in each one. So, please don't make it sound like I am pocketing $20k. It is FAR from the truth.
I have already explained that people will get what they paid for, which is a badass bumper for their rig. Some already have gotten theirs. And this is where we stand right now. These are all 3rd gen 4runner bumpers that were built this week. These are NOT ready to ship yet, but some will be ready by tomorrow afternoon to leave. This is three SOLID 10hr days of labor to build 10 bumpers and they aren't even done yet. That is how much labor goes into these.
With all that said, I will never do another group buy. I have always said that a group buy does nothing more than cripple a shop's turn times and in the end the customer gets screwed. And, IMO, sometimes getting a better deal isn't always the best deal.