Aftermarket hood with scoop

[KingTaco]

Yes. All colors. The issue is this - the shiny surface has what's called "specular reflection" - like a mirror. And light reflects on a shiny surface in such a way that the angle of incidence equals the angle of reflection. Like this:

 

[manofsteele2003]

I wouldn't buy an off-brand hood or any off-brand body panel for that matter. Generally the fitment sucks and it's usually made in China with inferior lighter/thinner metal. A Toyota brand hood isn't that far off on price, I think it's around $450 plus the plastic inserts, $150 or so then paint. You're probably looking at $1000-1200 to do the conversion with factory parts.

And by the way, the hood glare isn't that bad, the cool factor outweighs it.

 

[toku58]

I haven't had any glare issues despite driving to work heading east in the AM and west in the PM.

I believe the glare problem would happen if you drove East in the AM and West in the PM. (opposite of what you do)
Driving into the sun at the right time of day the sun glare gets reflected into the cab.

 

[GearJunkie88]

I believe the glare problem would happen if you drove East in the AM and West in the PM. (opposite of what you do)
Driving into the sun at the right time of day the sun glare gets reflected into the cab.

Uh.... I think that's what I typed.

 

[GearJunkie88]

I wouldn't buy an off-brand hood or any off-brand body panel for that matter. Generally the fitment sucks and it's usually made in China with inferior lighter/thinner metal. A Toyota brand hood isn't that far off on price, I think it's around $450 plus the plastic inserts, $150 or so then paint. You're probably looking at $1000-1200 to do the conversion with factory parts.

And by the way, the hood glare isn't that bad, the cool factor outweighs it.

Good point. The eBay hood only saved $100 or so. The good news is that the Chinese version I got doesn't have the glare issue.

 

[Enzo4370]

Well anyone complaining about there glare on there hood, please feel free to sell it to me and you can have my glare-less hood. Any color is fine with me. I can get it repainted. Silver preferred.

 

[GearJunkie88]

Yes. All colors. The issue is this - the shiny surface has what's called "specular reflection" - like a mirror. And light reflects on a shiny surface in such a way that the angle of incidence equals the angle of reflection.

I'm a product of the Texas public education system and I surely don't understand all them fancy physics thangs, but don't some colors absorb light and others reflect it? Like don't wear black clothes when in the sun on a hot day???

Pictures coming soon.

 

[Jok*rUSMC]

In for the pics, Really want a scoop as well.Having my door repainted in a week and have been debating picking up a hood while I'm at it.

 

[johnbt]

"I have zero problems with glare from my Barcelona Red trail. YMMV."

I agree completely. No glare at all. I usually wear polarized sunglasses - prescription dark gray from Lenscrafters if that matters.

John

 

[Jetboy]

I'm a product of the Texas public education system and I surely don't understand all them fancy physics thangs, but don't some colors absorb light and others reflect it? Like don't wear black clothes when in the sun on a hot day???

Pictures coming soon.

All colors absorb light. Some colors reflect more of it than others, or different wave lengths of colors. White reflects a broad spectrum of colors. That's more of an issue of diffuse reflection though. In this case it's because of two issues. First it's polished surface. Second, it's the clear coat on all colors but white that is reflecting most of the light. The angle of incidence where the sun will reflect into your eyes is very high. Probably at least 80 degrees - meaning it's almost flat with the surface. The majority of the light at that angle will reflect directly off the surface of the clear coat and not reach the base color of paint underneath.

A matte finish would help quite a bit. Much more so than changing the color. The microscopic rough surface will diffuse and scatter the light much moreso than having a black paint for example.

 

[johnbt]

"suffice it to say that polarized sun glasses will help, but it's still going to suck once in a while."

Nah, because I don't wash my truck, either. :dancin:

I carry Invisible Glass to keep the windshield spotless, but the daily dew at my girlfriend's house means all of the dust and pollen sticks to the paint. Fortunately, it rains a lot here.

John

 

[toku58]

Uh.... I think that's what I typed.

DOH!!!!:boom:
Damn DisLexIa?! My bad! Sorry about that!
The glare would happen in that direction around 9ish in the morning and around 3ish in the PM. This is due to the angle of reflection.
Sort of like having the sun reflect off the window of the car ahead of you.
Doesn't always happen, only at the right time and angle of the sun.
So if you haven't had it happen to you?
More than likely you're not commuting at those times, or at those angles.

 

[GearJunkie88]

Sorry for the delay. I was in Big Bend for a few days. Here's a picture of the hood just before hitting the dirt roads.

 

[Sierra141]

Hood

Sorry for the delay. I was in Big Bend for a few days. Here's a picture of the hood just before hitting the dirt roads.

That looks great, someone mentioned the hood not being close to oem, but let me tell you the factory one is flimsy and thin. Mine flutters at the drive thru carwash when passing thru the dry fans. Considering the great price I think it looks great!

 

[GearJunkie88]

That looks great, someone mentioned the hood not being close to oem, but let me tell you the factory one is flimsy and thin. Mine flutters at the drive thru carwash when passing thru the dry fans. Considering the great price I think it looks great!

This one flutters. So did the stock SR5 hood without the scoop. And I finally got a glimpse of the glare everyone talks about. Driving West at sunset in the desert definitely sent some glare my way. Polarized sunglasses make it tolerable. Still love it despite its shortcomings.

 

[Bodie the Dog]

true wisdom

That's not what I would consider "aftermarket". It is a non-Toyota replacement 10-16 Trail hood panel. The scoop is what identifies the Trail as such vs SR5 and Limited having body graphics. Hence it should be a direct bolt on. But you also would need to source the parts to fill in the front of the "scoop". AND buy a pair of really good sunglasses.

I was only annoyed by how the scoop blocks visibility of the road ahead. But then just this week, my son said, "Dad, isn't the glare off that thing blinding you? What does that thing do?" And he was right. I was squinting, with the glare coming from the scoop.

 

[WEAK_E90]

so fitment quality wise? what would you rank it?

My guess is its not hard to swap over everything but curious how long it took you?

 

[GearJunkie88]

so fitment quality wise? what would you rank it?

My guess is its not hard to swap over everything but curious how long it took you?

Fitment was perfect plug and play. The 4 bolt holes, windshield washer doodads, sound deadener, and the "catch" at the front all lined up perfectly. Total time for removal of old hood and installation of new hood was under an hour. The process is pretty straight forward. Disconnect windshield washer fluid hoses, disconnect shock things, remove 4 bolts and the old hood was off. Plastic clips held the sound deadener pad in place. Reverse the process to install new hood. Took a few minutes to figure out how the "scoop guts" went together but I think that's because we didn't order the right number of rubber and foam gaskets.

I can't really compare it to a real toyota 5th gen scoop hood, but it feels as solid as the factory non-scoop I had. My 4th gen had the scoop and that hood felt more solid. I don't recall it having any flutter at highway speed or at the car wash.

This eBay hood is a viable option for anyone who wants a scoop. You'll save a few bucks vs the toyota brand hood. Probably $100ish.

 

[amheck]

Hey GearJunie, what did you end up paying for everything, if you don't mind me asking? Hood, paint, and then I guess there's some plastic parts for the actual scoop? Would you say about a grand all said and done?

 

[Rhino13]

Go get it dirty, and you won’t have any glare problems.