Air filter changed

[dawudih]

FYI, I just picked up an oem Toyota air filter for my 2015 Trail & noticed it was about half the depth of the previous ones I've used. The model number is the same (YZZ....) & the parts guy verified this. He went in the back & said there was a memo stating Toyota went from 35mm to 20mm depth. Just found it interesting is all.

 

[97BlackAckCL]

That's dumb

 

[chubbena]

What is the depth of the new one?
The OEM I bought on amazon has exact dimension as the one on my 4runner.

 

[DallasTRDPro]

FYI, I just picked up an oem Toyota air filter for my 2015 Trail & noticed it was about half the depth of the previous ones I've used. The model number is the same (YZZ....) & the parts guy verified this. He went in the back & said there was a memo stating Toyota went from 35mm to 20mm depth. Just found it interesting is all.

Just found this out yesterday as well.

 

[dawudih]

Just found this out yesterday as well.

I think it was about $10 cheaper than the old version at least. $18 if I remember.

 

[ElectroBoy]

FYI, I just picked up an oem Toyota air filter for my 2015 Trail & noticed it was about half the depth of the previous ones I've used. The model number is the same (YZZ....) & the parts guy verified this. He went in the back & said there was a memo stating Toyota went from 35mm to 20mm depth. Just found it interesting is all.

That’s strange.
You’re referring to the engine air filter, not the cabin air filter, right?

The old engine air filter version with the foam pre-filter (as delivered on a new vehicle P/N 17801-38051) is about 55mm if you measure from the rubber gasket to the end of the foam. The other version without the foam (US P/N 17801-YZZ13) is about 5mm shorter.

Do you have a photo of yours?

 

[1jzgte]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVA4RYql9KU

according to this video by Toyota master tech, the yzz model number is designated to the economy line of parts. For example, this forum complains about an inferior brake pad that Toyota sells with the xxYZZxx part number.

 

[lewdog998]

I had previously changed my filter, so on the last service they gave me the air filter they were going to put in....

And it does not have the pre-filter.

 

[1000MPH]

The moral of the story: Don’t buy the filter the parts counter guy tells you to get. Do your research and buy the OE.
Air Intake Filter. Toyota 4Runner | Toyota

 

[jp.vegas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVA4RYql9KU

according to this video by Toyota master tech, the yzz model number is designated to the economy line of parts. For example, this forum complains about an inferior brake pad that Toyota sells with the xxYZZxx part number.

That makes sense. They're for the same applications but clearly, at least with the air filter, it's an inferior part (without the foam pre filter).

 

[1jzgte]

dont stress too much. I feel like the pre foam filter is just to absorb and reduce some of the air filter noises.

 

[TRD PANTHER]

Or just go with the TRD filter. I had one in my 3rd gen for 17 years. Never had to replace it.
2018 Toyota 4Runner Trd air filter - high flow - PTR4300083 - Genuine Toyota Accessory

 

[MAXISTYLES]

OIL Filter is YZZ

Isn't the OE oil filter part # 04152-YZZAM? So it's inferior? That's the only OE oil filter there is unless you get the TRD one.

 

[ElectroBoy]

Isn't the OE oil filter part # 04152-YZZAM? So it's inferior? That's the only OE oil filter there is unless you get the TRD one.

The YZZ parts aren’t inferior. They’re more of a Toyota low cost budget line, as explained in the video.

As far as I can tell there is only one part number for the 5th Gen oil filter kit:
Part Number: 04152-YZZA5

What I read somewhere about the air filter was that it’s a world standard filter as shipped from Japan. With a foam pre-filter for extra gritty sandy places like the Middle East and Australia, etc.
Americans don’t need it so much to get to the mall. LOL.
Although you can still get it from legit Toyota suppliers online. If you order from Amazon etc you will probably get the non-foam version.

 

[dawudih]

The YZZ parts aren’t inferior. They’re more of a Toyota low cost budget line, as explained in the video.

As far as I can tell there is only one part number for the 5th Gen oil filter kit:
Part Number: 04152-YZZA5

What I read somewhere about the air filter was that it’s a world standard filter as shipped from Japan. With a foam pre-filter for extra gritty sandy places like the Middle East and Australia, etc.
Americans don’t need it so much to get to the mall. LOL.
Although you can still get it from legit Toyota suppliers online. If you order from Amazon etc you will probably get the non-foam version.

Well the others I bought in the past were all folded paper; no foam. This one I bought last week is about half the depth of the previous air filters. I can't stand Don McGill Toyota. Really all dealerships I've dealt with.

 

[ElectroBoy]

Well the others I bought in the past were all folded paper; no foam. This one I bought last week is about half the depth of the previous air filters. I can't stand Don McGill Toyota. Really all dealerships I've dealt with.

The last time I searched and found the foam pre-filter version 17801-38051 at Conicelli Toyota online. They stock both part numbers.
Air Intake Filter. 2018 Toyota 4Runner | Conicelli Toyota, Springfield PA

I bought several plus other items to get over the dollar amount for free shipping.

 

[Chubbypanda]

Time to rinse and reuse? LoL

 

[SlvrRnnR]

At the dealership today for oil and etc... knowledgable parts guy said the paper air filter part number had been updated (for the standard paper filter for our 5th gen 4r's) - maybe they made it thinner to cover the TRD CAI also?

The TRD oiled filter and cleaning/oil kit has been discontinued, he confirmed this also.

No update from Toyota as what replaces it? I know you can use the paper one or K&N but I'll clean/oil and reuse mine as long as possible (I also have a new backup one) - and if I can't get Toyota's clean/oil kit anymore I'm sure the K&N stuff is pretty close to the same.

Strange they would discontinue it without an update? Even if there's an engine change coming down the pipeline still should be able to get specific parts.

And also as mentioned the paper filter from the factory does have an extra small layer of foam for specific geos. Helpful in sandy high dust areas.

 

[03_4x4Runner]

What is the depth of the new one?
The OEM I bought on amazon has exact dimension as the one on my 4runner.

I just got my OEM filter on Amazon today and it is the old style with the foam filter.

Amazon.com: Genuine Toyota - FJ CRUISER AIR FILTER NEW - 17801-38051: Automotive

 

[DAW89446]

Hmmm ... seems to be a lot of anxiety about the air filter. When I replaced the filter the first time on my ‘18 late last year (bought the truck used in July, 2019), I bought one at my local Carquest and bought their Carquest “blue box” filter. I let the counter person look it up by application and I got a nice, thick filter with the foam rubber.