Airdown - 285 on Stock Wheels

KingSuper

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This question is for people running 285/75/r16 on stock 3rd gen wheels, who actually off road their rigs. Have you experienced any issues when airing down this wheel/tire combo? What PSI do you drop down to for wheeling? ever lose a bead wheeling on this combo?

I want to run ~33"s on stock wheels but do not want to worry too much about losing a bead. Any experience on this wheel tire combo in the dirt would be greatly appreciated.


P.S. - I did do a modified search for this question and while there are many threads about 285s on stock wheels, nothing I found delved deep into air down experiences. Thanks guys (and gals).
 
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Ive ran as low as 10psi on 285's and my 305's. I usually go to 15psi. I notice not much of a larger footprint till its at least under 20psi. I have not last a bead ever. Smaller wheels have less chance of popping off so a stock wheel is good for airing down.
 
I air down a lot for snow wheeling and start at 15psi, and have gone as low as 8psi without beadlocks with no issue. Be smart and have good sidewalls and you'll be fine.
 
Appreciate the input guys. I figured airing down may be a problem since our stock wheels fall below the minimum width recommended for tires of this size. Glad to hear we can air em down pretty low.

Any one else with experience please chime in. Thanks again.
 
Losing your bead isn't really that big of a deal either. Jack up the tire, spread the tire with your hands, and turn on your compressor. Takes like 5-15 mins max.
 
Losing your bead isn't really that big of a deal either. Jack up the tire, spread the tire with your hands, and turn on your compressor. Takes like 5-15 mins max.

Curious how you spread the tire with your hands when you can't hold onto the bead of the tire. What do you hold onto to pull it apart?
 
i have never run a 16" wheels so i have no experiance with them.

that being said i have run plenty of 15s and 17s, in widths from 6"-10" and aired down plenty in all different types of terrain and driving conditions.

i have run as low as 4psi and never lost a bead. this topic has just as much if not more to do with driving style and conditions than it does tire size and wheel size. if you tend to be heavier footed then going below 15psi you can be asking for trouble. i have always been very cautious and thought full when lower than 12-14 psi. and i will only drop to the single digits in snow and when i do i keep my speeds under 20mph even no the flat and strait.

the lower you go the more side wall flex you get -obviously, and hence the advantages of lowering tire pressure. but with that comes greater risk of the vehicles latteral motion in snow mud or rocks to force the tire off the wheel. also the lower the pressure the easier it is for foreign debris to get into the bead of the tire -i dont like to go much lower than 10psi or so unless im in snow -mud and rocks can be a PITA to clean out of a wheel.

another thing that will greatly affect this is the weight of your vehicle. -in my 85 pick up i run 5 psi in the front and 4 psi in the rear. there is no weight in that truck and it works great(C rated tires). but when i would take my 97 4runner out i would only drop it down to about 12 psi(i got more flex at 12 psi in it than i did with 5 psi in the pickup), but it weights about 5700lbs on a wheeling trip, and i was a little more aggressive wheeling it.

so knowing how you are going to use your truck, ie what kind of conditions you are talking about sand snow mud rocks etc will help, and also are you planning on towing a trailer, or being fully loaded -5 people and gear or empty and are weighed down by armor -skids, sliders etc. it all makes a difference. a heavier truck wont need as much air removed and having more air can actually sometimes be better for things all around -wheels and tires.

but in the end its gonna come down to how comfortable you feel. i will say this though. i have driven home probably ~50mi on 12psi before and while yes it was not a fun drive and it was very sloppy i did it just fine as long as i stayed under 60mph(yes yes i know i shouldnt have gone that fast -shut up). just saying its better than going too low and losing a bead with no means to reseat it. if you dont feel going lower than 18psi is safe, then even at 18 you will have much much noticeable gains over your 35+psi hwy DD pressures.
 
i have never run a 16" wheels so i have no experiance with them.

that being said i have run plenty of 15s and 17s, in widths from 6"-10" and aired down plenty in all different types of terrain and driving conditions.

i have run as low as 4psi and never lost a bead. this topic has just as much if not more to do with driving style and conditions than it does tire size and wheel size. if you tend to be heavier footed then going below 15psi you can be asking for trouble. i have always been very cautious and thought full when lower than 12-14 psi. and i will only drop to the single digits in snow and when i do i keep my speeds under 20mph even no the flat and strait.

the lower you go the more side wall flex you get -obviously, and hence the advantages of lowering tire pressure. but with that comes greater risk of the vehicles latteral motion in snow mud or rocks to force the tire off the wheel. also the lower the pressure the easier it is for foreign debris to get into the bead of the tire -i dont like to go much lower than 10psi or so unless im in snow -mud and rocks can be a PITA to clean out of a wheel.

another thing that will greatly affect this is the weight of your vehicle. -in my 85 pick up i run 5 psi in the front and 4 psi in the rear. there is no weight in that truck and it works great(C rated tires). but when i would take my 97 4runner out i would only drop it down to about 12 psi(i got more flex at 12 psi in it than i did with 5 psi in the pickup), but it weights about 5700lbs on a wheeling trip, and i was a little more aggressive wheeling it.

so knowing how you are going to use your truck, ie what kind of conditions you are talking about sand snow mud rocks etc will help, and also are you planning on towing a trailer, or being fully loaded -5 people and gear or empty and are weighed down by armor -skids, sliders etc. it all makes a difference. a heavier truck wont need as much air removed and having more air can actually sometimes be better for things all around -wheels and tires.

but in the end its gonna come down to how comfortable you feel. i will say this though. i have driven home probably ~50mi on 12psi before and while yes it was not a fun drive and it was very sloppy i did it just fine as long as i stayed under 60mph(yes yes i know i shouldnt have gone that fast -shut up). just saying its better than going too low and losing a bead with no means to reseat it. if you dont feel going lower than 18psi is safe, then even at 18 you will have much much noticeable gains over your 35+psi hwy DD pressures.

There is every answer you need OP... Awesome post
 
285/75/r16's it is then. :banana:
My understanding is that it's best to go with spacers for these bad boys, 1/4 inch should do, yes? Any recommendations on these spacers? Does it not really matter all that much for the 1/4 inchers as opposed to the 1 1/4s?
 
285/75/r16's it is then. :banana:
My understanding is that it's best to go with spacers for these bad boys, 1/4 inch should do, yes? Any recommendations on these spacers? Does it not really matter all that much for the 1/4 inchers as opposed to the 1 1/4s?

One your last post just wanted to add that a smaller width rim has LESS chance of popping the bead. The wider the rim the easier to pop it. Its why pure offroad rig guys call them skinny 16" wheels the "cheap beadlock".

The 285's may clear. I went with a 1.25 spidertrax and they helped a lot. It also clears my wider 305's I run now.
 
So no it wouldn't clear with 285s you will hit your UCA
That is not always true. I didn't have any issues clearing my UCA with 285/75/16 Kelly Safari TSR's on stock 16' rims but when I put on my Cooper ST max 285's recently they did not clear my UCA's. Depends on the tire.
 
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My budget has narrowed down the list for me :mmph:

I think I know which of the two tires below I'm going with, but how about you?

Any input is greatly appreciated

Unless your tires are so bald they're unsafe I would keep saving my pennies until a better tire is in your budget.

Your life, and all of your passengers lives, quite literally are riding on them. When I cheaped out on tires I had two flats on the freeway in 2 months- one being a blowout at about 60mph. Could be a fluke, probably was, but I have yet to have a Duratrac let me down. /dramaqueenpost

I've never heard of the other brand, but I like my Kenda MTB tires... lol
 
My budget has narrowed down the list for me :mmph:

I think I know which of the two tires below I'm going with, but how about you?

4 Kenda Klever M T KR29 Mud Tires 285 75R16 285 75 16 75R R16 2857516 | eBay

4 Nankang Mudstar Radial MT Mud Tires 285 75R16 285 75 16 2857516 75R R16 | eBay


Any input is greatly appreciated
Check out the Treadwright Guard Dogs. $135/ tire with free shipping if you ask for it. I had them on my last truck and loved 'em! Can't beat $540 for 4 tires :D
 
My budget has narrowed down the list for me :mmph:

I think I know which of the two tires below I'm going with, but how about you?

4 Kenda Klever M T KR29 Mud Tires 285 75R16 285 75 16 75R R16 2857516 | eBay

4 Nankang Mudstar Radial MT Mud Tires 285 75R16 285 75 16 2857516 75R R16 | eBay

Any input is greatly appreciated

Horrible price on those Nankangs. They're $150 each at Discount Tire, and for spending $75 less you'll get Discount's warranty and free rotation.

Those are super aggressive, too, do you need that much tire? Are you dailying the truck or is it just a trail rig?
 
Horrible price on those Nankangs. They're $150 each at Discount Tire, and for spending $75 less you'll get Discount's warranty and free rotation.

Those are super aggressive, too, do you need that much tire? Are you dailying the truck or is it just a trail rig?

I daily drive, but also hit some hard ass trails every few weekends. To some its worth having the aggressive tire.
 
I daily drive, but also hit some hard ass trails every few weekends. To some its worth having the aggressive tire.

Me too :D. But I think some guys aren't always ready for the noise and mileage hit, and those Nankangs look like they'll bring a bucket of both.
 
Me too :D. But I think some guys aren't always ready for the noise and mileage hit, and those Nankangs look like they'll bring a bucket of both.

LOL, that is true. Just got 19mpg on a 600 mile round trip all flat highway on my 305's.

This past weekend did 250 miles trip up mountain passes and crazy 4 mile trail. Only got 17mpg. But pretty happy with it so far.
 
Check out the Treadwright Guard Dogs. $135/ tire with free shipping if you ask for it. I had them on my last truck and loved 'em! Can't beat $540 for 4 tires :D

Dang, I already pulled the trigger on the Kendas. People online talk a lot of smack on the Treadwrights, claiming that they would never ride on retreads/remolds blah blah blah so I never really considered them. I need more opinions from ppl who have actually used them like yourself, not online parroting! Perhaps on the next go I'll look into the Treadwrights. Thanks for the input though :biggrin1:

Horrible price on those Nankangs. They're $150 each at Discount Tire, and for spending $75 less you'll get Discount's warranty and free rotation.

Those are super aggressive, too, do you need that much tire? Are you dailying the truck or is it just a trail rig?

I have a real cheap commuter (99 Sentra) I daily. This is supposed to be my camp/adventure truck. Still though, living in L.A. adventure can be hundreds of highway miles away sometimes haha.
 

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