Another FJ setup installed

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I know how much research and reading I did before this project, so hopefully this will help some others out there. I told a few people I would post my results/thoughts on the install, so here it goes:

Parts used: FJ coils front and rear, FJ bilsteins in front, left stock 4runner rear shocks, Daystar 1.25" top-out spacer kit (KT09117BK)
New Tires: General Grabber AT2 P265/70R17

Results: Overall I was just wanting a little lift, no rake, and a beefier look. I think the final results turned out well. Tires are a big help. If I had to change anything, I might prefer just 0.5" or 1" extra in the rear. As it is now, the measurements I have taken on flat ground indicate front and rear are about identical. Pictures from different angles or on any incline can always be deceiving.

I had some rubbing after the new tires, but this was solved easily by moving the fenders forward an inch or so per JA's instructions on his website.

Pre-Install: I rented the usual spring compressor from Autozone and had no problems at all with hand tools on my living room floor compressing the FJ coilovers just enough to relieve pressure on the top plate. The top plate had to be removed in order to swap out the longer bolts that came with the Daystar 1.25" leveling kit. Freeing the old press-fit bolts and installing the new ones required a deep-well socket and a hammer, which took some figuring out, but ended up working easily. Again, JA's write-up was a help.

Install: I was lucky enough to find a really nice guy on the FJ Forums that not only sold me his old FJ equipment for $50, but also help me with the install. I owe him big time. I volunteered to help him on his next FJ project, but from the looks of his rig, there may not be much more he can do! It is very impressive. Look him up if you care to (name is Landy).

The installation time sped up tremendously after we did the front passenger side. That first bit of the installation took probably 1.5 - 2 hrs. However, we then cruised through the driver side in less than an hour. We swapped the rear springs in maybe 30 minutes total. He had some nice jack stand combo's from Tractor Supply Company that made the lifting portion very fast, I will have to buy a set for myself. Of the entire install, the only portion that gave us trouble was forcing the lower control arm down far enough to wedge in the bottom end of the new longer strut and get the lower bolt through. Key items included: using the spring compressor again to help get that extra bit of push, disconnecting the ABS cable bracket on the UCA to prevent damage, rubber mallet to force several areas. Having two people wrenching at the same time speeds things up considerably.

If anyone wants more details on the install feel free to ask. I know I appreciated every last tip I could read up on before doing it.

Now for some photos, right?

Installation in progress:
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After the FJ suspension and Daystar spacers:

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It was very sunny/bright, so capturing the tires against the wheel wells was not so great, but here is the final result with tires installed and a much-needed alignment:

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Now just trying to decide if I want to remove the running boards or not ;) I like the look but not sure about the lack of a step...
 
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Thanks Chris. Yes, I do think it was an improvement. I was kind of befuddled when people on here said that theirs rode firmer but better. That does seem to be the case. I think the big difference is that it bounces up and down less over bumps, it settles much faster. Still feels solid and not too bumpy. Tires aren't noisy either, which I am glad to discover.
 
Looking great, it'd saved all of us a ton of work if they'd just have used these from the factory. After talking to Chris, I've not seen anyone who didn't prefer the ride with the FJ springs over stock. Very nice and level, tires make it look SO much better!
 
im a comp sci major myself, 2007 from hamilton college in upstate ny though.

Thanks for the thread! I will definitely be referencing this when I get around to it. Im waiting for my tires to wear a little more but I definitely want to get the suspension on before I need new rubber so I can go bigger.

Great work!

How's the body roll? I love the poly bushings I put it and am wondering if I'll be "negating" them with these. I like my better cornering ability right now
 
Wow man looks VERY nice. I have the same setup that is about to be installed and I am looking for tires and was getting the BFG TA KO's but looking at those General Grabbers they look pretty nice. I do mostly on road and some off road and now I might look into those tires.

How are you liking the setup and how are the tires??
 
Can you use a Toytec 3"/2" or a Daystar 2.5"/1.5" leveling kit with the FJ Springs for additional lift or is that too much stress on the shocks and CVs? I'm debating on whether to get:

1) Toytec "Best Seller" 3" front spacers and 2" Superflex coils for the rear
2) FJ Coils and Daystar 2.5"/1.5" leveling kit

I'm not going to upgrade my shocks just yet... If the FJ/spacer combo is possible, I would rather go with it since I would be upgrading the front coils along with the rear.

Edit: I found someone using the Daystar with the FJ Springs. Looked great
 
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I have the 09 TE with factory Bilsteins, does anyone know if these are the same as the FJC or would I be better off keeping them and just going with a spacer kit?
 
How's the body roll? I love the poly bushings I put it and am wondering if I'll be "negating" them with these. I like my better cornering ability right now

I haven't noticed any improvement in body roll side to side. Definitely less nose-dive when braking, though.

Wow man looks VERY nice. I have the same setup that is about to be installed and I am looking for tires and was getting the BFG TA KO's but looking at those General Grabbers they look pretty nice. I do mostly on road and some off road and now I might look into those tires.

How are you liking the setup and how are the tires??

Thanks, man. I was also considering the BFG's. Obviously they are hugely popular and proven. In the end I went with the Generals because of the lower price and being able to get the lighter P-rated tire for mileage sake. I couldn't quite justify the cost when I drive mostly on-road. With a 60k mile warranty and a lot of good reviews I took the plunge.

I took the 4Runner on a camping trip this past weekend and logged some miles at 70+ mph, loaded full of gear and 2 bikes on the back. I gotta say I am surprised how quiet they are. I expected more of a hum, but it is barely audible. On some road surfaces you can feel the tread a little more than the stock tires, but it has not been bad at all. I think the ride comfort sacrifice has been negligible.

Shipped from Tire Rack they were just $622 for 4. I took them to a local NTB that was on Tire Rack's list of recommended installers for mounting and balance. If you bring along your Tire Rack invoice and let them know it was a referral from Tire Rack there is a big discount. I paid about $15 per wheel (skipped the TPMS service).
 
I haven't noticed any improvement in body roll side to side. Definitely less nose-dive when braking, though.



Thanks, man. I was also considering the BFG's. Obviously they are hugely popular and proven. In the end I went with the Generals because of the lower price and being able to get the lighter P-rated tire for mileage sake. I couldn't quite justify the cost when I drive mostly on-road. With a 60k mile warranty and a lot of good reviews I took the plunge.

I took the 4Runner on a camping trip this past weekend and logged some miles at 70+ mph, loaded full of gear and 2 bikes on the back. I gotta say I am surprised how quiet they are. I expected more of a hum, but it is barely audible. On some road surfaces you can feel the tread a little more than the stock tires, but it has not been bad at all. I think the ride comfort sacrifice has been negligible.

Shipped from Tire Rack they were just $622 for 4. I took them to a local NTB that was on Tire Rack's list of recommended installers for mounting and balance. If you bring along your Tire Rack invoice and let them know it was a referral from Tire Rack there is a big discount. I paid about $15 per wheel (skipped the TPMS service).


I am in the same boat as you. My 4Runner is my daily driver and I mostly do on road but do some off road. I can get the BFGs for $163 out the door from Discount Tire but I can also go with the General Grabbers from Tire Rack for $140. That is roughly about $100 difference in price. I am seriously considering going with the General's. Mine is silver just like yours and I will have the same suspension setup as yours. It really gives me a guide to go by when seeing mine fully completed with the AT tires and lift.

What are your next plans for it?
 
I am in the same boat as you. My 4Runner is my daily driver and I mostly do on road but do some off road. I can get the BFGs for $163 out the door from Discount Tire but I can also go with the General Grabbers from Tire Rack for $140. That is roughly about $100 difference in price. I am seriously considering going with the General's. Mine is silver just like yours and I will have the same suspension setup as yours. It really gives me a guide to go by when seeing mine fully completed with the AT tires and lift.

What are your next plans for it?

Glad I could help with some photos. I know I was scrounging these boards a lot before I pulled the trigger on this project. If you want, I can take a few better pictures that might give you more of an idea of the look of the tires and email them to you. That is a good price you found for the BFG's. Everywhere I looked had them for either ~$180 (load range C) or ~$200 (load range E).

As far as my next plans, I've thought about Spidertrax, removing running boards, the Toyota front skid plate, and some random electronic projects (wire map lights to come on with dome lights, install a decent sized inverter, etc). Also, after the trip this weekend I have considered trying to put a small spacer in the rear to prevent the sagging I got when loaded up. The 1" Toytec might work well, I just don't want to end up with too much rake again, haha. The rear suspension is so easy to work on, though, that it wouldn't be hard to try out. I would also like to track down some rear Bilsteins from an FJC to match the front ones I got. I'm not sure if I would feel the difference, but I like the uniformity.
 
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Glad I could help with some photos. I know I was scrounging these boards a lot before I pulled the trigger on this project. If you want, I can take a few better pictures that might give you more of an idea of the look of the tires and email them to you. That is a good price you found for the BFG's. Everywhere I looked had them for either ~$180 (load range C) or ~$200 (load range E).

As far as my next plans, I've thought about Spidertrax, removing running boards, the Toyota front skid plate, and some random electronic projects (wire map lights to come on with dome lights, install a decent sized inverter, etc). Also, after the trip this weekend I have considered trying to put a small spacer in the rear to prevent the sagging I got when loaded up. The 1" Toytec might work well, I just don't want to end up with too much rake again, haha. The rear suspension is so easy to work on, though, that it wouldn't be hard to try out. I would also like to track down some rear Bilsteins from an FJC to match the front ones I got. I'm not sure if I would feel the difference, but I like the uniformity.

Sure man I would love to see more pics! Do you want to post them here or would you like my email address so you can fwd some to me?
 

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