Any tuners out there that can tune a Magnuson Setup?

[Havik]

Hi all. First post here. I have a magnuson kit on my truck along with a urd y pipe a magnaflow catback and cold air intake. I was looking for a new tune for my truck and contacted Gadget at URD. He set me up with a Ucon EMS. Yes it is a bit pricey however my truck runs significantly better then it did on the canned magnuson tune. I have no regrets going this direction. Just food for thought.. no dyno tuning needed either however I did do a remote tuning session with Itronix the maker of the Ucon to get everything squared away.

So they have a UCON for the 5th gen 4Runner? I don't see that listed on their website. I emailed them asking about the tune, they haven't responded yet. I guess I will give them a call. Thanks.

 

[Havik]

There is a high performance shop in Fillmore, Ca that does custom tunes and work called Full Throttle Kustoms. They have a Mustang dyno and are a very reputable shop. I had a Magnuson on my SS Camaro and they did a full engine build. They can help you select your pulley size, injectors, set afr’s, fuel delivery and more. They’re not too far from where you live. Ray, is a master tuner and use to do a lot of imports besides muscle cars and Vettes. He helped me out on my old 2001 TRD supercharged 4Runner also.

If they can tune the 5th gen 4Runner, that would be my ideal choice. They aren't too far from me and a custom tune on a dyno is far better then a tune you get via email based loosely on the mods you have.

 

[Stormy246]

So they have a UCON for the 5th gen 4Runner? I don't see that listed on their website. I emailed them asking about the tune, they haven't responded yet. I guess I will give them a call. Thanks.

Yup. I didn’t realize they did at first as it is not on their site, but I can tell you that our engine will not need the cam gears installed. It is just the install of the Ucon which is simple if you are the handy type. Also will need to run the colder thermostat that is supplied with the kit. I will say that the truck runs smoother at idle as well as through out the rpm range. I definitely feel like it picked up some power too. The best part of the Ucon is that it has a guardian mode that will put the engine into limp mode in case any abnormalities occur.

 

[Havik]

Yup. I didn’t realize they did at first as it is not on their site, but I can tell you that our engine will not need the cam gears installed. It is just the install of the Ucon which is simple if you are the handy type. Also will need to run the colder thermostat that is supplied with the kit. I will say that the truck runs smoother at idle as well as through out the rpm range. I definitely feel like it picked up some power too. The best part of the Ucon is that it has a guardian mode that will put the engine into limp mode in case any abnormalities occur.

Just got off the phone with URD. They do have the UCON EMS for the 5th gen, but it won't be available for sale for another 2 to 3 weeks. They've only let a few kits out for testing for now. He put me on the list to get one when they are made available. Thanks for letting me know.

 

[87pony]

Any follow up on this??

 

[Dillusion]

HPTuners still not released for 4R

 

[Havik]

I have sort of an update: Magnuson doesn't not provide any tunes for anything other than a stock vehicle. I was told they had tunes for basic things like an intake or cat-back. They do not. I spent a lot of time with them on the phone and asked a lot of questions. They do not tune for anything other than stock. All the people saying they have tunes for anything other than stock are wrong.

On another note, I spoke with "Gadget" from URD. He says that with the Magnuson setup (using the stock injectors) that the fuel system is maxed out and didn't recommend installing the intake until I was able to upgrade the fuel system. He said he would be able to send me the UCON system even though they don't have it on their site. So if you are interested in the UCON setup, give them a call. I have not yet ordered one, so I can't say anything about it.

I can tell you that my wideband O2 sensor has never shown my truck running lean under boost so I don't think there is anything to worry about.

 

[Charlievee]

I have sort of an update: Magnuson doesn't not provide any tunes for anything other than a stock vehicle. I was told they had tunes for basic things like an intake or cat-back. They do not. I spent a lot of time with them on the phone and asked a lot of questions. They do not tune for anything other than stock. All the people saying they have tunes for anything other than stock are wrong.

On another note, I spoke with "Gadget" from URD. He says that with the Magnuson setup (using the stock injectors) that the fuel system is maxed out and didn't recommend installing the intake until I was able to upgrade the fuel system. He said he would be able to send me the UCON system even though they don't have it on their site. So if you are interested in the UCON setup, give them a call. I have not yet ordered one, so I can't say anything about it.

I can tell you that my wideband O2 sensor has never shown my truck running lean under boost so I don't think there is anything to worry about.

Part number for larger injectors?

 

[VB.TRD.Pro]

I have sort of an update: Magnuson doesn't not provide any tunes for anything other than a stock vehicle. I was told they had tunes for basic things like an intake or cat-back. They do not. I spent a lot of time with them on the phone and asked a lot of questions. They do not tune for anything other than stock. All the people saying they have tunes for anything other than stock are wrong.

On another note, I spoke with "Gadget" from URD. He says that with the Magnuson setup (using the stock injectors) that the fuel system is maxed out and didn't recommend installing the intake until I was able to upgrade the fuel system. He said he would be able to send me the UCON system even though they don't have it on their site. So if you are interested in the UCON setup, give them a call. I have not yet ordered one, so I can't say anything about it.

I can tell you that my wideband O2 sensor has never shown my truck running lean under boost so I don't think there is anything to worry about.

Does Magnuson request a datalog after installing the SC and let you know what they're seeing in regards to IDC?

Looking at the URD system, it replaces the fuel pump and injectors. Sounds like it isn't as simple as swapping out injectors or can it be as simple as an injector swap?

 

[jackjoachim]

Just curious what type of power numbers are y'all shooting for?

 

[VB.TRD.Pro]

Just curious what type of power numbers are y'all shooting for?

My goals differ from most due to the elevation of 6.2k ft where I live. Folks around here put down 215-220whp on a Dynojet. I'll be happy with 300whp. If a high altitude pulley and tune exists, even better.

 

[Havik]

Part number for larger injectors?

I wish I knew, I haven't found any yet.

Does Magnuson request a datalog after installing the SC and let you know what they're seeing in regards to IDC?

Looking at the URD system, it replaces the fuel pump and injectors. Sounds like it isn't as simple as swapping out injectors or can it be as simple as an injector swap?

No, they don't request anything, nor do they have any other tunes so to them it doesn't matter. Also, they specifically say their tune is ONLY for completely stock setups. They do not support intakes, exhausts, etc.

 

[Charlievee]

I wish I knew, I haven't found any yet.



No, they don't request anything, nor do they have any other tunes so to them it doesn't matter. Also, they specifically say their tune is ONLY for completely stock setups. They do not support intakes, exhausts, etc.

Some eye candy here...
Injectors

 

[jmf_tracy]

My goals differ from most due to the elevation of 6.2k ft where I live. Folks around here put down 215-220whp on a Dynojet. I'll be happy with 300whp. If a high altitude pulley and tune exists, even better.

call Gadget at URD.
He just released his fuel upgrade and tune kit.
Sounds like it might work for you.

 

[Havik]

Some eye candy here...
Injectors

That's great, but you still need a way to tune it. URD's tuner isn't an open tuner. Which means I won't be able to change settings (like different injectors, etc.) with it. So I still need to find a tuner (either a person or a device) that can make custom changes.

 

[jmf_tracy]

That's great, but you still need a way to tune it. URD's tuner isn't an open tuner. Which means I won't be able to change settings (like different injectors, etc.) with it. So I still need to find a tuner (either a person or a device) that can make custom changes.

from what I understand, Gadget can setup the UCON-EMS for different mods or injectors and it is self adjusting from those parameters after that, but no user interface to adjust anything.

 

[Argyle Edison]

Contact Dustin, he is a good guy and will help you out if he can.

D.A.P. Tuning - tuning, automotive performance, engine tuning, engine building

 

[Havik]

from what I understand, Gadget can setup the UCON-EMS for different mods or injectors and it is self adjusting from those parameters after that, but no user interface to adjust anything.

Right, that's what I was told when I called and spoke to Gadget as well. This is going to be a last resort for me. If I can't find a tuner that will allow for changes to things like injectors, fuel pump, timing, etc. then I will have to go with their UCON. Since I'm not in a huge rush, I'm going to continue looking/waiting for now, but if nothing comes up in 2020, then next year at about this time, I will go with the UCON.

 

[jmf_tracy]

Right, that's what I was told when I called and spoke to Gadget as well. This is going to be a last resort for me. If I can't find a tuner that will allow for changes to things like injectors, fuel pump, timing, etc. then I will have to go with their UCON. Since I'm not in a huge rush, I'm going to continue looking/waiting for now, but if nothing comes up in 2020, then next year at about this time, I will go with the UCON.

I went ahead and purchased this package, but still waiting for it to ship.
I'll post up after i receive and install it.

 

[Havik]

I went ahead and purchased this package, but still waiting for it to ship.
I'll post up after i receive and install it.

Yes, please do! I'd love to hear about your experience with it.