Anyone got a pic of BFG KO2 275/70R17 on your 4R without lift?

I have E rated 275s, the only thing I had to do is move the bottom of the fender liners forward a bit and nothing else.

A bunch of pics are here
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/192283-auditechs-adventures-mall-crawlin.html

AudiTech,

How are the E rated vs. the stock limited tires in regards to the stiffness of the ride as well as braking, turning and acceleration due to the increased mass of each tire? I have ordered some Fuel Octane 18x9 with -12 offset. I may have to go with 265 65 R18 size since the wider rim will make the side walls wider than the same tire on a more narrow rim.
 
My 275 load range e KO2 tires at 32 psi ride about the same as the stock 20s at 32 psi. At higher pressure in the KO2 the tires ride worse.
 
AudiTech,

How are the E rated vs. the stock limited tires in regards to the stiffness of the ride as well as braking, turning and acceleration due to the increased mass of each tire? I have ordered some Fuel Octane 18x9 with -12 offset. I may have to go with 265 65 R18 size since the wider rim will make the side walls wider than the same tire on a more narrow rim.

The stock tires have been off since about November (when I put the Blizzak snow tires on) and switch straight to these. So i can't really compare going from OEM tires to these tires but I'll let you know my opinion from stock sized 20s to these. I haven't noticed a reduction is acceleration, this truck is the slowest thing I've ever owned so it's kind of a moot point either way. The calibrated butt dyno doesn't seem to think it's any slower but it's such a fat slug accelerating I honestly don't think it'll matter one way or the other. I personally have lost almost an mpg. Going from from an OEM 20 to an larger 17 I think E rated was the way to go. I've gained over 3 inches of sidewall so I appreciate that the stiff sidewall doesn't make it feel like jello. The handling is slightly improved (again, over Blizzak snow tires), I'm impressed with the dry pavement braking of the K02's, it is MUCH better than the Blizzaks. I feel like small stuff in the road, road joints, uneven pavement has a harsher feel than the 20's but larger potholes and stuff like that is very much reduced. IMO it kinda feels like every type of impact is brought almost to the same level. A road joint you feel more, a pothole you feel less, both feel relatively similar, neither one is much drama. You can straight up drill a pothole and it feels so minor. I can drive down the highway doing 85-90 (from Denver to Wyoming is straight north with little to no bends through almost nothing with a legal limit of 75 mph) and it's completely smooth, stable, and compliant.

I was reluctant to go with the E's, I wanted to go with the C's based solely on what I read and the having the same concerns you have. I was worried gas milage would tank and the wife would be angry, I was concerned it was ride way to harsh and the wife would hate it, etc. In the end my top priority was fitting the largest tire I could without having to lift it (the only modification I had to make to pulling the front of the fender forward) and I wasn't opposed to the extra durability as I live in the mountains.

If I had to do it over I would go with the E's again. Full disclosure: I've always had small sporty cars lowered on firm suspension with extra power, this was my first truck/SUV, take that for what it's worth when considering my personal opinions. I will say I'm thoroughly impressed with the on road ability of the E rated 275 K02's with the X-REAS suspension in such fat pig of an SUV, even more so when you look how well it does off road. I'm all for E-rated.

On a side note in the snow and ice the Blizzaks are in a whole other class than the K02's. The K02's are good enough for around town and stuff like that but I drive tight twisty steep snow covered mountain passes all winter long in the winter and I will take the Blizzaks over the K02s any day of the week in those conditions.

PS - I've been drinking and made zero attempt to proofread.
 
I have a gravel driveway and they do hold and throw with regularity. I think you will have that problem with either.

I have a gravel driveway as well, but it's really short like 4 car lengths is all, I haven't had them on long enough to notice anything....
 
The stock tires have been off since about November (when I put the Blizzak snow tires on) and switch straight to these. So i can't really compare going from OEM tires to these tires but I'll let you know my opinion from stock sized 20s to these. I haven't noticed a reduction is acceleration, this truck is the slowest thing I've ever owned so it's kind of a moot point either way. The calibrated butt dyno doesn't seem to think it's any slower but it's such a fat slug accelerating I honestly don't think it'll matter one way or the other. I personally have lost almost an mpg. Going from from an OEM 20 to an larger 17 I think E rated was the way to go. I've gained over 3 inches of sidewall so I appreciate that the stiff sidewall doesn't make it feel like jello. The handling is slightly improved (again, over Blizzak snow tires), I'm impressed with the dry pavement braking of the K02's, it is MUCH better than the Blizzaks. I feel like small stuff in the road, road joints, uneven pavement has a harsher feel than the 20's but larger potholes and stuff like that is very much reduced. IMO it kinda feels like every type of impact is brought almost to the same level. A road joint you feel more, a pothole you feel less, both feel relatively similar, neither one is much drama. You can straight up drill a pothole and it feels so minor. I can drive down the highway doing 85-90 (from Denver to Wyoming is straight north with little to no bends through almost nothing with a legal limit of 75 mph) and it's completely smooth, stable, and compliant.

I was reluctant to go with the E's, I wanted to go with the C's based solely on what I read and the having the same concerns you have. I was worried gas milage would tank and the wife would be angry, I was concerned it was ride way to harsh and the wife would hate it, etc. In the end my top priority was fitting the largest tire I could without having to lift it (the only modification I had to make to pulling the front of the fender forward) and I wasn't opposed to the extra durability as I live in the mountains.

If I had to do it over I would go with the E's again. Full disclosure: I've always had small sporty cars lowered on firm suspension with extra power, this was my first truck/SUV, take that for what it's worth when considering my personal opinions. I will say I'm thoroughly impressed with the on road ability of the E rated 275 K02's with the X-REAS suspension in such fat pig of an SUV, even more so when you look how well it does off road. I'm all for E-rated.

On a side note in the snow and ice the Blizzaks are in a whole other class than the K02's. The K02's are good enough for around town and stuff like that but I drive tight twisty steep snow covered mountain passes all winter long in the winter and I will take the Blizzaks over the K02s any day of the week in those conditions.

PS - I've been drinking and made zero attempt to proofread.

AudiTech,

I am coming from a BMW 335i with the BMW Power performance kit, so I definitely know what you mean about our 4Runners being slow as hell and handling like a fat pig. But I love the look and the reliability (hopefully) of my gray limited 4x4. That is why I bought it vs. a Grand Cherokee. The Grand Cherokee drove like a formula 1 car compared to the 4Runner... but every car is a compromise.

Thanks for the info. Now I just wonder about whether I will get major rubbing since I just ordered 18x9 fuel Octane wheels with a -12 offset. I may actually change my wheel order to 17" since there are more 265 series for the 17" wheels (BFG does not make the KO2 in a 265 R18).
 
bumping this up. just ordered a set of fuel wheels and going back n forth on tire size and brand

Hoe,

What size Fuel wheels did you order? I placed an order for the 18x9 Octanes with -12 offset but I am trying to change my order to 17" since the KO2 are only available in 265 series in a 17" wheel size (in case I can't sufficiently solve any rubbing issues with the 275 series).
 
Hoe,

What size Fuel wheels did you order? I placed an order for the 18x9 Octanes with -12 offset but I am trying to change my order to 17" since the KO2 are only available in 265 series in a 17" wheel size (in case I can't sufficiently solve any rubbing issues with the 275 series).

i had a pretty good deal 1k shipped to hawaii for the fuel rotor 17x8.5 but idk what happened. the company charged my cc but then it got deposited back to my card. i only noticed since i never got tracking from the company so i checked my card...idk what happened but my order wasnt processed. it was about a 3 week wait, one week went by u til i noticed.. cancelled the order, waiting another week would drive me nuts. so im currently on a wait list for the scs sr8 wheels in the new white color they made. hopefully i get those

also idk bout these 275s, they are some heavy mofos. my 4runner is 2wd so strictly pavement pounder.
 
I have owned these since the day they were released and must say i am very pleased and impressed ..Actually you cant even notice a loss. But there is once I calculated everything after ...maybe a .5 mpg. Once I broke them in and went in for my 1st scheduled tire rotation they then aired them up to 36psi and that was like night and day and drove away impressed once again. Ive pulled out nails, rocks etc without any problems or worries.

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What size wheels and tires are you running? I just purchased 17x8.5 Fuel Octanes with -5 offset and 4.5 backspace. I hope I can manage to run 275's with only minor modifications to the front wheel well area.
 
What size wheels and tires are you running? I just purchased 17x8.5 Fuel Octanes with -5 offset and 4.5 backspace. I hope I can manage to run 275's with only minor modifications to the front wheel well area.

Your perfect then that's going to look and fit great.
You will only need to take off front mud flaps and undo the three inner front lining bolts or it maybe just two on each side and push the inner liner forward about 1"1/2 - 2" take will give you clearance when turning/cranking your wheels.
And you should be perfect

I have 265/75/17 cause this was the largest size when released same offset/backspace
 
Any Rubbing on 17x8.5 wheel, no backspacing?

I'm planning to run 275/70r17 K02s on Method NVs 17x8.5 w/ 0-offset. Does anyone know if they will rub with NO lift? Since the wheels are about 1.5" wider than factory, it makes me think that I might get some rubbing.

If I have to move back the fender liners that's not a problem, just want to make sure that I don't have to modify too much. I plan on a 2.5" lift eventually, but in the mean time I will keep stock suspension.
 
Just happened to have upgraded on Friday. Havent noticed any rubbing or noise yet.

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Here you go. This was just done last week.
 

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are you guys running spacers on the OEM trail wheels with 275s...these original tires aren't great offroad and i want to upgrade them
 

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