Anyone on fence between 5th gen 22’ or wait for potential madness by Toyota for 2023

[rightyouareken]

All the new Toyota’s have been incredibly lame and dumb. They don’t make cool cars anymore. New land cruiser and tundra suck. The pro will be VERY lame next to any Trx or raptor. The Tacoma sucks hard compared to a diesel bison or gladiator. Toyota makes very mild lame cars now and other companies have improved reliability. I honestly would get a diesel rubi gladiator and never look back instead of my pretty heavily modded 5th gen.

This was my primary motivation for buying my 2020 when I did rather than waiting for a 6th gen. I don't trust Toyota to build a vehicle that most of us would want. They seem to be completely tone deaf on what offroad SUV buyers want. And they seem to innovate at an absolutely snail's pace. Their recent designs almost across the board have been pretty meh, with only a few lucky successes (Lexus LC500, 5th gen 4Runner, maybe the new Camry but even that isn't that special). A lot of their new models have been compromised (3rd gen Tacoma, the new Tundra, the new Supra, the new GT86, etc etc etc).

I completely expect Toyota to follow the new Land Cruiser design ethos for the new 4Runner (more lux, more hybrid, more low hanging plastic body parts) rather than chasing the Bronco and Wrangler like they should be.

 

[daytonaviolet]

I purchased my ‘16 Limited in 2019 with the anticipation of buying a 6th Gen in 2023. But if you got cash to burn .. get what you want now. If it does not happen in 2023, then perhaps 2024.

Either way, I’m enjoying my 5th Gen

 

[CutthroatSlam]

Look at this chart, 2009 (-0.4%) was the only deflationary year we have had since 1955. (Also -0.4%). This year, Apr/May/Jun showed 4.2%/5.0%/5.4% rates. If this continues through the end of the year, do you realize how big of an event would be required to “undo” a 5% or 6% inflationary year? With its compounding nature, inflation never truly or fully gets undone (deflation never lasts more than a flash in the pan).

Hint: anyone pissed that their job gives a flat 3% raise each year won’t be concerned about that 3% losing ground, they’ll be out of a job entirely.

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Observed inflation ^^^ is largely due to auto sector, which will not last.

 

[Unretired]

Redesigned GX interior tell us anything?

Lexus finally updated the 22 GX interior and has buttons, screen, carplay etc.
Think that tells us anything?
At least a couple more years before a redesign of that platform- 24/25 at best?
And I'm thinking the 4R is linked to that timeline as well?
Maybe the 4R the year before the Lexus?