ARB bumper 2014+ release

LawnDart said:
Do you know how a snatch block works? If so you're unable to use one without recovery points.
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Titanpat57 said:
Do you know know your truck already has two recovery points in the front below the bumper?

Maybe not the perfect place, but every extracation is different....plus 3/4's of the people that have a front bumper like that, don't even own a snatch block...or a tree strap...or a piece of chain....
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[MENTION=65614]Antman[/MENTION] is going to be jealous of you two cozying up like this. :boink:
 
Titanpat57 said:
Do you know know your truck already has two recovery points in the front below the bumper?

Maybe not the perfect place, but every extracation is different....plus 3/4's of the people that have a front bumper like that, don't even own a snatch block...or a tree strap...or a piece of chain....
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Arent those tow points? I thought the 4runner didn't have any rated recovery points (besides putting one in the trailer hitch)
 
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First aftermarket bumper to actually reduce ground clearance and increase turning circle. There is so much room behind the grille on these trucks for a winch I just can't fathom why arb feels the need to hang one 12" out in front they way they do.
 
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Because they have crush cans attached to the frame and are designed to work with airbags and vehicle crush zones.

It is a good thing. Ask me how I know that!
 
IggyB said:
Because they have crush cans attached to the frame and are designed to work with airbags and vehicle crush zones.

It is a good thing. Ask me how I know that!
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Airbag sensors are mounted to the frame, not the bumper. The topic of aftermarket bumpers and airbags has been beaten to death here over the years.
There is absolutely nothing that would preclude mounting the winch further back and reducing the front overhang, look at the behind the grille designs from southern style speed, pelfrybilt, budbuilt ect for reference. the crush zones built into the arb are not the reason for the addition front overhang since these aftermarket additions I mention above still manage to make use of the stock bumper - crush zones and all - and allow for a winch without the ungodly overhang.
 
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Jono.ful said:
Airbag sensors are mounted to the frame, not the bumper. The topic of aftermarket bumpers and airbags has been beaten to death here over the years.
There is absolutely nothing that would preclude mounting the winch further back and reducing the front overhang, look at the behind the grille designs from southern style speed, pelfrybilt, budbuilt ect for reference.
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littlezavasaurus said:
Arent those tow points? I thought the 4runner didn't have any rated recovery points (besides putting one in the trailer hitch)
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I'm not sure that anything (aftermarket or otherwise) is "rated". It seems as you put a rating on something someone is trying to exceed it. I've used them (front hooks) several times on recoverys...maybe I'm just lucky though.
 
Titanpat57 said:
I'm not sure that anything (aftermarket or otherwise) is "rated". It seems as you put a rating on something someone is trying to exceed it. I've used them (front hooks) several times on recoverys...maybe I'm just lucky though.
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They seemed to work fine when I got winched out of this mud hole high centered.

...now back to the regularly scheduled prediction and critiquing without there being an actual product out yet thread. :playball:
 

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Jono.ful said:
Airbag sensors are mounted to the frame, not the bumper. The topic of aftermarket bumpers and airbags has been beaten to death here over the years.
There is absolutely nothing that would preclude mounting the winch further back and reducing the front overhang, look at the behind the grille designs from southern style speed, pelfrybilt, budbuilt ect for reference. the crush zones built into the arb are not the reason for the addition front overhang since these aftermarket additions I mention above still manage to make use of the stock bumper - crush zones and all - and allow for a winch without the ungodly overhang.
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The issue is not the location, it's the additional G forces from not having crush zones

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e60ral said:
They are recovery points, but it still seems extremely silly not to add points to the bumper

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ARB sells rated recovery points that bolt onto the frame. The ARB rep I spoke with felt that recovery points welded directly onto the bumper (of any manufacturer) could shear off during an off-angle kinetic recovery.


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CharlestonFisher said:
ARB sells rated recovery points that bolt onto the frame. The ARB rep I spoke with felt that recovery points welded directly onto the bumper (of any manufacturer) could shear off during an off-angle kinetic recovery.


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Not seeing those ARB bolt on recovery points specific for the 4Runner????
 
e60ral said:
The issue is not the location, it's the additional G forces from not having crush zones
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the crush zones may prevent the airbags from deploying in a low speed front end collision, that is all. arb hasn't released and info about what - if any - testing they've done on the subject, or said at up to what speed their bumper will prevent deployment. their marketing department has just come out with the claim that their bumper is airbag compatible, that is all, anything more is just speculation.
other bumpers will not prevent the airbags from going off should the crash produce sufficient g forces to trigger the sensors.
here is a whole bunch more info for the initiated
Shrockworks Bumper Accident Tested at ~30mph!
Shrockworks vs ARB

for me, the advantage of having a crumple zone built into the bumper isn't enough to overcome what I consider to be the horrendous appearance of the arb. If you feel otherwise, by all means, go right ahead and plunk down your dollars.
 
Jono.ful said:
the crush zones may prevent the airbags from deploying in a low speed front end collision, that is all. arb hasn't released and info about what - if any - testing they've done on the subject, or said at up to what speed their bumper will prevent deployment. their marketing department has just come out with the claim that their bumper is airbag compatible, that is all, anything more is just speculation.
other bumpers will not prevent the airbags from going off should the crash produce sufficient g forces to trigger the sensors.
here is a whole bunch more info for the initiated
Shrockworks Bumper Accident Tested at ~30mph!
Shrockworks vs ARB

for me, the advantage of having a crumple zone built into the bumper isn't enough to overcome what I consider to be the horrendous appearance of the arb. If you feel otherwise, by all means, go right ahead and plunk down your dollars.
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The issue with other bumpers isn't that the airbags wouldn't go off, it's that they would go off too easily

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Titanpat57 said:
Do you know know your truck already has two recovery points in the front below the bumper?

Maybe not the perfect place, but every extracation is different....plus 3/4's of the people that have a front bumper like that, don't even own a snatch block...or a tree strap...or a piece of chain....
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Those are tie down points and I've seen them shear when a truck is buried in mud. Recovery points should be inline with the frame.
 
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