ARB Safari Snorkel Owners (Feedback Wanted)

[Xtremluck]

So I've been running my snorkel for just about a month. A couple of weeks ago I was traveling on the highway going about 80mph with a very heavy crosswind and my air ram head popped off. PSA: Don't lose your snorkel head as it's a very hard to find part due to the non standard size (4"). So I wanted to see if others were doing anything in addition to the hose clamp to secure their ram head? I know mine was torqued down pretty snug and I want to obviously avoid the same thing happening again.

Also, wanted to see if you guys opted to seal your air box inspection holes when you did your installation. I know I did but I've started to second guess the decision out of concerns that rain water could gather in there over time with no way out. Looking forward to hearing from you!

 

[LawnDart]

Just snug it down tight, you can always put some double stick tape inside, but I've never needed it and I've got about 30K miles on my snorkel, from Canada down to Baja.

 

[(none)]

When I purchased my last Wrangler, it already had a snorkel installed, 4" inlet. The head on it was held on by a hose clamp, so I don't see why you couldn't.

I'd be interested to hear about how fast snorkel users airfilters are getting dirty. I know mine would get pretty dirty within 10k miles. I ended up installing a syclone "pre filter" on mine. That helped keep most of the debris from getting to the air filter. I know on my 4R with the TRD intake, I was very surprised how clean the airfilter still looks after 20k miles, quite a bit of offroad time and living in a dusty environment.

Snorkel Pre-Cleaner Options - Expedition Portal
Pics were posted in photobucket, so sorry about that.

 

[mrblah]

I put a piece of double sided tape between the head and the tube, for a little bit of added security (just 2 small square pieces, do not block drain canals on the head if you do this). I also cranked the hose clamp down as much as I can.


I had the drain holes plugged initially with silicon, but I have since removed the silicon and left the drain holes open, mainly because the intake box was accumulating alot of dead bugs, and honestly, I got tired of cleaning the box out. I'm hoping that leaving the drain plugs open will solve my dead bug problem (which in theory it should)


I'm not too concerned about river crossings or flooded streets, and water entering those holes, mainly due to these reasons:

1. water is denser than air, it wants to sink.
2. since the intake is pressurized (by the 4 inch opening), air will follow path of least resistance, air and water will want to leave the drain holes, and even in the remote possibility that water enters one drain hole, it will get pushed out of the other drain hole by air pressure.
3. holes are so tiny, there isn't going to be a significant amount of water entering the intake box at any given moment.
4. Lastly, many people who have done river crossings have done so safely without covering the drain holes.


Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong, physics wasn't my strong suit in school.

 

[Xtremluck]

When I purchased my last Wrangler, it already had a snorkel installed, 4" inlet. The head on it was held on by a hose clamp, so I don't see why you couldn't.

I'd be interested to hear about how fast snorkel users airfilters are getting dirty. I know mine would get pretty dirty within 10k miles. I ended up installing a syclone "pre filter" on mine. That helped keep most of the debris from getting to the air filter. I know on my 4R with the TRD intake, I was very surprised how clean the airfilter still looks after 20k miles, quite a bit of offroad time and living in a dusty environment.

Snorkel Pre-Cleaner Options - Expedition Portal
Pics were posted in photobucket, so sorry about that.

Wow wished I posted this before paying a pretty penny to have a ram air head air freighted from Australia. Called ARB USA and they basically told me I was SOL over the phone and never returned my follow up email. Good to know I may have an alternative if this ever happens again.

 

[Xtremluck]

I put a piece of double sided tape between the head and the tube, for a little bit of added security (just 2 small square pieces, do not block drain canals on the head if you do this). I also cranked the hose clamp down as much as I can.


I had the drain holes plugged initially with silicon, but I have since removed the silicon and left the drain holes open, mainly because the intake box was accumulating alot of dead bugs.


I'm not too concerned about river crossings or flooded streets, and water entering those holes, mainly due to these reasons:

1. water is denser than air, it wants to sink.
2. since the intake is pressurized (by the 4 inch opening), air will follow path of least resistance, air and water will want to leave the drain holes, and even in the remote possibility that water enters one drain hole, it will get pushed out of the other drain hole by air pressure.
3. holes are so tiny, there isn't going to be a significant amount of water entering the intake box at any given moment.
4. Lastly, many people who have done river crossings have done so safely without covering the drain holes.


Someone feel free to correct me if I am wrong, physics wasn't my strong suit in school.

Will use some gorilla tape this time around. Thanks for confirming!

I agree with your points on air pressure keeping things out. I'm going to clear out the holes this weekend.

 

[Jono.ful]

Just snug it down tight, you can always put some double stick tape inside, but I've never needed it and I've got about 30K miles on my snorkel, from Canada down to Baja.

They let you into Canada? I'll have to make some calls...

 

[LawnDart]

They let you into Canada? I'll have to make some calls...

No doubt a'boot it, I was in Vancouver for work.

 

[Crikeymike]

You could use some rubber strips, like bicycle tire, but yeah don't block the drain holes. Those air rams are huge and grab a lot of air. They're also kind of slick-on-slick surfaces, so they could come off without too much effort.

When I was younger in Australia, people would steal snorkel heads off other trucks if they lost theirs to save $80-100 from buying a new one.

 

[Xtremluck]

You could use some rubber strips, like bicycle tire, but yeah don't block the drain holes. Those air rams are huge and grab a lot of air. They're also kind of slick-on-slick surfaces, so they could come off without too much effort.

When I was younger in Australia, people would steal snorkel heads off other trucks if they lost theirs to save $80-100 from buying a new one.

Snorkel on snorkel violence! :bolt:

 

[gm350reratliff]

I left the drain holes partially open, I closed off about 50% of the holes. I still want the ability for water to drain out but I want to minimize the water getting in should we find ourselves crossing water that deep.

On my 4th gen the air box is completely different and I did seal up all the holes, which weren't low spots anyway. I do get some water in if it's raining or especially if it's snowing so I'm probably going to change the whole air intake system to one that will allow some of that to drain. No problems with deep water crossings though.

As for the snorkel heads, I haven't had any issues with them coming off and we've been in some good headwinds but I could see where that could be a problem. I can also see where theft of the head could be an issure so I might steal the double sided tape idea just for that. I've also thought about making a stainless steel or aluminum sleeve to drop in the top of the snorkel to prevent the plastic from caving or collapsing on itself.

 

[Hltoppr]

I sealed my drain holes. Running an 80 series Land Cruiser pre-filter head modified to fit the larger ARB snorkel body.

Works great, with no drop in mileage or sensor issues. (But then again, my rig is relatively light, and I'm a conservative driver.)

-H-

 

[gm350reratliff]

I sealed my drain holes. Running an 80 series Land Cruiser pre-filter head modified to fit the larger ARB snorkel body.

Works great, with no drop in mileage or sensor issues. (But then again, my rig is relatively light, and I'm a conservative driver.)

-H-

Got any pics of that head?

 

[08runnertjb]

I'm interested to hear long term affects of ram air snorkel head and snow and rain, like we get much of in the East Coast most months. I have a Safari snorkel sitting in my garage and I'm waiting to see if what I'm getting myself into and if the install is worth it.



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[gm350reratliff]

I'm interested to hear long term affects of ram air snorkel head and snow and rain, like we get much of in the East Coast most months. I have a Safari snorkel sitting in my garage and I'm waiting to see if what I'm getting myself into and if the install is worth it.



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A couple weeks after installing the snorkel on our 5th gen my wife drove from NM to ND and back pretty much in heavy rain both ways. I had thoroughly cleaned the airbox when I installed the snorkel. When she returned I popped open the airbox and was impressed to see that only a very small amount of water had made its way into the airbox but had already dried. Based on that, I would say that the snorkel head does a pretty good job of separating the water out of the air stream. This is also the case with the china knock-off 80 series snorkel on my 4th gen, although sometimes a little water accumulates in the air tube because there is no way for it to drain.

I haven't had the 5th gen snorkel in a snow storm yet but I do know that I have to turn the head around on my 4th gen in a snow storm because it can't separate the snow and the intake tube will fill with snow and water if I don't. I guessing it'll be the same for the 5th gen snorkel.

 

[LawnDart]

I'm interested to hear long term affects of ram air snorkel head and snow and rain, like we get much of in the East Coast most months. I have a Safari snorkel sitting in my garage and I'm waiting to see if what I'm getting myself into and if the install is worth it.



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What do you want to know? I've had this on the 5th gen since the prototype was 3D printed.

My airbox has stayed super dry even in almost monsoon like rains going through the Mojave from Vegas to LA, in heavy snow here in the PNW.

This is a set it and forget it kind of upgrade.

 

[Hltoppr]

Got any pics of that head?

Here you go.

-H-

 

[gm350reratliff]

Here you go.

-H-

Thanks!

 

[08runnertjb]

What do you want to know? I've had this on the 5th gen since the prototype was 3D printed.

My airbox has stayed super dry even in almost monsoon like rains going through the Mojave from Vegas to LA, in heavy snow here in the PNW.

This is a set it and forget it kind of upgrade.

You answered it. Thanks.

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[empty403]

I'm interested to hear long term affects of ram air snorkel head and snow and rain, like we get much of in the East Coast most months. I have a Safari snorkel sitting in my garage and I'm waiting to see if what I'm getting myself into and if the install is worth it.

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A bit late but get a self-ejecting precleaner and you won't have any issues with rain, snow, bugs, leaves, driving last in dusty conditions, carwashes, etc. Some rain water will get into the snorkel but will rarely make it into the airbox. If you remove the head or reach into the snorkel via the intake box, you'll feel some water from rain. the bottom of the snorkel sits lower than the hole to the airbox so it would need to collect a significant amount of water to overflow into the airbox. If you were parked and the wind was blowing rain water directly at your snorkel head, it could possibly fill up.