Are wheel spacers SAFE??

mario4r

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When to install new tires I had ordered a lift a couple days before I told the tire guy if they could put the spacers since they were going to mount the new tires.. He said they cant do it because spacers are dangerous a wheel could fall out or it could vibrate or affect the truck in the long run..

Is this true??
How long before you check on your spacers to see if they are well bolted on??

Sorry im new to spacers..:thanks:
 
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Check them during every tire rotation. Also perform annual removal and cleaning of the threads and reapplication of loctite. If you can do that, wheel spacer failure is very unlikely provided you purchase a quality set.
 
I wanted to get some spidertrax but the dudes at 4wp showed me pics and told me horror stories. Told me bout them coming off while driving and I wasn't about to put those on just to worry about that.

On another note I've seen a lot of people on here use them and haven't had issues. Almost makes me still want to go out and buy some.

Probably just made it more confusing for you, sorry.

Chris
 
Thats exactly what they told me too.. after that i said it looks good the way it is without spacers..lol I might return them and wait to buy some better offset wheels..
 
My experience didn't end up being that great and eventually took them off (pics in my thread).. Though they did give a nice stance
Also watch out for the front OEM studs as they're shorter than rears.

Forget any of the cheap s**t unless ur planning for a good rim flyby shot on the highway..
 
My experience didn't end up being that great and eventually took them off (pics in my thread).. Though they did give a nice stance
Also watch out for the front OEM studs as they're shorter than rears.

Forget any of the cheap s**t unless ur planning for a good rim flyby shot on the highway..

Just saw the pics. Luckily the wheel didn't fly off
 
The answer to the question is Yes & No.

Yes-

A properly designed, built, and installed set of reputable spacers (such as SpiderTraxx for example) should act as an extension of the wheel hub and be a solid mounting point for the wheel. It's unlikely to shear the studs off anymore than a stock wheel would on a stock hub, nor will it just fall apart on you.

No-

An improperly designed, built, and/or installed set of reputable/questionable spacers (such as "eBay specials," no-name brands, and SpiderTraxx) can be extremely unsafe and very dangerous. They can be machined out of round, the holes not drilled true to circle, the reliefs not deep enough, cheap studs and/or hardware used, inferior aluminum, not torqued down enough, not retorqued, ect. This can cause a catastrophic failure of the components related to the spacer as has been noted in the past (one member installed theirs improperly and lost a wheel.)

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Long & Short of it is, that for the most part if you're running a known good unit, have had it installed correctly, and are checking torque as recommended; they should be plenty safe (we're not going into pros/cons/reliability concerns/ect. strictly talking from a safe or no safe point here.) But I have seen many questionable brands, improper installation, and lack of follow-up after installation... and quite a few of those haven't resulted in tires flying off (surprisingly.)

[MENTION=123911]borfoo3[/MENTION] What brand were those? They don't lack a hub centering ring like the SpiderTraxx have. I could be wrong, but a lot of the pictures I have seen of SpiderTraxx installed shows that they seem to have a deeper relief so you don't need longer studs. (Also I wouldn't say those fronts were going to fall off, you'd be surprised with how much mechanical strength just half the threads on a good nut have; though I would not be happy with that on my own vehicle to be honest.)
 
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They're as safe as you make them.

Best solution: buy rims with the proper offset and skip the spacers.

Good solution: buy QUALITY spacers and follow manufacturer instructions.
 
[MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION] Didn't confirm the brand as this was the only part I bought through the (supposedly reputable) store that installed the rest of my stuff..

I prefer at least greater than one full bolt diameter for thread engagement of the nut, and that wasn't the case with the front 1.25" spacers.. Seems like you'd either need something with a deeper relief or swap out front OEM studs, neither of which I'd want to try at this point.

A thinner wheel spacer might work, but anything less than 1" was simply not worth the effort IMHO. Hence why I'm back to stock.

Rim offset would be the only way I'd consider doing it if I were to do it again
 
[MENTION=66389]BlackWorksInc[/MENTION] Didn't confirm the brand as this was the only part I bought through the (supposedly reputable) store that installed the rest of my stuff..

I prefer at least greater than one full bolt diameter for thread engagement of the nut, and that wasn't the case with the front 1.25" spacers.. Seems like you'd either need something with a deeper relief or swap out front OEM studs, neither of which I'd want to try at this point.

A thinner wheel spacer might work, but anything less than 1" was simply not worth the effort IMHO. Hence why I'm back to stock.

Rim offset would be the only way I'd consider doing it if I were to do it again
Proper rim offset is the best solution. But why the hesitation to swap studs? It's even easier than us talking about it right now .
 
Wheel spacers can be safe. I've been running a set of TrailGear hub adapters for several years to match the track on my wider rear axle, and I've had no issues. Like Ducmonsta says, I check torque every time I rotate the tires and I pull them off and inspect them once a year. No safety concerns so far.

I'll tell you what I don't like is the additional tire scrub and strain on my suspension and steering components. That's something that not even a wheel with the right backspace will fix. A wider front axle is on my list, but that's not really an option for trucks with IFS...
 
I've only had 2 sets but never had a problem. Once i install them i drive for a day or two and then use loctite and crank them down again, i check them every so often but it's not always on my mind.
 
Anyone that goes to 4wp should buy spacers and smash them against their head! Spacers are safe for your rig than 4wp!
 
I'm going to throw a curveball at you

DUALLY TRUCKS COME WITH A FACTORY 6" WHEEL SPACER IN THE FRONT

of course they're safe, just buy good ones.
 
When to install new tires I had ordered a lift a couple days before I told the tire guy if they could put the spacers since they were going to mount the new tires.. He said they cant do it because spacers are dangerous a wheel could fall out or it could vibrate or affect the truck in the long run..

Is this true??
How long before you check on your spacers to see if they are well bolted on??

Sorry im new to spacers..:thanks:

I think there is some confusion out there among those that don't really know the difference between wheel spacers and wheel adapters.

A wheel spacer is generally a smaller, universal single piece of steel/aluminum, designed to work on a variety of cars and to give minimum spacing, usually less than 1/2". They fit directly onto the studs, and are sandwiched by the wheel and the hub. Wheel adapters are usually heavier, and thicker pieces that are machined, are designed for specific applications, and generally have their own studs. The adapters bolt to the stock studs, then the wheel is bolted to the studs on the adapter. Adapters are usually used to provide spacing greater than 1/2" (I've seen adapters that are 2+ inches thick), and they can also be used to alter a bolt pattern.

I have had Spidertraxx for years and have never had a problem with. When you hear people complain about "spacers" and the existing OEM lug nuts coming loose its because almost half of the OEM studs are made unusable due to the fact that the spacer is now filling up that threaded space. The adapters like Spidertraxx bolt onto the existing OEM studs but they also have their own studs which the rim then bolts onto giving you the full length of threading on the stud to tighten down the rim and lug nuts.

What I like about Spidertraxx is they are made vehicle specific.
 
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Running SpiderTrax on the FJC for several years and about 40k miles, running G2 on the 4R for 4 months and 5k miles. Both brands are high-quality hub-centric spacers. I regularly check the torque on both vehicles, all are torqued to recommended specifications, and I use Red Loctite.
 
We have everyone in our group running spidertrax spacers. One has had them for 7 years and he wheels pretty often. Nothing wrong with them. Just retighten the spacers every so often and you're good to go.
 
Other than the slight tire rubbing they cause, my Spidertrax spacers have been trouble free for the last 8000 miles since I installed them. Here is an interesting write up I found from a guy on a Jeep forum.


"I recently installed a set of 1.5" Spidertrax spacers. However, prior to doing so, I took one of them, along with my spare wheel, into our engineering lab.

We modeled both in 3D using the latest NX CAD software. We did this by reverse engineering. That means taking all dimensions and determining the materials.

We identified the wheel material as alloy 356-T6. The spacers are made from 6061-T6 alloy. 356-T6 has tensile strength of 30,000 PSI. 6061-T6 has a tensile strength of 45,000 PSI. This means that in reference to the basic materials, the spacer is 50% stronger than the wheel for a given thickness, and the spacer is much thicker in section.

We ran an extremely complex finite element analysis of both to determine where peak stresses are and where each component is most likely to fail. The result is what I expected. In short, spacers are not the weak link. The wheel itself is 2x more likely to fail under severe loading than the well designed spacer.

Now, let me qualify our findings. Our corporate engineering team has designed significant portions of the Airbus A350 landing gear system. We engineered the latest landing gear system for the Boeing CH-47. Our hardware is on the F-35, F/A-18, F-16 and a number of other aircraft.

This same engineering team has analyzed the Spirdertrax spacers and concluded that they are extremely strong, stronger than they need to be. Over engineered. These spacers are utterly safe if installed properly. Like an offset wheel, they may accelerate bearing wear, but the offset is so little as to be of no great significance.

I installed the spacers very carefully. Not knowing specifically what brand and type of threadlocker compound was provided with the spacers, I tossed it and used Loctite 271 Red. Each spacer was torqued to recommended specs in a star pattern. The wheel was then installed and torqued to 95 lb/ft.

After about 150 miles, I pulled off the rear wheels and checked the spacer lug nut torque. No change... I'll re-check torque at each tire rotation.

Installed correctly, Spidertrax wheel spacers are not only safe, they're stronger than the wheels you bolt to them."

I didn't mention that we found areas of stress concentration in the factory wheels. We were able to pinpoint the most likely location of failure. I'll explain where that is...

The Factory Moabs have spotfaces milled into the wheel hub to provide clearance for assembly washers used during manufacture to secure the brake rotors on the hub prior to final assembly. Using an endmill, each lug hole is spotfaced on the inside (think of a spotface as a shallow counterbore). The edges and corners of these spotfaces are quite sharp. This is where the FEA predicted the greatest concentration of stress. Unfortunately, this is also adjacent to the where the studs transmit all rotational torque into the wheel. The failure to radius edges and corners is what leads to stress concentration. If your Moab is going to fail at the hub, it will crack at a spotface.

In short, Tom and Eddie at Spidertrax have designed and engineered a very high quality spacer, that if properly installed, will provide you with many years of problem free and safe use.






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I think a lot of the fear of spacers comes from one or two horror stories that have made their way around every off-road forum. I believe the one I read the guy had them installed incorrectly. When you think about it, there are thousands and thousands of spacers installed on trucks all over the U.S. and there are very few stories of them failing. Good spacers aren't expensive so I really don't understand why people go cheap and order off eBay when it's something that important.
 

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