Best springs for mild lift with aftermarket bumpers...

[ivopivo]

I've been searching around a bit but couldn't find solid info... I have the coastal offroad aluminum bumpers front and rear and I also want to do a winch up front (8k winch) along with maybe a constant 100lbs of stuff sitting in the rear.. I'd like to get a mild 1" lift in front, maybe 1.5-2" in rear and want to pair some springs with Bilstein 5100s. No clue what springs would work well so any advice is greatly appreciated. I'm stuck in the hospital due to blood clot and trying to search on my phone but it sucks!

Thanks in advance.

 

[spartacus]

OME 881 front lowest perch on 5100, ome 906 rear.

 

[spartacus]

3rd Gen 4Runner Lift Information and FAQ's

 

[ivopivo]

OME 881 front lowest perch on 5100, ome 906 rear.

I take it you're thinking the 881s will go down a bit in the front due to the extra weight and the 906 in the rear should stay around the 2" lift mark? Are there any better spring options out there or is it basically just OME for our trucks?

 

[octanejunkie]

There are many options beyond OME

What are your use intentions?

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[spartacus]

I take it you're thinking the 881s will go down a bit in the front due to the extra weight and the 906 in the rear should stay around the 2" lift mark? Are there any better spring options out there or is it basically just OME for our trucks?

Yeah, the 881 rated 500lbs are fractionally taller then the (880 also 500lbs but for stock weight) will do better with the winch weight and the bumper even though aluminium bumpers are not heavy. 906 2 inch lift are a good pair for the Bil 5100. The rated for 200lbs so 100 constant weight pLus more for when you loadup.
There are a ton of options in the thread that posted but these are tried and true with 5100's.

 

[ivopivo]

There are many options beyond OME

What are your use intentions?

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Basically a capable camping rig with some offroad use. I went to Colorado a couple years ago and did all I wanted to do with stock suspension and 265/75-16 tires. Now I want to just do a slight lift, same size tires probably and bumpers/winch so it's a bit more capable. Hope that makes sense.

 

[octanejunkie]

Yes, that makes sense. It sounds like 1 and 1/2 to 2 in would probably do the trick.

With the additional weight that you're planning and probably makes sense to consider upgrading your shocks, especially if winching with any regularity

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[Endlessblockades]

What they said and good luck with the blood clot treatment!! Hang in there.

I have an OME 881/906 lift on 5100s w/265/75s - pretty much a common 'Intro to Off Road' lift that doesn't really need anything else to get you a lot of places. I do run MTs and 1.25" Spidertrax. Split both CV boots right away and did a diff drop I didn't need, so I've done most of the Noob stuff. Probably should have done a little more research and gone straight to a 3" lift but I was impatient. I'm waiting for a basic winch bumper to come in the mail as well.....the rig does not cease to amaze me with what it can do with this +/- 2" lift. That reminds me - I do run extended sway bar end links and better Durobump stops but probably not critical.

Edit - the above OME/5100 spring and shock combo is commonly available pre-assembled (front coilovers) so you can install them yourself much more safely (me) and easily. The springs are side-specific and labeled to compensate for the extra weight on driver side of the rig. The whole thing was in the low $700s shipped....with inflation/shortages ,YMMV. The newer Blisteins with remote resis look nice and beyond that there are a bunch of option$.

 

[ivopivo]

Yes, that makes sense. It sounds like 1 and 1/2 to 2 in would probably do the trick.

With the additional weight that you're planning and probably makes sense to consider upgrading your shocks, especially if winching with any regularity

Take a look here
Absalom's Cookie Cutter 4runner Builds - New and Updated!

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Upgrading to something better than 5100s?


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[octanejunkie]

Upgrading to something better than 5100s?


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Depends on which 5100s you are referring to: 4runner or Tundra.

There are other shocks out there for our rigs besides Bilstein. You can buy full OME, Toytec, and more kits that will do exactly what you are looking to do.

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[TW44LR]

For the rear there is dobinsons c59-137v that are about 2” if I believe correctly. A couple members have tried them out and I may try them next.


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[phattyduck]

The rear 4Runner specific 5100's are actually designed for the OME 2906 springs. That'll be right at 2", even with a bit of weight in the rear.

For such a mild lift in the front I'd either stick with stock springs (due to aluminum bumper instead of steel) and lift 2 notches on the 5100's (again, make sure they are the 4Runner ones), or use OME 880's on the lowest perch.

-Charlie

 

[ivopivo]

Depends on which 5100s you are referring to: 4runner or Tundra.

There are other shocks out there for our rigs besides Bilstein. You can buy full OME, Toytec, and more kits that will do exactly what you are looking to do.

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I didn't research the Tundra 5100s... I assume they're beefier/better? As much as I want a capable camping rig, I will also be daily driving it a lot so looking for as much comfort as I can squeeze out of it. I already know any lift, accessories, etc will not be as comfy as stock suspension, but I've heard OME is pretty rough so looking for other options. Are eibach front coils softer than the OME 881s?

 

[phattyduck]

but I've heard OME is pretty rough so looking for other options.

OME shocks are stiff/rough. Plenty of people use the springs with other shocks with no complaints.

The front Tundra 5100's are valved stiffer and have slightly different spring perch heights. The rear Tundra 5100's are long (require bump stop extensions) and valved too soft. Just stick with the 4Runner specific stuff for your basic suspension work.

-Charlie

 

[ivopivo]

Thanks all. Just to clarify, is there any reference/comparison info for the 5100s vs stock shocks when it comes to height? For example, if I was to install the 880 spring on a stock shock, I assume that gives me the listed 1.5" lift for stock weight. Is the bottom perch on 5100s the equivalent to stock shock height?

 

[phattyduck]

Is the bottom perch on 5100s the equivalent to stock shock height?

Yes, for the 4Runner specific version. The D558 Tacoma or Tundra version is a different ride height on the lower perch. If you are reading threads that are over 3 years old, they will talk about other 5100 options (the 4Runner specific ones were release in 2019, I think), which is why you might be getting confused.

I actually run my original 2WD front springs up a couple notches with a small top plate spacer to get max droop with the stock arms and the softest springs I can deal with. When I add a winch up front, I'll probably swap over to stock 4WD springs.

-Charlie

 

[ivopivo]

Yes, for the 4Runner specific version. The D558 Tacoma or Tundra version is a different ride height on the lower perch. If you are reading threads that are over 3 years old, they will talk about other 5100 options (the 4Runner specific ones were release in 2019, I think), which is why you might be getting confused.

I actually run my original 2WD front springs up a couple notches with a small top plate spacer to get max droop with the stock arms and the softest springs I can deal with. When I add a winch up front, I'll probably swap over to stock 4WD springs.

-Charlie

Makes sense, thanks. I’ve decided on 880 and 906. What’s the part number for the 4runner specific 5100s?

Sorry for slow reply, ended up in ER for 5 days, next surgery in 10 days to deal with blood clot shit! I greatly appreciate all the responses.


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[ivopivo]

Why is this required before purchasing shocks…

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[cl4Rk]

Why is this required before purchasing shocks…

Pretty sure those are Tacoma-specific (or maybe Tundra) product add-ons. The 4Runner-specific 5100 part numbers are:

- Bilstein 5100 4Runner front shocks (PN 24-248730)
- Bilstein 5100 4Runner rear shocks (PN 24-249966)