Bfg at ko2

[jthoms1]

I'm going this morning for new KO2's. I have a 2011 with Bilstein 5100's and the Icon springs in back for about a 2" lift all the way around (front Bilsteins on highest setting). I have TRD Pro wheels. I am deeply conflicted about whether to go 285 or 275.

Here are my concerns:

1. The BF Goodrich website says the 285 tire needs at least a 7.5" wide rim. The TRD Pro's are 7". Having read every thread on here about tires I know people mount the 285's on the TRD Pro's all the time. Why does BFG call for the 7.5" rim though?
2. I don't want to replace the UCA's at this point, will the camber be off in front if I go 285's and don't change the UCA's?

Help!

 

[jthoms1]

I went with the KO2 285's. They had a returned set with 150 miles on them at Discount Tire for $850 w/road hazard certificates included. Slight rubbing on the front bumper at the very bottom of the wheel well....not an issue for me though as I have a CBI bumper on the way. Love the look.

 

[Jcaussea]

I the g2 285/70/17 was a good size I had these mounted on the stock rims. I then changed wheels to 18's so I decided to go with bfg. The g2 I had were not LT stamped and from everything I've read they were more of a c rated than p rated in that size. I didn't like the g2 I slipped a lot in rain and snow. I haven't slipped anywhere as bad with the bfg but I think it has to do with the rating which my bfg is e rated. For me it was a toss up with the bfg I originally wanted duratracs but I couldn't find them for a good price at the time.

In an effort to not sound foolish, let's assume I don't know what you mean when you say p rated and c rated tires. :spy: Sorry if this is an obvious question, just want to make sure I'm making the right decisions with my upgrades.

 

[mrevilandy]

In an effort to not sound foolish, let's assume I don't know what you mean when you say p rated and c rated tires. :spy: Sorry if this is an obvious question, just want to make sure I'm making the right decisions with my upgrades.

Toughness of the tire, p = passenger tire usually lighter. I went LT which stands for light truck meaning it's heavier and more durable on the sidewalks. Mainly for off roading purposes

 

[gm350reratliff]

I'm going this morning for new KO2's. I have a 2011 with Bilstein 5100's and the Icon springs in back for about a 2" lift all the way around (front Bilsteins on highest setting). I have TRD Pro wheels. I am deeply conflicted about whether to go 285 or 275.

Here are my concerns:

1. The BF Goodrich website says the 285 tire needs at least a 7.5" wide rim. The TRD Pro's are 7". Having read every thread on here about tires I know people mount the 285's on the TRD Pro's all the time. Why does BFG call for the 7.5" rim though?

BFG recommends at least a 7.5" wide wheel for use with a 285 wide tire for an optimal tread contact area. Meaning, using something narrower than a 7.5" wheel could possibly lead to more wear in the center of the tire. There is also a risk of the bead not sitting correctly on the wheel if you were to use really narrow wheels. Really though, a 1/2" isn't going to make much of a difference. I've ran 285's on 7" wheels plenty of times and never had an issue. In fact, it seems to hold the bead better when aired down anyway.

2. I don't want to replace the UCA's at this point, will the camber be off in front if I go 285's and don't change the UCA's?

The size of tire will have effect on camber or any other alignment angle. The issue is when running wide tires that they may contact the UCA but you would probably be ok since you plan to run TRDP wheels.

Help!

I would have the tire shop mount one and check first just to be sure.

 

[PGHAaron]

Tread Life

How long has/have everyone have/had these tires; and how many miles can i expect to get on a set before they wear out. Simply put, I going back and forth between these and General Grabber AT2 tires and am looking at tread life as one of many factors in said decision.

Thanks for the input!

 

[audiciter]

How long has/have everyone have/had these tires; and how many miles can i expect to get on a set before they wear out. Simply put, I going back and forth between these and General Grabber AT2 tires and am looking at tread life as one of many factors in said decision.

Thanks for the input!

I was in the same boat as you. I was ready to buy the Grabber AT2s but they were on backorder until February. They get great reviews and are much more affordable than the KO2. With that being said, I preferred to have the KO2 anyway but didn't feel like paying the premium for them. My tire shop actually knocked the price down on them to make them a little closer to the Grabber AT2 price so I went ahead with the KO2.

I've heard both tires will get 50-60k miles. Fortunately I only drive about 5,000 miles per year and will probably never find out.

 

[Wasatch]

I've heard both tires will get 50-60k miles. Fortunately I only drive about 5,000 miles per year and will probably never find out.

I had a set of the first gen AT KO's on my Tacoma and with regular rotation I was able to get 40k. Could have used them another year (10k+) but was very conservative when winter rolled around so I switched them out.

 

[MeefZah]

What was the MPG drop when you guys switched to these. Would be running stock size C load range.

E range (sorry, that's my only experience) was significant. Toytec BOSS lift, bumper, winch:

Firestone Destination AT 285/70 17 C range - 17.9 mpg actual
BFG KO2 285/70 17 E range - 15.1 mpg actual

I didn't notice any ride difference but I have a fat ass that probably absorbs better than most. The mpg was unacceptable though, and I really liked the Firestones - got me cross country, through Moab trails, all over the place off road from West Virginia to Montana... I went back to them... 3 mpg over the life of the tires is a lot.

Edit, ****, I see a just replied to a post from 18 months ago. You guys bumping these old ass threads....LOL

 

[gentlypfister]

They look much meatier in person but here are some more shots.

Looks great - any rubbing issues at all?

265/70/17 load range C
Stock suspension

My bad, not enough coffee this morning: :doh:

No I am running 17 x 7's

I am thinking of doing these on my TRD pro. If I keep everything stock suspension, i shouldn't have rubbing if i go 265 right?

 

[00Sebby]

Looks great - any rubbing issues at all?











I am thinking of doing these on my TRD pro. If I keep everything stock suspension, i shouldn't have rubbing if i go 265 right?

No rubbing even at max flex (which of course isn't that much). You shouldn't have any issues.


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[gentlypfister]

No rubbing even at max flex (which of course isn't that much). You shouldn't have any issues.


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Thanks! Looks like I can go full 275 as well. Such a better look than the nittos!


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[00Sebby]

Thanks! Looks like I can go full 275 as well. Such a better look than the nittos!


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I think the 275s only come in E load. Great if really going to abuse them. The C load tires are lighter, smoother highway, still very capable off-road and probably don't hurt the mpg so much.


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[gentlypfister]

I think the 275s only come in E load. Great if really going to abuse them. The C load tires are lighter, smoother highway, still very capable off-road and probably don't hurt the mpg so much.


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Ah good to know. E will be rougher ride too. Maybe I'll stick with 265. It's such a small diff any way right?


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[p nut]

They ride great on-road, even with LR E. MPG suffers, but that's expected with such a heavy tire. Good thing is, the heft is in the right places: nice, thick tread, and beefy sidewalls. Snow performance is great as well.

The only gripe I have is if you're on gravel roads, they chuck rocks like nothing else. Not a big deal, but some times annoying. Just don't have your friends follow too close.

 

[samster747]

I have had mine now for a couple of months and in short, yes the ride is a little stiffer and can be harsh at times compared to the stock tires. The factory tires are pretty soft and are a much lower load rating the the KO2s. The KO2s are an E rated tire which a much stiffer sidewall. If you are going for comfort, the KO2s might not be the best. Also, I am having a very hard time getting one tire to balance. I have been in 3 times in the past 2 months in an attempt to get them to balance right. One tire was replaced under warranty after 2 weeks as the tire tech told me, "it might as well have been a square tire" that's how bad it was. I will ride with them for a while and see how it goes, but would probably get something different if I had not gotten such a damn good deal on them. Just my 2 cents. Couple of pics added, size is 275/70R17

Hi there I see that you got the LINE X treatment. How do you like it? I'm looking at getting my flares done...where did you get them done? Just curious, what price do you think it'll be just for the flares? Asking cause I have no clue. Thanks!

 

[doxiedad]

What kind of tread life do you get with these? I've been thinking of getting these when I have to replace my OEM tires, but my 4Runner is 90% or better on road. Don't want to have to buy new tires every 30K miles

 

[mrevilandy]

I'm at 50k plus and still have very decent amount left almost new still. I have load range e though so that's a factor. If your on road majority of the time a different tire might be better

 

[Dog Runner]

I have about 37k on my BFG KO 2's in the 34x10 variety, and I have 7/32 left on them..... My guess is another 10k and they will be shot since the last half of the tire tread wears faster... I'm not the type of guy to run them until they are bald.


I will say with great confidence/experience they are better in almost every way to the stock Nittos, and the Toyo Open Country's AT 2's... KO 2's are better in snow, better in the wet, less prone to hydroplaning and super quiet... As for the total amount of miles I can put on a set of tires is not my biggest concern... For others, it may be higher on the list of what qualifies as a good tire....

Good luck!

 

[doxiedad]

I'm at 50k plus and still have very decent amount left almost new still. I have load range e though so that's a factor. If your on road majority of the time a different tire might be better

Yeah most of my driving will be onroad. The nearest place for me to offroad is about 3 hours away. So maybe once a month needing offroad. Living in SC snow is a non issue, though wet handling is important.