Billstein and fj spring question

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I know this setup has been covered before but a couple questions

2008 4runner with no extra weight....want to level and raise it a few inches

If i put on front fj springs and 5100s at 1.75 position, would i need to put a pacer on the back with stock springs and shocks

Or is it possible to put fj springs on rear and leave the stock shocks?

I guess i could put on rear billstein shocks to, but want to do it as cost effective as possible.

Not doing any offroading. Just want to raise and level without the front end being higher than the rear

Thanks
 
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Uknome said:
I know this setup has been covered before but a couple questions

2008 4runner with no extra weight....want to level and raise it a few inches

If i put on front fj springs and 5100s at 1.75 position, would i need to put a pacer on the back with stock springs and shocks

Or is it possible to put fj springs on rear and leave the stock shocks?

I guess i could put on rear billstein shocks to, but want to do it as cost effective as possible.

Not doing any offroading. Just want to raise and level without the front end being higher than the rear

Thanks
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I don't know if you want to have two old shocks and two brand new Bilsteins up front. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt anything but it might drive like crap.

Based on everything I heard, FJ Springs all around with bilsteins set at .85 in the front seems to be the perfect combination for a bit of lift and level without overkill.
 
That's strange I thought you would have got more of a lift with the fj springs and 5100 setup...what setting were they at?
 
Yes, about 1 inch lift total set at .85 on mine which makes it almost level with still a tint bit of front rake. Not sure I would use stock shocks in rear with FJ springs. You could easily do the 1.75" settings on the front, but then you would need a spacer for the rear.
 
Lolrax said:
Were they adjustable? what did you set them at?
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AFAIK the rears are not adjustable. My setup was a 2008 (I think) FJC Trail Teams springs front and rear, with the FJC TT front shocks included (Bilstiens but I don't think they were adjustable.) Bought from a guy on Expedition Portal and then I had to source my own (Bilstien 5100) rear shocks. Actual lift as measured at 5 points (center of the 4 wheel arches and also the rear receiver hitch) was right a 1".

I think if you go to the link in my sig it shows the actual measurements.
 
Check out my photo album.

2007 FJC Springs F & R...new from Rock Auto.
Bilstein 5100's w/front set at 0.85"
Rear Daystar spacer

You will get around a 2" lift F & R with about a 2* (measured) front rake.

*Note: If you set the front up to the next setting (1.75"?), then it will level it out, and looking at it, it looks much better, and allows for a little more tire. However, I found that at that next setting, the downward front suspension travel is severely limited. When I jacked the front up, the wheels lifted off the ground pretty quickly. I had just replaced the control arms and ball joints during the lift, and was not interested in beating them up when the suspension bottomed out when running over Michigan potholes. I played it a bit conservative and put it back at the lower setting, pending the purchase of some aftermarket front upper control arms with increased ball joint articulation angles.
 
v6 or v8? 4wd or 2wd? That makes some difference? Also how used the previous used suspension is which of course if pretty much impossible to tell. I have an 06' 4wd sr5 v6 with fj 4wd coils all around and a rear 1.5" spacer and the fronts are set at 2.5" lift. Sits very level.
 
FJ in the front set @.85 and you'll be level with the rear. Even with FJ coils in the rear you'll see no noticeable difference. Front set @1.75 and spacers outback @1.5(Daystar) will be a bit reverse rake.

Info based on my V6. I currently have Tacoma coils on now and they're about the same measurements.
 
chompster4runner said:
FJ in the front set @.85 and you'll be level with the rear. Even with FJ coils in the rear you'll see no noticeable difference. Front set @1.75 and spacers outback @1.5(Daystar) will be a bit reverse rake.

Info based on my V6. I currently have Tacoma coils on now and they're about the same measurements.
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I have a V6 with 2WD. I don't want huge lift, just level with a stiffer front end. Sounds like if I do 5100's all around with FJ springs in front and stock springs in back, I should be good to go. Correct?

(Sorry for the interrupt but I'm loking for the same thing as the OP I think.)
 
YetiX said:
I have a V6 with 2WD. I don't want huge lift, just level with a stiffer front end. Sounds like if I do 5100's all around with FJ springs in front and stock springs in back, I should be good to go. Correct?

(Sorry for the interrupt but I'm loking for the same thing as the OP I think.)
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Yes, you'll be fine with stock rears on 5100s and FJ up front @.85 5100s for a level look and a wee bit stiffer. Maybe you can get an idea with this angle.
 
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chompster4runner said:
Yes, you'll be fine with stock rears on 5100s and FJ up front @.85 5100s for a level look and a wee bit stiffer. Maybe you can get an idea with this angle.
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chompster4runner,
Were you able to get a good alingement with that front lift? I had a Tacoma that I used Bilsteins at 1.75 and could not even get close to a good alingement without UCA's.
 
Good351 said:
chompster4runner,
Were you able to get a good alingement with that front lift? I had a Tacoma that I used Bilsteins at 1.75 and could not even get close to a good alingement without UCA's.
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I have mine set @.85 and gained roughly 2inches with Tacoma coils and sears was able to get my alignment right . Make sure your tires are inflated close to what is printed on the sidewall. Most places do free alignment checks including my local Toyota. So I would see if their numbers are close to each other and go from there.
 
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Thanks chompster4runner! I was hoping you had good luck getting a good alignment.
I have a set of fj coils on the way, going to install new 5100's at the same time.. don't know if I want a full 2" in front.. Going to keep stock springs with new 5100 shocks in rear.

Is yours a v8 or v6? Maybe I would be closer to 1.5" with my v8?
Edit: I see yours is a v6..
 
Good351 said:
Thanks chompster4runner! I was hoping you had good luck getting a good alignment.
I have a set of fj coils on the way, going to install new 5100's at the same time.. don't know if I want a full 2" in front.. Going to keep stock springs with new 5100 shocks in rear.

Is yours a v8 or v6? Maybe I would be closer to 1.5" with my v8?
Edit: I see yours is a v6..
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Its closer to 2in. Each 4runner sag more than the other. As you can see my pic, the front don't look that high from the side. But the from the front it does look lifted. If that makes sense.
 
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