Body Lift vs. Lift Kit?
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david_ray320
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sn0wrunner said:
The Toytec lift is probably the route I'll end up taking. Dunno if I want to go as big as 285's though. I'd probably stick with 265's or 275's.
sn0wrunner
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Thats a good choice. You for sure wont have any problems with rubbing then, and they'll be cheaper. Either way it'll seem huge compared to the 225's you got on now. Cant wait to see it!david_ray320 said:
On a totally other topic... Didn't you say you were coming to CO a while back for LAX? or am i thinking of someone else? if it was you, what happened to that?
david_ray320
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sn0wrunner said:
Yeah that was me. Well assuming we win our Regional Championship which we're favored to, we would come out to Denver for the MCLA National Championship weekend on like May 12th-16th I think.
sn0wrunner
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right on! Well be sure to send me a PM if you do and i'll come watch!
Back on topic... sorry
Back on topic... sorry
david_ray320
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sn0wrunner said:
I'll be sure to let you know, keep your fingers crossed! We've actually got 2 big games this weekend, tonight and tomorrow night. If we win those we're really likely to get the #1 seed going into regionals. That'd be awesome if you came out and watched! It's a pretty big championship weekend with a bunch of games and some really solid teams. You'd be sure to catch a lot of good lacrosse! I'm from Maryland where you're born with a lacrosse stick in your hand but it's getting big out west too, in CO and UT.
Anyway, on topic. Assuming I were to get the 3" Toytec lift, would a regular auto shop be able to install it? Normally I like to install things myself to save money and to learn more about my runner and everything, but with something like a lift I'd feel a lot more comfortable getting it professionally installed so I know it's done properly. What kind of places would be able/qualified to install a lift?
LINY4Runner
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is the Toyotec Lift just spacers? or is it coils?
david_ray320
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LINY4Runner said:
The 3" one I'm looking at is 3" front lift spacers and rear OME 890 coils.
Toytec 3" Lift
you should look at some pictures of a body lift before you do it. I personally do not like them at all... looks cheap. You can see separation in the bumpers.. the lines of the car just dont match up the same. If your going to spend $119 on a 1" body lift.. id MUCH rather fork out $300 for a true 3" lift.
just my 2 cents..
just my 2 cents..
here you go. i just posted this.
Body lifts cause issues that are hard to track down over time. When you change a suspension you are working with a system that was designed to move up and down. It is easy to pinpoint the components that need to be addressed in that system. (ie, longer brake lines).
The body was NEVER intended to be moved away from the frame. You have to lenghten the body bolts, pull on the wire harness, strain on hard brake lines not intended to flex , change shifter linkages and clearance points, extend steering linkages, etc. Additional twist in the frame add stress on the now longer body bolts.
I would agree that body lifts are cheap and easy way to fit bigger tires. But in the long run they are a pain and cause issues. They also leave the frame 2" closer to the ground which is the last thing you want when trying to go wheeling.
Do this math. The whole point of a lift is to fit bigger tires. The whole point of bigger tires is more ground clearance. If a 2" body lift allows you to add a 2" taller tire, that will only net you 1" more ground clearance under the frame. A suspension lift of the same size will net you 3" of clearance under the frame because the frame is moved up by the lift AND the tires.
Body lifts cause issues that are hard to track down over time. When you change a suspension you are working with a system that was designed to move up and down. It is easy to pinpoint the components that need to be addressed in that system. (ie, longer brake lines).
The body was NEVER intended to be moved away from the frame. You have to lenghten the body bolts, pull on the wire harness, strain on hard brake lines not intended to flex , change shifter linkages and clearance points, extend steering linkages, etc. Additional twist in the frame add stress on the now longer body bolts.
I would agree that body lifts are cheap and easy way to fit bigger tires. But in the long run they are a pain and cause issues. They also leave the frame 2" closer to the ground which is the last thing you want when trying to go wheeling.
Do this math. The whole point of a lift is to fit bigger tires. The whole point of bigger tires is more ground clearance. If a 2" body lift allows you to add a 2" taller tire, that will only net you 1" more ground clearance under the frame. A suspension lift of the same size will net you 3" of clearance under the frame because the frame is moved up by the lift AND the tires.
david_ray320
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Noted. I will be going with the Toytec 3" lift kit instead.
david_ray320
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druuu88 said:
Yeah it's gonna be a little while because first I've gotta get enough $$ for tires because I'm not throwing on a 3" lift w/ the 225's I have now lol. That'd be pretty funny looking.
OrRunner
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Just for the record 285s (33's) WILL NOT fit with just a 3 inch suspension lift. You will definitely rub when turning, and if you offroad at all you will rub like crazy. A suspension lift still has the original travel and will not allow you to clear bigger tires. A body lift actually moves the areas that rub away from the tires and allow you to run a larger tire. I'm running 265/75/16s (32's) with a 3 inch suspension lift and had to trim and hammer the pinch weld, and I still get a tiny bit of rubbing off road. If you want to run bigger tires and don't care about off road performance do a 2 inch body lift. You will be happier.
Reno - 3rd gen
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Just thought i'd weigh in since I got the 3" toytec front coil overs and the superflex coils in the rear (with larger shocks), and then went with a 2" body lift afterwards. I was running 285s with the 3" suspension lift and did experience some minor rubbing even after hammering the pinch weld (Nothing significant, but there none the less). I opted for the 2" BL after the suspension lift for the sole purpose of later clearing 35"s (which are going on next week along with re-gearing and putting in front and rear torsion diffs!).
I personally didn't feel like the handling around corners got too much worse after the BL, but as someone previously stated, fixing the bumper gap is a pain. Also consider how warn out your current coils and shocks are. Body Lifts can be really difficult to install (I had a shop install mine), whereas a suspension lift is actually much easier (I installed my front and rear on my own without too much trouble). I would definitely recommend going with the suspension lift, and if your never gunna go with tires larger than 33's, I think a body lift is more trouble than it's worth. Just my 2 cents.
I personally didn't feel like the handling around corners got too much worse after the BL, but as someone previously stated, fixing the bumper gap is a pain. Also consider how warn out your current coils and shocks are. Body Lifts can be really difficult to install (I had a shop install mine), whereas a suspension lift is actually much easier (I installed my front and rear on my own without too much trouble). I would definitely recommend going with the suspension lift, and if your never gunna go with tires larger than 33's, I think a body lift is more trouble than it's worth. Just my 2 cents.
