Bought a brand new 2006 T4R Limited V8 4WD today!

iFORCE said:
All limiteds come with a spoiler. If you don't like it.. take it off. Either you take it off or the dealership does... you'll still be charged the spoiler as it comes in the package.
I don't know how to better explain this to you iForce (even though I already have repeatedly).

The spoiler is an OPTION on all Limiteds in the US. It seems that they bundle everything together in Canada, and that is what you are basing your information off of, but that is NOT the case in the US. Here in the US, you can get a Limited without a spoiler. The dealer does not have to take it off. They just do not put it on at the factory. And in the end, you save $399 (in my region) because it was an unwanted OPTION that they never put on it in the first place.
 
LSUMBA said:
I don't know how to better explain this to you iForce (even though I already have repeatedly).

The spoiler is an OPTION on all Limiteds in the US. It seems that they bundle everything together in Canada, and that is what you are basing your information off of, but that is NOT the case in the US. Here in the US, you can get a Limited without a spoiler. The dealer does not have to take it off. They just do not put it on at the factory. And in the end, you save $399 (in my region) because it was an unwanted OPTION that they never put on it in the first place.

ok. calm down there. I guess everything down there is an option.. as well as buying a 4runner. Have fun waiting.

RAS is an option
XREAS is an option
Spoiler is an option (yes... I did go visit the american toyota website and the spoiler is an option for all three trim levels.)
Moonroof is an option


what's wierd is that all three options combination when I build my own toyota lists a spoiler. i'm guessing there is a "pick your own options" at the dealers. does a limited package automatically include xreas and ras? it didn't give me the option of choosing it on their website.
 
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iFORCE said:

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what's wierd is that all three options combination when I build my own toyota lists a spoiler. i'm guessing there is a "pick your own options" at the dealers. does a limited package automatically include xreas and ras? it didn't give me the option of choosing it on their website.
Your guess is correct, at least at my dealer.

The "build your own Toyota" on the web lists options only in certain packages for certain models. The available packages change periodically.

Looking at the site, you'd get the impression that those option packages were the only things you could buy. My dealer told me, however, that they can order the precise combination of options I'd prefer. The only catch is that there is a long wait.

I'm now waiting.
 
Dennis said:
Your guess is correct, at least at my dealer.

The "build your own Toyota" on the web lists options only in certain packages for certain models. The available packages change periodically.

Looking at the site, you'd get the impression that those option packages were the only things you could buy. My dealer told me, however, that they can order the precise combination of options I'd prefer. The only catch is that there is a long wait.

I'm now waiting.

certain option packages for certain models? I think the website has ALL the packages with ALL the models available. If its anything different, it would be a dealership made package.. like the X-SP or whatever you call it.
 
iFORCE said:
certain option packages for certain models? I think the website has ALL the packages with ALL the models available. If its anything different, it would be a dealership made package.. like the X-SP or whatever you call it.

I don't know why the website lists packages the way it does, although there is obviously some reason. But I wanted a combination of options that was not shown on the website. I also stipulated that all options be factory installed. The dealer said "No problem. Make a list of the options you want and we will order exactly those." That's what I did.

Of course, you can only request options that the factory allows for the model you want. The 4Runner brochure has a complete listing of options available for each model, and you have to stick to that.

[More specifically, I wanted a Limited V6 with X-REAS. None of the option packages listed on the web included X-REAS. The brochure says X-REAS shocks are an option for Limited models, but I could only get it by ordering a custom package.]
 
Update on your order

LSUMBA, would love an update on your order and which dealer you worked with in Atlanta. I'm live in Atlanta as well.

I'm in the process of getting rid of my Wrangler and am very interested in the T4R, but, only as I want it equipped.

Your help would be very appreciated!
 
Re: Update on your order

LewDis said:
LSUMBA, would love an update on your order and which dealer you worked with in Atlanta. I'm live in Atlanta as well.

I'm in the process of getting rid of my Wrangler and am very interested in the T4R, but, only as I want it equipped.

Your help would be very appreciated!

The first thing I did was go to every dealer website in the metro Atlanta area and get every single e-mail address I could find on there. I also included dealerships in Nashville & New Orleans since I have family there & could easily travel there to make a purchase. The reason for multiple e-mail addresses for each dealership is that they usually have a lot of turnover. I collected 56 e-mails & I probably got a dozen kicked back to me as undeliverable.

Once I had the e-mail addresses, I composed a letter that detailed exactly what I wanted. Here is the text of what I sent...

Greetings,

My name is < LSUMBA > and I am interested in purchasing a new 2006 Toyota 4Runner Limited. I would like to request a price quote from you based on the information in this note. I am located in Atlanta, GA and I am sending this note to all dealers in the metro Atlanta area. I have also included dealers in the New Orleans and Nashville areas as I have family in both cities and I frequently travel there.

I have done extensive research on the 2006 4Runner and I am looking for a pretty specific configuration. So specific, that I am willing to special order the vehicle if one cannot be located. All of the options I am looking for should be factory installed & not installed at the port. Below is exactly what I am looking for
 
Well, it has now been 9 weeks since my special order has been placed (I should be on week 14! :mad: ) & I am having a hard time prying any kind of update out of my sales guy.

After the initial debaucle, I went in & personally told the guy to expect an e-mail from me every couple weeks asking for an update. He told me that was not a problem & if I wanted to contact him evn more often than that, it was no big deal.

So I send the guy an e-mail last month & he does not respond. It takes me finally calling the general manager of the dealership to get the guy to give me an update. His update is basically "I have no update". I am fine with that because at the time we were only 6 weeks into the order.

I waited until last week (8 weeks in) to contact him again & once again, I get no reply from him. I sent a follow up e-mail yesterday (at the 9 week mark) asking him to please send me whatever he knows because I recently found a buyer for my 1997 T4R. No reply. I called his cell phone & left a voice mail. I called the dealership & left him a voice mail. No reply to either one. I called the GM & he is out of town.

Now, my question to the board (and mainly those who have special ordered before)....am I being overzealous in asking for an update every 2 weeks? Is he possibly avoiding me because there is nothing to update me with? He told me the whole order could take up to 16 weeks, but I have to believe that at the halfway point of that 16 weeks, the truck has been built & at least assigned a VIN number that he can give me.

Thanks for your advice.
 
LSUMBA,

I certainly don't think you're being unreasonable. You warned him you would be a pest and he claimed to be cool with that. You should be able to get responses, even its "no news".

As to whether actually should be any news, I can only say I doubt it. I have never been able to get progress updates on any car I've ordered, foreign or domestic. I've never ordered from Toyota before.

I have had an order in since November 29. I was told the order would take four to five months (sigh). I decided I would be more less antsy if I wasn't thinking about it constantly, so I made a decision not to call the dealership until March 1. I don't really expect any news even then, but three months is the most I canhold out!
 
LOL...maybe my sales guy reads this board. Right after I posted my note above, I got him on the phone!

He simply told me "no update" once again, which is fine by me, so long as he tells me that he has nothing to tell me. He said that he will not hear anything until the truck hits his allocation record. Once that happens, he will have it within 30 days. So I told him I would pester him again in 2 weeks! :D

On a side note, I was playing around on toyota.com and I found a 4Runner almost identical to what I ordered. The only difference is that it is galactic Gray (instead of Shadow Mica) and it has Rear Air Suspension. I asked the guy if he can get it for me & I would be willing to buy it and he can sell the special order when it comes in. He put a call in to the dealership it is headed to to see if they can work a trade. if it all works out, I may be getting my new truck at the beginning of March!

And BTW...the current incentive on a T4R V8 4WD is $2000!
 
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Mutombo said:
Up to $2000 now? Do you know how long that lasts?

My guess is that it will last through the end of February.

Call your local dealer to be sure. Different regions may have different incentives.
 
LSUMBA --

The latest that your dealer told you is now starting to sound like what my dealer had told me. My dealer was the one that said the regional guys only order certain configurations and I'd have to get one that was the closest match to what I originally wanted (meaning I had to get the side airbags, DRL, and that spoiler). He said he wouldn't be told when the vehicle was built or anything... he would just have to check the "allocation" or cars shipping from Japan every week until he saw that exact configuration on the list, then he would have to make sure he reserved it for his dealership in case it wasn't already going there.

Turned out that he did not check the computer every week and about 2 months later I saw on Toyota.com that my car had gone to a different dealership in the area. I called my dealer and he got it from the other dealer for me.

Waiting for a special order does suck, but he is probably telling the truth that he doesn't know anything and probable won't until he almost has the vehicle on the lot.
 
At first I was nervous that he was jerking me around. Compound that with already getting screwed over by this dealership once, and I was pretty much tied in knots. But after he actually explained the process to me, I am at least a little bit relieved. The biggest problem I have is why he did not just tell me up front that he would not have anything until 30 days out? Instead of having me pester him every 2 weeks wondering what the status was, he could have just said, "I will not know anything for at least 12 weeks."

Yesterday was the first time I looked at the inventory for my region & saw the truck that was almost exactly what I ordered. If I had been a little more diligent (or if my sales guy was a little bit better than he is), I would have seen that sooner. I have not heard back from the dealer on whether he can get it or not, but if I don't get it, it will only mean another delay of a few more weeks.

As for the configuration thing, my sales guy told me that he can order any vehicle in just about any configuration. Unless Toyota specifically states that Option A cannot be combined with Option B, the region that I am in does not restrict a la carte option ordering. It may not be their standard template of what they usually order or get in, but they do not tell you that you cannot have a truck exactly the way you want it.

Of course, that may not hold true for all regions.
 
iFORCE said:
All limiteds come with a spoiler. If you don't like it.. take it off. Either you take it off or the dealership does... you'll still be charged the spoiler as it comes in the package.
All Limiteds do NOT come with a rear spoiler. That is why the rear spoiler is listed as an option (at least in the US). There is a Ltd. at my dealership right now that doesn't have spoiler. If you remove the spoiler, you will have mounting holes in the rear hatch that will have to be repaired and painted.

I have a Limited on order that will not have the spoiler or day running lights. I ordered it that way, have the allocation notice which has the order exactly as I spec'd it, and an estimated arrival date of May 15th, '06. The initial order was placed Dec. 20th, 2005.
 
congrats

hey, congrats on the new t4r. remember to do a search on "break-in period" before you pick her up. it confused the hell out of me on what to do the first few thousand miles. how fast to drive or not to drive, when to change oil, what type of oil, what octane of gas...but hey it was fun. congrats.
 
LSUMBA said:
On a side note, I was playing around on toyota.com and I found a 4Runner almost identical to what I ordered. The only difference is that it is galactic Gray (instead of Shadow Mica) and it has Rear Air Suspension. I asked the guy if he can get it for me & I would be willing to buy it and he can sell the special order when it comes in. He put a call in to the dealership it is headed to to see if they can work a trade. if it all works out, I may be getting my new truck at the beginning of March!

And BTW...the current incentive on a T4R V8 4WD is $2000! [/B]
So how did it all work out? I see in your sig that you now own a White T4R, congrats!
 

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