Calipers New vs Reman

I should have been more clear. Hope this helps.
$150 for the front calipers. Oem Toyota
$30 for the rebuild kit. Oem Toyota .
$50 pads. Oem Toyota
$8 for the bleeders

No cores necessary. This allowed me to do all of the work first and minimal downtime for the rig.
 
I agree with most of this concept too. Plenty of online (Toyota) dealers will sell at far more discounted rate than my local dealer.

The aftermarket (new and rebuilt) use an oem casting to start and use whatever cheap guts they can source. They customize the exterior for their brand and fluctuate the price accordingly.

I bought brand-new aftermarket calipers several years ago from Advance Auto, they're definitely non-OEM castings. Raybestos now sells new castings (no cores needed), they're probably from the same overseas manufacturer.
 
I bought brand-new aftermarket calipers several years ago from Advance Auto, they're definitely non-OEM castings. Raybestos now sells new castings (no cores needed), they're probably from the same overseas manufacturer.

I went with the (new) Raybestos Element 3 coated calipers after years of dealing with the crappy remans, couldn't be happier.
 
I went with the (new) Raybestos Element 3 coated calipers after years of dealing with the crappy remans, couldn't be happier.


If I may ask how long have you had them? Miles?. At this point Im just trying to get good brakes and want them to last until I can rebuild my damn life and move back up to something a bit more fitting to my family. I did a lot of work the I got it and this summer shes gonna need some more love and If I can manage Ill strip the plastic flares off and repaint them just to freshen it up again.
 
Just replaced the calipers, rotors and pads this weekend after my passenger side one stuck on me on Friday. Got them from Advanced with the warranty since it seems to be a common occurrence on these things.
 
Pulled the trigger today. Went with the new Raybestos element3 calipers. Read lots of reviews of them seem to be all positive, the price was around what I would pay after cores and all that and saves me having to send them back.

Says limited iifetime so guess we shall see how that goes. Paid $726 and some change after a coupon and shipping.

Also ordered a full 6 piece stainless steel brake hose set cause why not.
 
Correction the Nugeon brand has limited lifetime. Never heard of them before I don't think.

Nugeon are fine I had them on me E36 BMW...

Cardone kinda sucks. I use Cardone remans (not just brakes... PS pumps, racks etc) all the time for work, but only when I have to. A fair amount are defective out of the box. I just put one of their new PS pumps on my 4runner when I did the Head Gasket job and it is fine for now... But I always wince when I use Cardone. YMMV
 

More crap advice from someone who has proven they don't know what they are talking about (see "Captsolo" banned, this is the same guy)

Do calipers when necessary IE sticking pistons, pistons that retract hard when doing the brake job, or when mileage becomes a concern.
 
Nugeon are fine I had them on me E36 BMW...

Cardone kinda sucks. I use Cardone remans (not just brakes... PS pumps, racks etc) all the time for work, but only when I have to. A fair amount are defective out of the box. I just put one of their new PS pumps on my 4runner when I did the Head Gasket job and it is fine for now... But I always wince when I use Cardone. YMMV

If you wince when you use Cardone, Dorman must be good for full cardiac arrest. I refuse to use their junk.
 
If you wince when you use Cardone, Dorman must be good for full cardiac arrest. I refuse to use their junk.

Interesting, I have had great luck with Dorman products actually. They have some great repair kits that help fix common issues. Town Car intake manifolds, GM exhaust manifolds come to mind quickest. I can't say I have used any of their reman stuff. Frankly, I don't think I have even ever seen a Dorman reman. Napa and Oreilly's tend to use Cardone a lot... I try to use dealer stuff when I can but I am often at the mercy of who can get me the part the fastest. I manage a fleet of 35 livery vehicles and timing in critical.
 
More crap advice from someone who has proven they don't know what they are talking about (see "Captsolo" banned, this is the same guy)

Do calipers when necessary IE sticking pistons, pistons that retract hard when doing the brake job, or when mileage becomes a concern.

You are an AH Warwicke. yOU NEED YOUR MOUTH WASHED OUT WITH SOAP?

I have my brakes done at a professional shop, so your post is BS. I don't touch brakes. I watched a mechanic who works 9 to 5 doing the job struggle with the old frozen calipers. I'm in the Bahamas.

Brake job done once on my 2005 4runner. Brakes fine for approximately 8 years now - so your comment is garbage like your face.

Hop on a plane CS. I got plenty of soap lying around and can back up what I say.

BTW. I am HS All American list. State Champion from NY. Honorable discharge USAF. I once knocked out two grown men at the same time in a bathroom with my fists alone (no kicking or wrestling). Neither threw a punch back. If you don't know how to "swing" that is how it goes. I'm a multimillionaire BTW. What are your credentials?

Just trying to help some that may not have owned a 4runner long. Don't claim to be a mechanic. My backyardian skills end with doing my own oil and filter and differential fluids

But, my 4runner is 15 years old, garaged in a gated community, and in excellent running condition with zero rust.

Again. Give us your (show some) credentials before you run off to the moderator crying.
Credentials please. I just gave you some of mine.

Author: Tax Havens of the World - available at Amazon.com since 1990s.
Passages: Charlie Schlegel, Former Coach, Dies at 89
 
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You are an AH Warwick. yOU NEED YOUR MOUTH WASHED OUT WITH SOAP?

I have my brakes done at a professional shop, so your post is BS. I don't touch brakes. I watched a mechanic who works 9 to 5 doing the job struggle with the old frozen calipers. I'm in the Bahamas.

Brake job done once on my 2005 4runner. Brakes fine for approximately 8 years now - so your comment is garbage like your face.

Hop on a plane CS. I got plenty of soap lying around and can back up what I say.

BTW. I am HS All American list. State Champion from NY. Honorable discharge USAF. I once knocked out two grown men at the same time in a bathroom with my fists alone (no kicking or wrestling). Neither threw a punch back. If you don't know how to "swing" that is how it goes. I'm a multimillionaire BTW. What are your credentials?

Just trying to help some that may not have owned a 4runner long. Don't claim to be a mechanic. My backyardian skills end with doing my own oil and filter and differential fluids.

ASE certified tech here with 18 years experience here pal. Stop making up acronyms and listen more than talk.
 
You are an AH Warwick. yOU NEED YOUR MOUTH WASHED OUT WITH SOAP?

I have my brakes done at a professional shop, so your post is BS. I don't touch brakes. I watched a mechanic who works 9 to 5 doing the job struggle with the old frozen calipers. I'm in the Bahamas.

Brake job done once on my 2005 4runner. Brakes fine for approximately 8 years now - so your comment is garbage like your face.

Hop on a plane CS. I got plenty of soap lying around and can back up what I say.

BTW. I am HS All American list. State Champion from NY. Honorable discharge USAF. I once knocked out two grown men at the same time in a bathroom with my fists alone (no kicking or wrestling). Neither threw a punch back. If you don't know how to "swing" that is how it goes. I'm a multimillionaire BTW. What are your credentials?

Just trying to help some that may not have owned a 4runner long. Don't claim to be a mechanic. My backyardian skills end with doing my own oil and filter and differential fluids

But, my 4runner is 15 years old, garaged in a gated community, and in excellent running condition with zero rust.

Again. Give us your (show some) credentials before you run off to the moderator crying.
Credentials please. I just gave you some of mine.

Author: Tax Havens of the World - available at Amazon.com since 1990s.

Classy response here. You seem like a very stable individual.
 
ok, just picked up my parts order from the dealer (tax free NH!). here's the list:

pad kit $49.61
rotor $76 each
fit kit $14
shim kit $19
reman calipers $110 each

called toyota parts. there told me that the calipers are rebuilt by toyota, using toyota parts, and should perform the same as originals.
 
Im in need of brakes soon and I'm considering doing the 5th gen upgrade all around which isn't gonna be cheap by any means. Im on Rockauto and pretty decided what im getting besides the calipers.

Right now its Raybestos R-300 rotors, Akebono performance pads and im between new or remanufactured calipers both Raybestos.

Anyone recommend one over the other? Why? price wise its pretty close, Its cheaper the reman route by maybe $50-$70 depending on what the shipping costs to send the old ones back but I do have to package the and ship back so that's time and effort aswell.

Going to pick up my 2 cans of caliper paint that I paid $5 for later today :biggrin2:

I"m probably too late, but from my experience and the comments of others on the "5th gen brake upgrade thread", the increase in braking performance is crap. I did the 5th gen brake upgrade to rid myself the frozen caliper issue. It didn't. I live in the rust belt (PA) and my calipers lasted 2 years. Because even reman OEM calipers were stupidly expensive, I went with (can't remember the manufacture nor does RockAuto which is strange.......anyway) calipers that were coated (to prevent rust). I want to say I'm at 3-4 years with no brake issue. As far as feeling an improvement in braking........... meh......... not really. I don't do see (nobody has posted data on the 5th gen caliper upgrade) or feel any increase in braking. The 5th gen brake upgrade is a dud IMO.

Do yourself a favor and just get quality brake hardware for your rig. I like to wrench like the next guy on here, but replacing calipers every year (or often) isn't something I want to do. I don't care about the "lifetime warranty", that just tells me "it's a guaranteed piece of sh++". I have better things to do, with all due respect.

Good luck
 
I have found that Napa has far better quality than places like Rock Auto and Advance Lifetime Warranty calipers. YMMV?
NCH
 
I am going down shortly today to get my 5th gen calipers from NAPA both front and rears. They are remains with a limited lifetime warranty, adaptive one Manufacturer.

I was going to go with the Raybestos element3 but nice to have NAPA local as it will be a lot easier if something goes wrong. I want to paint them red but we’ll see how they look if it’s worth messing with or not.

Already have and need to install

-Centric Rotors front and rears (5th Gen upfront) where the hubs and outside vents are painted black (parts that rust)

-Akebono ASP Pro ceramic pads front and rears

If nothing else they’ll look a lot nice and cleaner than my rusted rotors’ hubs and dingy rusting calipers. I went 5th gen as replacements because why not? Replacing anyways.
 

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