SgnDen
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I just bought 5,000 shares of Frito Lay. Hedging for the run on Cheetos and Fritos in Denver and Seattle.
Come on out Bofa! It'll be fun to watch. Bone-up on your "Dude" language.
Colorado wisdom?
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I just bought 5,000 shares of Frito Lay. Hedging for the run on Cheetos and Fritos in Denver and Seattle.
Come on out Bofa! It'll be fun to watch. Bone-up on your "Dude" language.
Jeremy556
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Probably just like all of the never ending blood baths when the 94 AWB expired, or the unending debauchery when prohibition ended.
Jeremy556
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So roadside sobriety tests no longer stand?
bofa
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Hmm... order some shrockworks you say? One of my favorite things when I was living downtown was having groceries delivered. Hopefully they will never leave the house for more nomnoms.
Haha... maybe we need to set up a munchie truck, a lot like an ice cream truck that drives through neighborhoods all night. $$$$
The pot issue is not too concerning really. I don't have a problem with people that want to use it. Plus like you mentioned, there are quite a few kinks to work out... and there's the whole federal law issue that's still in the way. This was more of a symbolic vote more than anything. Not to say you can't still get it prescribed for a paper cut or stubbing your toe, or so I hear.
The last year stats are available show 202 people died in CO due to drunk drivers. That's tragic.
There's no doubt you are 100% right regarding both reaction time and depth persecution. The requirements to proceed are very involved and nothing will happen for a few years as they work out the details. MMJ is legal, street supply is plentiful so instead of the millions going to Mexico I like the idea of the money staying in the state and helping schools.
Oh yeah, Federal Law trumps State Law...
GrantK
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It's my understanding that roadside tests are enough to arrest but not to convict. That's why they require a breathalyser test for drunk driving. There are already tests for the amount of THC in the body but the pro-legalization groups have been blocking them from being used for medical pot already.
I really don't care that pot has been legalized, down the road it might become a revenue source (taxes). I just want people to be held accountable and give the LEOs tools to protect people from stoned drivers. The supporters want to have their Fritos and eat them too.
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G.I.G.
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This has been an interesting thread to read through. I'm born and raised in CO so I'll chime in with my $0.02 now.
Fireplaces: I believe it is against zoning regulations to build a new home with a wood burning fireplace in most of the Denver metro area. Our house was built in 1988 and has one, but most newer homes have a gas fireplace. As others have mentioned, they actually pull warm air OUT of the house when it's cold and they're not being used, so just something to consider. If you're looking at newer homes, that shouldn't be an issue. My wife prefers the wood burning fireplace, but she doesn't pay the power bill either.
Cooking/Baking at Altitude: Cooking at altitude, for the most part, is no different than cooking at sea level. The one thing to consider though is that water has a lower boiling point here, so it may take a couple minutes longer to cook pasta than you are used to. Baking, on the other hand, is much different here. Most cook books, recopies, and mixes that you buy at the store have high altitude cooking instructions so it's not a big deal.
Windshields: Yes, you will go through them fast here. If CO had a zero deductible windshield coverage plan the insurance companies would jack our rates up in other areas. The best advice I got from a USAA claims adjuster a while back was to lower my comprehensive deductible to $50 from $500. The small amount that my premiums went up due to the lower deductible was more than made up for with the fact that I go through a new windshield every year or two. I'm not a fan of clear bras so the front end of my 4Runner is pitted up pretty badly. I guess that's the price you pay for living here.
Using 4-wheel drive: OK, I guess we're finally on topic for a 5th gen forum! One thing you'll find with driving after a snow storm here is that the main roads will be plowed and clear up faster, while the side roads (especially the shaded ones) can remain iced over for days of even weeks longer. This presents a challenge when you have a part-time only 4-wheel drive 4Runner like the 5th gen. I'm fortunate to have a 4th gen V8 with full-time 4-wheel drive, so driving back and forth between slick, side streets and dry main streets in not a problem. You might find yourself needing to turn 4-wheel drive on and off several times on the same drive even going short distances. My advice would be to take it slow, leaving in in 2-wheel drive when you can so you don't constantly have to go back and forth. My wife is a terrible driver with a rear-wheel drive car in the snow, and she'll be the first to admit it. She has an all-wheel drive Highlander which works great for her. 4-wheel drives give a lot of people a false sense of security here. There is no replacement for winter driving skills and a good set of tires.
Tires in CO: I don't want to get into specifics here, because tire threads always cause debate, so I'll keep it brief. Our winters are very different than they are back east or up north. We don't get as much ice and when we do, it usually melts quickly. I think studded snow tires are overkill in this climate and I would only consider snow tires (like Blizzaks) if I had a two wheel drive car. The roads here are dry more often than not, even in the winter. So you'll tear through snow tires with softer compounds in no time. I would suggest a good set of A/T tires for the 4Runner if you don't already have them. Plus, A/T's are great to have if you want to start exploring some of the great off-road trails CO has to offer. I don't think you would need anything more than an A/T to get around safely in your 4Runner.
CO in the News: You would think from watching the news this summer that this would be a horrible place to live. I know many here would prefer for outsiders to think that, but it's simply not the case. With the fires, the movie theater shooting, and now the passage of "legal" marijuana (which is still illegal at the Federal level, BTW), we still go about our lives without much change. One thing I did notice with the fires and the movie theater massacre is that we all come together as a community in the face of tragedy, and that is why I am very proud of my state.
Finally, you are moving to Broncos Country. John Elway is a god here. You might want to leave the Jaguars gear behind.
Hope that helps. Hope all goes well with your move. Good luck.
Fireplaces: I believe it is against zoning regulations to build a new home with a wood burning fireplace in most of the Denver metro area. Our house was built in 1988 and has one, but most newer homes have a gas fireplace. As others have mentioned, they actually pull warm air OUT of the house when it's cold and they're not being used, so just something to consider. If you're looking at newer homes, that shouldn't be an issue. My wife prefers the wood burning fireplace, but she doesn't pay the power bill either.
Cooking/Baking at Altitude: Cooking at altitude, for the most part, is no different than cooking at sea level. The one thing to consider though is that water has a lower boiling point here, so it may take a couple minutes longer to cook pasta than you are used to. Baking, on the other hand, is much different here. Most cook books, recopies, and mixes that you buy at the store have high altitude cooking instructions so it's not a big deal.
Windshields: Yes, you will go through them fast here. If CO had a zero deductible windshield coverage plan the insurance companies would jack our rates up in other areas. The best advice I got from a USAA claims adjuster a while back was to lower my comprehensive deductible to $50 from $500. The small amount that my premiums went up due to the lower deductible was more than made up for with the fact that I go through a new windshield every year or two. I'm not a fan of clear bras so the front end of my 4Runner is pitted up pretty badly. I guess that's the price you pay for living here.
Using 4-wheel drive: OK, I guess we're finally on topic for a 5th gen forum! One thing you'll find with driving after a snow storm here is that the main roads will be plowed and clear up faster, while the side roads (especially the shaded ones) can remain iced over for days of even weeks longer. This presents a challenge when you have a part-time only 4-wheel drive 4Runner like the 5th gen. I'm fortunate to have a 4th gen V8 with full-time 4-wheel drive, so driving back and forth between slick, side streets and dry main streets in not a problem. You might find yourself needing to turn 4-wheel drive on and off several times on the same drive even going short distances. My advice would be to take it slow, leaving in in 2-wheel drive when you can so you don't constantly have to go back and forth. My wife is a terrible driver with a rear-wheel drive car in the snow, and she'll be the first to admit it. She has an all-wheel drive Highlander which works great for her. 4-wheel drives give a lot of people a false sense of security here. There is no replacement for winter driving skills and a good set of tires.
Tires in CO: I don't want to get into specifics here, because tire threads always cause debate, so I'll keep it brief. Our winters are very different than they are back east or up north. We don't get as much ice and when we do, it usually melts quickly. I think studded snow tires are overkill in this climate and I would only consider snow tires (like Blizzaks) if I had a two wheel drive car. The roads here are dry more often than not, even in the winter. So you'll tear through snow tires with softer compounds in no time. I would suggest a good set of A/T tires for the 4Runner if you don't already have them. Plus, A/T's are great to have if you want to start exploring some of the great off-road trails CO has to offer. I don't think you would need anything more than an A/T to get around safely in your 4Runner.
CO in the News: You would think from watching the news this summer that this would be a horrible place to live. I know many here would prefer for outsiders to think that, but it's simply not the case. With the fires, the movie theater shooting, and now the passage of "legal" marijuana (which is still illegal at the Federal level, BTW), we still go about our lives without much change. One thing I did notice with the fires and the movie theater massacre is that we all come together as a community in the face of tragedy, and that is why I am very proud of my state.
Finally, you are moving to Broncos Country. John Elway is a god here. You might want to leave the Jaguars gear behind.
Hope that helps. Hope all goes well with your move. Good luck.
bofa
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For the sake of space I won't quote, but thank you for chiming in G.I.G.
Fireplaces: Yeah my wife is paranoid about gas and open flames so she's already pushing electric. I don't really care personally... I can just crank up the heat and put in the fireplace DVD.
Windshields: Good idea about the lower deductible to offset the frequency.
Using 4-wheel drive: Hey now.. there is a 5th gen with full time AWD. That's part of another thread where I trying to figure out if I should trade in the SR5 for the Limited since it will be my wife's DD.
Tires in CO: I think a lot here agree with you on tires. I put on Discoverer AT/3s already in anticipation of our move. If/when I end up getting a Trail for me, I'll probably opt for the Duratracs or similar.
CO in the News: Very true - and it is a great area. Maybe some good will come of the bad news... and slow down the migration of us 'outsiders'. Not me though!
Broncos: I've already converted. :biggrin2: I don't think it will be too hard to put the Jags behind me.
Fireplaces: Yeah my wife is paranoid about gas and open flames so she's already pushing electric. I don't really care personally... I can just crank up the heat and put in the fireplace DVD.
Windshields: Good idea about the lower deductible to offset the frequency.
Using 4-wheel drive: Hey now.. there is a 5th gen with full time AWD.
That's part of another thread where I trying to figure out if I should trade in the SR5 for the Limited since it will be my wife's DD. Tires in CO: I think a lot here agree with you on tires. I put on Discoverer AT/3s already in anticipation of our move. If/when I end up getting a Trail for me, I'll probably opt for the Duratracs or similar.
CO in the News: Very true - and it is a great area. Maybe some good will come of the bad news... and slow down the migration of us 'outsiders'. Not me though!
Broncos: I've already converted. :biggrin2: I don't think it will be too hard to put the Jags behind me.
HOJeepster
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You live in Boulder...doesn't that by default classify you as a liberal?:surfer:
GrantK
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No, it means I live in an area infested with liberals.
So I did not read the 9 pages of posts, but...if you work from home - forget the front range!
Crested Butte - um yes.
Want more people - Durango or Telluride.
I'd also suggest Park City, UT (where I live and work from home, big grin)
Jackson Hole, WY... Now you are talking.
Bozeman and Missoula, MT yup.
front range, CO.....not if you have other options.
Crested Butte - um yes.
Want more people - Durango or Telluride.
I'd also suggest Park City, UT (where I live and work from home, big grin)
Jackson Hole, WY... Now you are talking.
Bozeman and Missoula, MT yup.
front range, CO.....not if you have other options.
Victor_inox
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I do and I'm looking. what exactly your company doing?Where do I send my resume?
I move from sarasota to Denver in 2000, want to move back but that probably not happening due to family reasons.
Best schools in the area is Douglas county and cherry creek district. I'm in Douglas and I love my son elementary school. what is your housing budget?
My wife is in Mortgage business and knows a lot about real estate. we leave in Highlands Ranch.
You guys are sooooo lucky.....I'm sooo jealous...
Not to thread hi jack......but I'm proud the op is wanting to "get out".
I wish I could get out out of NYC. This sh!t hole is unbelievable!
I'm thinking more Montana , Wyoming.....but I too fear seeing undesirables like here in new York......this place is THE definition of cesspool.
I'm an immigrant....I did the right thing and became a citizen....pay my taxes like a good soldier. And do the right thing.
I don't feel entitled to anything but freedom. And am tired of not being able to be free to speak my mind for fear of being "racist"....
That being said. To the op, the folks here that are helping him in deciding are doing just that. Helping. Theyre telling you exactly what you should be told.
I would appreciate that too......
Truth.
If some people think that's racist.....well that's too bad.....
I'm still jealous.
And stop coming to ny there's nothing to see here....either looking up at the buildings or anywhere.....please stay where you are......
Effffff NY !!!!!
Not to thread hi jack......but I'm proud the op is wanting to "get out".
I wish I could get out out of NYC. This sh!t hole is unbelievable!
I'm thinking more Montana , Wyoming.....but I too fear seeing undesirables like here in new York......this place is THE definition of cesspool.
I'm an immigrant....I did the right thing and became a citizen....pay my taxes like a good soldier. And do the right thing.
I don't feel entitled to anything but freedom. And am tired of not being able to be free to speak my mind for fear of being "racist"....
That being said. To the op, the folks here that are helping him in deciding are doing just that. Helping. Theyre telling you exactly what you should be told.
I would appreciate that too......
Truth.
If some people think that's racist.....well that's too bad.....
I'm still jealous.
And stop coming to ny there's nothing to see here....either looking up at the buildings or anywhere.....please stay where you are......
Effffff NY !!!!!
GrantK
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bofa,
Some tips on getting used to CO.
You are moving to what is basically high desert. So until you get used to the altitude (a couple of months) avoid caffeine and drink lots of water. A sign of altitude sickness for newbies to the front range is headaches. Drinking lots of water helps your body get used to it faster and prevents the headaches.
If you have a dog you'll be glad to hear that fleas are very rare but we do have ticks. If you have a cat, watch out for Black Widow spiders which are deadly to cats and common here. Also watch out for rattle snakes when walking on trails.
Plan on using a lot more sun screen than you needed in FLA. We get more sun and do to low humidity and high altitude it will burn you in a heart beat. On the other hand, you'll need less DEET for the same reason. I normally only use it at sunset.
Some tips on getting used to CO.
You are moving to what is basically high desert. So until you get used to the altitude (a couple of months) avoid caffeine and drink lots of water. A sign of altitude sickness for newbies to the front range is headaches. Drinking lots of water helps your body get used to it faster and prevents the headaches.
If you have a dog you'll be glad to hear that fleas are very rare but we do have ticks. If you have a cat, watch out for Black Widow spiders which are deadly to cats and common here. Also watch out for rattle snakes when walking on trails.
Plan on using a lot more sun screen than you needed in FLA. We get more sun and do to low humidity and high altitude it will burn you in a heart beat. On the other hand, you'll need less DEET for the same reason. I normally only use it at sunset.
bofa
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I have zero interest in any of those places.
PM me and we can talk more about jobs. Thanks for the input on schools... I think those two are top of our list.
Our budget is not set in stone at the moment but $300-400k is probably where we are looking for now. But like I mentioned earlier, if I can find a good deal on a foreclosure or in an area less developed, I'd certainly consider it and spend less.
bofa
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Thanks for the extra tips Grant. I did learn a lot of those tricks the hard way when I was working there before. I didn't have issues with the altitude but learned real fast how it can affect blood-alcohol levels. My first Denver hangover was my second day in the city.
I learned about sun exposure much in the same way. We went exploring one weekend and it didn't feel hot (not like FL hot) but I was fried after 2 days. Good to know about the pets. Luckily no flea problems with the dogs although one did get Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (of all things...) earlier this year from a tick! They are on good preventatives now though so that should help. Both are mostly indoor dogs too so hopefully that will cut down on exposure. They love to mess with snaked though.
We have crazy spiders (most of the worst are recluse) and snakes galore here, so I'm pretty used to watching my step. I have lots of snake stories unfortunately... one of the best is me seeing a king snake (not all that common, looks a lot like a coral snake) coiled up under my car in the garage after coming home from a wedding. I was pretty inebriated and spent 10 minutes trying to kill it with a machete.
(I swear I'm not a drunk but unfortunately when I do drink, I end up with some kind of interesting story. At least I can remember, right? :beer: ).
GrantK
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I didn't have issues with the altitude but learned real fast how it can affect blood-alcohol levels. My first Denver hangover was my second day in the city.
Yep, makes for a cheap drunk.:bluejump:
Denver area is certainly better than many other places in the US, but the downsides are at least these:
-Inversion and poor air quality
-Traffic, traffic, traffic
-People, people, people
-Fair share of homeless
-You and every other weekend warrior are trying to get to the mountains on a powder day or the weekend.
The world is your oyster with the work from home gig. At least visit some mountain towns before you dismiss them. If Crested Butte doesn't catch your attention after you visit, then yes, Denver metro may be right for you.
-Inversion and poor air quality
-Traffic, traffic, traffic
-People, people, people
-Fair share of homeless
-You and every other weekend warrior are trying to get to the mountains on a powder day or the weekend.
The world is your oyster with the work from home gig. At least visit some mountain towns before you dismiss them. If Crested Butte doesn't catch your attention after you visit, then yes, Denver metro may be right for you.
