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So, I’m been thinking about adding some additional parking lights to the front bumper. Not sure if anyone has done it. I feel like these would be an easy install even for an electrical challenged person like me. They should look clean on the bumper, put a small hole in the bumper and just tap into the marker light wire. Any thoughts?
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Angelo
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I ended up doing the H11 -> H9 incandescent swap and I couldn't be happier with the results, especially for the cost. Definitely more light downrange with no complaints about color and no being flashed by oncomers. I bought Philips H9 bulbs from Amazon for like $12 each and trimmed them with a small wirecutter myself. I recommend it.
Angelo
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More than a few people have done this, it can look really cool if it's done cleanly (read: not too many of them or it's overkill). I think there are a couple linked in the exterior lighting section on page 1. Here's some search results on the topic too, has some good points about wiring, etc...
http://www.toyota-4runner.org/gsear...nner.org/5th-gen-t4rs/&ref=&ss=2623j429369j20
Good luck.
jasxn
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Look up Honda Amber Side Markers for ideas. Used to do these for that JDM look to our integras and civics
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Thanks for your update. After reading all the posts in the forum following your original thread, my head is spinning. I thought about going with H9's also, not wanting to go too far and blind oncoming traffic. So you think the small change in wattage from 55 to 65 wont damage the wiring and electricals? I'm probably gonna start simple, and work my way up the complexity level. I just can't stand the stock lighting at night, especially when it's raining.
DKFTPNYC
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When I first got my truck back then, I changed the fog light bulbs to some Nokya yellow H11 halogens, which were 55w. They eventually melted the chrome reflector (not the lens). It didn't melt completely, but it bubbled up right above where the bulb sat. It never got past a certain point though, just maybe the first half-3/4" right above the bulb.
Angelo
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Sorry I just saw this- if you quote or tag a reply post with an @ username so the user will be notified by the board you'll probably get a quicker response. :hatsoff:
The rundown on the additional electrical draw is in a post swimming around here somewhere and I can't do the electrical math for you but the total amp draw on your battery from switching from 55w (H11) to 65w (H9) bulbs amounts to 0.8 amps, not nearly enough to be a concern for battery or wiring. I've been running these bulbs for over two years with zero issues.
Again, I love the change and I recommend it to anyone asking about headlight upgrades. For the results at $12 a bulb you can't go wrong man.
ALSO: for night driving in the rain, which I can also attest to is both dangerous and frustrating with the stock low beams, I would definitely try RAIN-X on your windshield. I find about a once a week re-apply with it vastly improves my night vision, especially in rain with oncoming headlight glare. It's available in automotive sections at Target / Walmart as well as any automotive supply store for just a few dollars a bottle. See what you think.
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Did you just snip the plastic connector part, or did you have to snip the metal part as well?
This is what DDM told me when I asked which fog lights I should use
"- Toyota Fog Lights (2013+) - Bulbs marked with the following: "H16" "12V 19W" "64219L+" This is a 19W halogen bulb that has a very similar base to the H11. Do not use HID's in these applications, the housings are made of a soft plastic and may melt with 35W HID kits. Please check the bulbs before ordering as it looks like Toyota is using this bulb in many of the new models. Using an H11 LED bulb is recommended."
Angelo
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You have to do a very small amount of metal (from the base fitment) AND plastic (the "plug" divider) snipping, easily accomplished with a small wire cutter. I have also heard of people using a dremel, but I don't currently own one.
Angelo
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LED Update
So as informed by Johnny Law on my way into work one morning, one of my H9s had burned out. I've been reading some good reviews of [MENTION=12905]XenonDepot[/MENTION] 's Extreme LED Pro kit for the the last few months and having run the stock H11s, halogen swap H9s, and previously run their Philips 4200k HID kit, I decided to take the plunge and see what the LEDs had to offer.
As informed by this thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...ed-pro-kit-review-5th-gen-toyota-4runner.html
and: 2018 4Runner Pro LED Upgrade | 4runner LED headlight testing
and some additional reading via Google, I can say the following:
- My installation pics and results with regard to output echo theirs, so much so that it's not worth posting additional pictures.
- The LEDs, clocked appropriately (diodes at 3 and 9 o'clock), are essentially equally as bright as the H9 swap, but obviously a much whiter color temperature.
- The output downrange is very respectable and very well controlled. I have been driving with them now (mainly at night) for a few days and have yet to be flashed by oncoming drivers.
- The install IS slightly cumbersome with regard to spreading the aluminum heatsink leaves, but it can be done effectively. I do wish the included rubber grommets that seal the dust covers were as stout as the ones XenonDepot included with their HIDs. The ones included with this LED kit are a little flimsy in comparison.
Overall, I am satisfied with this swap for those curious.
So as informed by Johnny Law on my way into work one morning, one of my H9s had burned out. I've been reading some good reviews of [MENTION=12905]XenonDepot[/MENTION] 's Extreme LED Pro kit for the the last few months and having run the stock H11s, halogen swap H9s, and previously run their Philips 4200k HID kit, I decided to take the plunge and see what the LEDs had to offer.
As informed by this thread http://www.toyota-4runner.org/5th-g...ed-pro-kit-review-5th-gen-toyota-4runner.html
and: 2018 4Runner Pro LED Upgrade | 4runner LED headlight testing
and some additional reading via Google, I can say the following:
- My installation pics and results with regard to output echo theirs, so much so that it's not worth posting additional pictures.
- The LEDs, clocked appropriately (diodes at 3 and 9 o'clock), are essentially equally as bright as the H9 swap, but obviously a much whiter color temperature.
- The output downrange is very respectable and very well controlled. I have been driving with them now (mainly at night) for a few days and have yet to be flashed by oncoming drivers.
- The install IS slightly cumbersome with regard to spreading the aluminum heatsink leaves, but it can be done effectively. I do wish the included rubber grommets that seal the dust covers were as stout as the ones XenonDepot included with their HIDs. The ones included with this LED kit are a little flimsy in comparison.
Overall, I am satisfied with this swap for those curious.
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Wolfpacker
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Fog Lights
When taking off the front bumper (2017 TRD Off Road Model) I snapped one of the wires to the fog light. This was the smaller of the 2 wires connecting to the light and it broke between the plug bracket and the light, so the plug connecting to the truck is still in tact.
I didn't have time to dig into the light assembly but I was wondering if there is a plug connector at the light side of the wire, and if I can just replace that connecting wire or is there more to it? I'd like to know what the fix is before I pull the bumper off again. Is the bigger wire for the main bulb, and the smaller wire for the LEDs that surround it?
Thanks.
When taking off the front bumper (2017 TRD Off Road Model) I snapped one of the wires to the fog light. This was the smaller of the 2 wires connecting to the light and it broke between the plug bracket and the light, so the plug connecting to the truck is still in tact.
I didn't have time to dig into the light assembly but I was wondering if there is a plug connector at the light side of the wire, and if I can just replace that connecting wire or is there more to it? I'd like to know what the fix is before I pull the bumper off again. Is the bigger wire for the main bulb, and the smaller wire for the LEDs that surround it?
Thanks.
I've got the H11 Xtreme LED Pro Headlight Kit in my cart but was wondering if people have just installed them by stuffing everything inside the projector housing instead of drilling a hole. I really don't want any kind of condensation issues. I know it's better to leave the heatsink on the other side of the dust cap and drill a hole but what are the side effects? Anyone jut stuff it and have any issues?
Angelo
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1- I don't think it's possible, not enough room... and...
2- Even if it did, that's a whole lot of hot electronics to be trying to stuff into a very small space
I'd plan on installing it the way it's intended. I've yet to hear about anyone having condensation issues and I've probably read every install writeup and review on these kits out there. You'll be fine with an appropriately drilled hole (~1"), and the grommet is also pretty stout, but if it still makes you nervous, seal the grommet with silicone and waive the fire risk.
Do you mean leaving the heatsink outside, or the driver outside of the housing? Leaving the heatsink outside would be a terrible idea since there would be no way to properly seal it. A number of posts have popped up lately about condensation with the HID kits, so even if just passing the driver wire through a grommet, you would still want to use silicone. Take a look at the Diode Dynamics SL1; it apparently all fits inside the housing.
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XenonDepot
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Unfortunately, there isn't enough room inside of the housing on the 4runner so you will need to drill a hole in the cover and seal it with the rubber grommet that comes with the Xtreme LED Pro kit.
Take a look at this great review and install guide:
2017 Toyota 4Runner LED Kit review | 2017 Toyota 4Runner LED kit Install Guide
Danny
