Costco refusing to install BFG KO2 265/70/17 with S112 speed rating. Any advice

[Striker4hire]

Hi, after confirming availability on the phone I went to Costco to get the BFG Ko2s installed on my 2015 Trail. The guy there told me that he could not install them as the speed rating on the tire is S112 and the minimum recommend speed rating is S113.
It was strange as Discount tires recommended the exact same tires.
I tried looking the minimum specs online without much luck. Any advice?

 

[NoLight]

Go some place else.

 

[JP421]

Go some place else.

:first:

 

[samwhich]

Hi, after confirming availability on the phone I went to Costco to get the BFG Ko2s installed on my 2015 Trail. The guy there told me that he could not install them as the speed rating on the tire is S112 and the minimum recommend speed rating is S113.
It was strange as Discount tires recommended the exact same tires.
I tried looking the minimum specs online without much luck. Any advice?

No reason NOT to go to discount tire, the price and service is impossible to beat, they will price match anything you could have gotten at Costco, just ask.

 

[comtn4x4]

Costco= no free tire rotations and no alignment. Why go to two shops to get one job done? Numerous tire shops will match price

 

[4Regrets]

They aren't refusing to mount them because of the speed rating, it is because of the load rating. Lots of tire shops won't mount tires if the load rating is lower than what is spec'd by the manufacturer for the vehicle. That's the case here. They would happily mount a 121Q tire for you.

Discount Tire is great for price matching and customer service, but I've patronized Discount Tire stores in Michigan, Utah, Colorado, Idaho and Washington, and without fail, they manage to scratch at least one of my wheels every single time. I generally keep my vanity in check, so it doesn't really bother me, but something to be aware of.

 

[5thToy]

Show them where Toyota delivers the Limited trim with 107 load rated tires.

 

[catrains]

Hi, after confirming availability on the phone I went to Costco to get the BFG Ko2s installed on my 2015 Trail. The guy there told me that he could not install them as the speed rating on the tire is S112 and the minimum recommend speed rating is S113.
It was strange as Discount tires recommended the exact same tires.
I tried looking the minimum specs online without much luck. Any advice?

I do have problems with Costco tire work. they are not professional. the last time I had my tires replaced they sprayed brake cleaner on my aluminum wheels . destroyed the finish ..then I made them replace those wheels.. then when lifted the vehicle off the ground tires off the ground and torqued the nuts causing the u joint to get damaged.. the axle was snapping when they torqued the nuts ,,,, idiots !!!

I kept telling that guy , stop using brake cleaner on my wheels ..
since I have other vehicles I over the years I only bring the wheels to the Costco tire shop not the vehicle,, but the last time , I was the idiot to have them break my ride..

 

[Toda R]

Advice.... don't go to Costco. Friend had a Tacoma and they wouldn't even sell him the same exact tire size that came OEM with his model because they said it wasn't rated for that vehicle. Had another friend get tires replaced to find they broke his TPMS (literally cracked the sensor off), they refused to remove the tire to check the sensor and kept saying it was a dead battery. Friend got so fed up with it took it somewhere else and that's when he found the sensor was broken off.

Yeah, don't go to Costco.

 

[Jetboy]

I do have problems with Costco tire work. they are not professional. the last time I had my tires replaced they sprayed brake cleaner on my aluminum wheels . destroyed the finish ..then I made them replace those wheels.. then when lifted the vehicle off the ground tires off the ground and torqued the nuts causing the u joint to get damaged.. the axle was snapping when they torqued the nuts ,,,, idiots !!!

I kept telling that guy , stop using brake cleaner on my wheels ..
since I have other vehicles I over the years I only bring the wheels to the Costco tire shop not the vehicle,, but the last time , I was the idiot to have them break my ride..

Why were they doing anything with brake cleaner?

Also - 83 lb/ft on the lug nuts should not cause any damage to anything on the vehicle. You'd need something like 100 times the force to get into the range of damaging anything. The failure strength is probably in the range of 7,500 ft/lb. In short - it's pretty unlikely that they damaged your axle by torquing the lug nuts. If they somehow damaged your axle - it wasn't related to torquing the lug nuts on.

 

[nimby]

They are doing you a favor. Go elsewhere.

Buying tires at Costco sucks because there is a 3 hour wait every time you go to get your tires rotated.

They have like 3 stalls for every 20 tire customers.

When's the last time you saw an empty Costco during business hours?

 

[83Mule]

I think He is saying they torqued the lugs with the BF airgun and the wheels sent the shock through the rear end to the driveshaft yoke and broke the bolts with the rapid shock loading....probably not good for the ring and pinion either!

 

[mteolus]

"S112 and the minimum recommend speed rating is S113."

Wow, good thing Costco is so safety conscience, that is a massive difference. :drum:

 

[Dillusion]

Its a policy thing and I don't blame um.

We don't budge from our policies either even if it is a small difference. You budge once you gonna have to do it again. And with this sue happy world better to be safe.

 

[ravens_wood]

Hi, after confirming availability on the phone I went to Costco to get the BFG Ko2s installed on my 2015 Trail. The guy there told me that he could not install them as the speed rating on the tire is S112 and the minimum recommend speed rating is S113.
It was strange as Discount tires recommended the exact same tires.
I tried looking the minimum specs online without much luck. Any advice?

Go elsewhere. Costco Tire Shop is a by the book robotic operation. If you ask them to do anything out of manufacturer spec they'll refuse. Don't blame them since they're always busy af.

 

[Cndnmax]

Last time I went to Costco they install a completely different tire than I had ordered. Had to wait another hr for them to fix their mistake. Atleast they have free road hazard warranty.

 

[Jetboy]

I think He is saying they torqued the lugs with the BF airgun and the wheels sent the shock through the rear end to the driveshaft yoke and broke the bolts with the rapid shock loading....probably not good for the ring and pinion either!

I just don't think that's possible. Even with an air impact. The drive shaft would have a natural gear reduction in torque of 4:1. So you'd have to have an extremely high amount of torque on a wheel to damage something upstream of the diff. It takes a LOT of effort to break the driveline components on these. The engine in 4Lo will apply as much as 10,000 ft/lb of torque on the axle shafts. And they won't break. I don't see how anything related to lug nuts could possibly get close to that. The lug nuts will break off at less than 200 ft/lb. It's multiple orders of magnitude off of the realm that it would need to be in to cause damage.

The hub nut that holds the CV shaft in the hub assembly takes more torque than the lug nuts can withstand before breaking. IIRC it's something like 250 ft'lb. If it were possible to break or damage the driveline - every time someone re-installs a front CV they'd be damaging parts or risking damage. You never have the wheel on for that process. You can't. The dust cover still needs to be installed before you put the wheel on.

 

[PittRunner]

I had 275/70/R17 Ko2 put on at Costco,I have been buying tires and having them balanced and rotated for free for years, they allways Torque to spec.and recommend re Torque after 40 Km.which I do myself.They also fix punctures free.Good service in my opinion..

 

[5thToy]

I had 275/70/R17 Ko2 put on at Costco,I have been buying tires and having them balanced and rotated for free for years, they allways Torque to spec.and recommend re Torque after 40 Km.which I do myself.They also fix punctures free.Good service in my opinion..

They would have no concern with that tire as it is an E with a load rating in excess of the stock 113, just as they would have had no issue with the 265 in an E load.

I'll say again that all of the above have a safety margin as Toyota ships the same vehicle in Limited trim with a 107.

 

[MAST4R]

They would have no concern with that tire as it is an E with a load rating in excess of the stock 113, just as they would have had no issue with the 265 in an E load.

I'll say again that all of the above have a safety margin as Toyota ships the same vehicle in Limited trim with a 107.

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And that has implications for what the actual needed safety margins are per tire when running LT. There is a whole thread about LT tire pressures but it is based entirely on the notion that 113 needs to be met. Once 107 is taken as the baseline, things change quite dramatically when it comes to the needed LT pressures to meet the safety margin.