Crankshaft and Camshaft Seal Removal Tools

mtbtim

mtbtim

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Hey Dudes,

I'm looking for suggestions for a crankshaft and camshaft seal removal tool. Instead of digging in there with a screwdriver and prying it out like I've seen in some videos, I'd rather have a specific tool that will do the job without causing any damage to the crankshaft.

I found a tool to remove and install the camshaft seals. I'm thinking of buying this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080IG53A/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AUFI5NHGNZ61

I've seen some crankshaft and camshaft seal removal/installation kits that have mixed reviews.

Any help from people who have actually replaced these seals would be appreciated. What method and tool did you use?

Thanks!
 
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Tim, A good method to remove the seal is to drive two wood-screws to the seal (180 degrees apart) and pull the screw out. That is how I do the seals.
 
mtbtim said:
Hey Dudes,

I'm looking for suggestions for a crankshaft and camshaft seal removal tool. Instead of digging in there with a screwdriver and prying it out like I've seen in some videos, I'd rather have a specific tool that will do the job without causing any damage to the crankshaft.

I found a tool to remove and install the camshaft seals. I'm thinking of buying this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080IG53A/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AUFI5NHGNZ61

I've seen some crankshaft and camshaft seal removal/installation kits that have mixed reviews.

Any help from people who have actually replaced these seals would be appreciated. What method and tool did you use?

Thanks!
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I think this one is the simplest and fastest/ cleanest.

https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-58430-Shaft-Type-Puller/dp/B000FPYW4K
 
Use the aforementioned Lisle tool to remove all the seals. I used an Estwing 5oz tack hammer to gently knock the new ones in, placing grease on the inner lip and a drop of oil on the outside housing of the new seal. No leaks in four years. Have used this method on other engines, no leaks that I can recall.
 
mtbtim said:
Quite a lot of negative reviews on this tool. I take it does work good for our engines and that's why you've recommended it.
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That's the one I used for my seals. I had no problems except, sometimes the fulcrum point will move if you don't tighten the screw enough.
 
Thanks for the feedback dudes. I've got the Lisle tool in my Amazon shopping cart. Would be interested if anyone else has a tool they like for this purpose.
 
As aforementioned, I've always carefully used the wood screw method. I like to wrap tape around a 1/16" drill bit for a depth gauge and use it to make a pilot hole so the screw can immediately bite and not go too deep.

As someone else mentioned grease the lip that the shaft will rotate on and use some form of lube around the outside of the seal, oil or the like. Personally I use green assembly loctite, 573, and, for grease I favor Honda's "Super Hi Temp Urea Grease" P/N 08798-9002 Wish is also really great for clutch stuff and rear axle seals.
 
The Lisle tool in action:
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Thanks for suggestions. I'm going to buy the Lisle tool and keep the wood screw method in mind as a backup.
 
Are there other areas that the Lisle tool would be of use?

Hard to justify buying a specialized tool if it will only be used maybe a handful of times. I used the wood screw method to remove my cam + crank seals, works great. Probably won't have to touch these seals again for atleast 5+ years.
 
nobb said:
Are there other areas that the Lisle tool would be of use?

Hard to justify buying a specialized tool if it will only be used maybe a handful of times. I used the wood screw method to remove my cam + crank seals, works great. Probably won't have to touch these seals again for atleast 5+ years.
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It's only $15. If it works well, it's worth it.
 
mtbtim said:
Hey Dudes,

I'm looking for suggestions for a crankshaft and camshaft seal removal tool. Instead of digging in there with a screwdriver and prying it out like I've seen in some videos, I'd rather have a specific tool that will do the job without causing any damage to the crankshaft.

I found a tool to remove and install the camshaft seals. I'm thinking of buying this one:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0080IG53A/ref=ox_sc_sfl_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A1AUFI5NHGNZ61

I've seen some crankshaft and camshaft seal removal/installation kits that have mixed reviews.

Any help from people who have actually replaced these seals would be appreciated. What method and tool did you use?

Thanks!
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Does this mean there is a timing belt, water pump, and cam/crank seals video coming soon?
 
nobb said:
Are there other areas that the Lisle tool would be of use?

Hard to justify buying a specialized tool if it will only be used maybe a handful of times. I used the wood screw method to remove my cam + crank seals, works great. Probably won't have to touch these seals again for atleast 5+ years.
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You may feel otherwise but, for me, the right tool for the job gives me a lot of peace of mind. If you are confident in your method, there's nothing wrong with that.
 
IsaiahC said:
Does this mean there is a timing belt, water pump, and cam/crank seals video coming soon?
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Not in the immediate future but maybe within the next 2-3 months. Gonna take some time off and do a road trip out to Idaho for some mountain biking, hiking and camping. Might check out Montana too.

I'm still in the research phase for this job and I need a willing guinea pig. The idea is to do it for [MENTION=102606]infamousRNR[/MENTION], but if he passes, I'm going to put it out there for a local Bay Area 3rd Gen owner who's looking to get this job done and wants to save some coin. My truck won't be due for this job until around 200,000 miles and I'm only at 145,000 right now.

I would definitely like the challenge since it is a fairly involved job and I'm sure people would love to have a more complete video documentation of how to do it. There is one video I've seen on YouTube that is pretty good, but we'll take it up a few notches in the quality and completeness department.
 
LittleCaesar said:
Considering this link is dead now that would be a good idea:
www.nwtoys.com/forum/tech-article-submissions/1261-5vz-fe-timing-belt.html

On the grand scope of things this timing belt change isn't hard, it just takes a little time to complete.

Getting the cam pulleys off is the PITA. The removal and installation of all the seals with the Lisle tool and the tack hammer make it fast work.
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I use my crank pulley holder against the frame to hold the crank still while the old timing belt is on, crack the cam bolts loose. Easy peasy. Also a 1/2" impact works well.

I'm surprised that the Lisle tool gets such bad reviews. I like it, worked great for me. I've also used the screw into the seal method, the Lisle tool is much quicker.

I agree with [MENTION=69868]LittleCaesar[/MENTION], the 5VZ timing belt is not hard, just time consuming. Try a minivan then you will know what difficult is. Worse yet, the PT Cruiser.
 
Yeah, from what I've gathered, it's not a super technical job but it's still fairly involved and might be intimidating for your average DIY mechanic to tackle. I've never done one on any engine. I want to do a complete video documentation of it to take any guesswork out so people watching the video will have the confidence they need to do it themselves.

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Today we did the TB service and found leaky cam shaft seals.

The guy doing it had some experience, so the way we did it was to take a very small drill bit, carefully drill a small hole in the outer surface so as not to touch the camshaft or raceway surface, and then run a small screw into the hole.

That screw gave us enough grip to just pull them out.

Of note, is the Autozone replacement seals were about half the thickness of the ones that we pulled out.

I found the exact replacement for the seals we pulled out at OReilly, same ID, OD, and thickness.

http://www.oreillyauto.com/site/c/detail/BCA0/223801/02344.oap

https://www.amazon.com/National-223801-Oil-Seal/dp/B000C5J0JU

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