Curb weight, payload, etc question...

[mainerunr]

OK, so something doesn't add up to me here...

Toyota lists curb weight for a TRD ORP at 4750 and GVWR at 6300 so how is payload only ~880? What am I missing here?

 

[bglfgd]

I don't think you're missing anything. All models with the locking rear differential are rated lower than the ones without it. IIRC my SR5 is rated just a tad over 1000 lbs payload.

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[mainerunr]

I don't think you're missing anything. All models with the locking rear differential are rated lower than the ones without it. IIRC my SR5 is rated just a tad over 1000 lbs payload.

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A payload of around 1000# seems really low relative to GVWR-Curb Weight.
Payload should be GVWR- Curb Weight so it seems like it should be ~1500lb.

If the rear locker reduces it that much, the GVWR they note should be reduced as well.

Has anyone put one of these on a scale stock just to see what it actually weighs (full tank of gas)?

Guess my ex-wife's Tacoma's payload rating makes more sense now, that was under 1000# but she's got a TRD Off Road, minivans have more payload.

I'm probably a little spoiled, my F150 has over 1800lb payload and it doesn't even have the payload package or max tow...

 

[Whippersnapper02]

As a previous 2nd gen Tacoma owner and now a 5th gen 4Runner owner, they're simply not made to do work.

 

[bglfgd]

A payload of around 1000# seems really low relative to GVWR-Curb Weight.
Payload should be GVWR- Curb Weight so it seems like it should be ~1500lb.

If the rear locker reduces it that much, the GVWR they note should be reduced as well.

Has anyone put one of these on a scale stock just to see what it actually weighs (full tank of gas)?

Guess my ex-wife's Tacoma's payload rating makes more sense now, that was under 1000# but she's got a TRD Off Road, minivans have more payload.

I'm probably a little spoiled, my F150 has over 1800lb payload and it doesn't even have the payload package or max tow...

Just looked at the manual - 1165 lbs, 835lbs for those with locking diff. Guessing the lower number accounts for when the differential is actually locked - if unlocked it can likely handle what the open is rated for easily.

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[02SE]

It's been my theory that this was Toyota's way of limiting the potential torque load on a single axle shaft when the diff is locked.

If operating with the diff open, I'd have no concerns about using the payload figure for open-diff 4Runners.

 

[mainerunr]

It's been my theory that this was Toyota's way of limiting the potential torque load on a single axle shaft when the diff is locked.

If operating with the diff open, I'd have no concerns about using the payload figure for open-diff 4Runners.

The problem I have is wrapping my head around why the payload in either case does not match GVWR-curb weight. That is how everyone else does it, Toyota seems to just pull numbers out of nowhere...