Decided to go with Tundra front coils..

[hawkcharmer]

1999 3rd Gen 4runner.

I just installed OME 906 springs/ Bilstein 5100 24-9966 (4runner specific) for the rear. Im now trying to decide on the correct shock for front. Im going to use new front Tundra coils with a spring rate around #600.

Should I purchase Bilstein 5100 24-261415 (99-06 Tundra firmer valving) or the 4runner specific front shock Bilstein 5100 24-248730?
Will the firmer valved shock be too much for the 3rd gen 4runner? Need to purchase asap. Thank you

 

[shadow247]

Depends what you want. 4Runner shock will be a bit softer than the Tundra for sure. I would do the 4Runner Shocks with the Tundra springs. The Tundra Shocks are pretty stiff IMO. I have some KYB's on the front of my 4runner, and they are much stiffer than any stock 4runner I have seen.

 

[NJ-4Runner]

1999 3rd Gen 4runner.

I just installed OME 906 springs/ Bilstein 5100 24-9966 (4runner specific) for the rear. Im now trying to decide on the correct shock for front. Im going to use new front Tundra coils with a spring rate around #600.

Should I purchase Bilstein 5100 24-261415 (99-06 Tundra firmer valving) or the 4runner specific front shock Bilstein 5100 24-248730?
Will the firmer valved shock be too much for the 3rd gen 4runner? Need to purchase asap. Thank you

I would think that the firmer valved shock is designed for the spring not necessarily the truck correct? For example if you design a shock for a
300lb spring rate the shock wouldn't be able control the motion of a 600lb spring. The 600lb spring would overcome the valving of the 300lb shock. Same thing is true the other way around. A shock designed for a 600lb spring rate would have WAY too much resistance for a 300lb spring.

Would this come into play for your situation? What is the stock spring rate for the 4Runner vs. the Tundra. Are they almost the same?

 

[3bears]

havent installed yet but I went with the tundra springs, billies for that and lc springs with tokico shocks.
I had toyota talls with kyb and that was a nice set up and the ride was very good. my 265/75/16 KO2's cleared with no issues...when shocks and springs new.
now with about 50k on them...the clearance is not good on the same tire size..yet new tries. the rear shocks are leaking. I was prob 70/30 gravel and forest service roads to pavement....i did push them a bit
Im adding a winch and an ARB bumper up front.. thats why I made this jump. I can not tell you about ride quality...just going off info learned on this forum when I ordered stuff

 

[4r3_yvr]

just installed this setup yesterday on a '97 limited. Took it for a quick drive afterwards and the ride is surprisingly nice. Feels very OEM.

Tundra 5100s (24-261425) on 3rd perch with OME881 springs & 4runner 5100s (24-24966) with OEM906 springs in the rear.

I need to measure up today but from the looks of it I may need bigger tires.

 

[hawkcharmer]

just installed this setup yesterday on a '97 limited. Took it for a quick drive afterwards and the ride is surprisingly nice. Feels very OEM.

Tundra 5100s (24-261425) on 3rd perch with OME881 springs & 4runner 5100s (24-24966) with OEM906 springs in the rear.

I need to measure up today but from the looks of it I may need bigger tires.

Your front isn't too high on 3rd perch? I've contemplated the 881 for front because they are inexpensive. Are they super stiff? They are #500 spring rate

 

[Devbot]

I am LOVING the TRD/Tundra combo. Floats like a dream no matter whats thrown at it. Set mine at the 3rd perch and it sits pretty nicely with my 210v/Tokicos in the rear, maybe 1-1.5in of rake with no extra weight, usually I don't like rake but having a small amount make it have a nice aggressive look (adding bumpers soon anyways). My front is 2.5in or more than before, installed a diff drop to be safe and the CV angle isn't bad at all.

 

[96RedRunner]

Will the firmer valved shock be too much for the 3rd gen 4runner? Need to purchase asap. Thank you

Stock tires, stock weight I'd go Runner valving Toyota didn't over engineer nor did aftermarket shock makers.
Ran the Tundra/LC 5100's OE springs 140k mi rode really good passenger's opinions.
Had winch 85-90#, lotta stuff in cargo, 33" 10 ply tires steel wheels.
Makes a difference how you set yours up.

 

[96RedRunner]

I've contemplated the 881 for front because they are inexpensive....

You get what you pay for. OE springs get 200k mi, 881's I put 20k mi on felt like they were 50k mi springs.

 

[Bad Luck]

Your front isn't too high on 3rd perch? I've contemplated the 881 for front because they are inexpensive. Are they super stiff? They are #500 spring rate

Tundra coils are progressive coil rate, but they start around 600 lb/in spring rate and get higher from there the more they compress. Just to give you something to compare it to.

 

[hawkcharmer]

I would think that the firmer valved shock is designed for the spring not necessarily the truck correct? For example if you design a shock for a
300lb spring rate the shock wouldn't be able control the motion of a 600lb spring. The 600lb spring would overcome the valving of the 300lb shock. Same thing is true the other way around. A shock designed for a 600lb spring rate would have WAY too much resistance for a 300lb spring.

Would this come into play for your situation? What is the stock spring rate for the 4Runner vs. the Tundra. Are they almost the same?

3rd gen coils are: 160# for the rear and I think I heard that the fronts are 500-525#.
It makes complete sense that the firmer valved Tundra shock option would be designed to work better with the front tundra spring. I’m not sure that anyone is running the 4Runner specific bilstein front shock with the tundra front Spring. So I may go with the former valved shock option. Would I be able to run cbi front bumper and winch with this set-up or is that pushing it with the #600 tundra front coils??

 

[4r3_yvr]

Your front isn't too high on 3rd perch? I've contemplated the 881 for front because they are inexpensive. Are they super stiff? They are #500 spring rate

I started at the 2nd perch and there was too much rake IMO. 3rd perch has the front sitting at 22" (36 1/8") and the rear at 22.5" (37")