Diesel coming in 2016

4runners and Tacomas are sold in countries that sell Toyota diesels, but they aren't sold at near the volume as the US. No reason for them to put a diesel in such a small portion of those vehicles sold. Besides, I would much rather see the diesel LC's offered here before I'd buy a diesel 4runner.
 
wfo9 said:
Not really, No Tacos with a diesel. Those are Hilux (not sold here). Also no 4Runners, I'm pretty sure those are Prados (which are sold here as a Lexus GX)....

Toyota will never sell a diesel in a SUV or small truck in North America. They have been asked and responded with simple math explaining why several times.
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My bad, I read some wrong information. No Taco diesels :tape:

Older generation 4Runners did have diesels available, though. They were available as late as 4th gen in Latin America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Fourth_generation_.28N210.3B_2002.E2.80.932009.29

That said, the Hilux is similar, and if they can put a diesel in a Hilux they can put the exact same diesel in a Tacoma. They could also market the Hilux in the USA.

They just choose not to, and I'm sure they have the accounting numbers to back up that decision.
 
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jwkilgore said:
My bad, I read some wrong information. No Taco diesels :tape:

Older generation 4Runners did have diesels available, though. They were available as late as 4th gen in Latin America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner#Fourth_generation_.28N210.3B_2002.E2.80.932009.29

That said, the Hilux is similar, and if they can put a diesel in a Hilux they can put the exact same diesel in a Tacoma. They could also market the Hilux in the USA.

They just choose not to, and I'm sure they have the accounting numbers to back up that decision.
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It's not a choice really.

It would be illegal to sell that diesel in the US. To make it legal , the cost would go up an additional 5k just for the emissions stuff. Add another few K for the cost of the motor and it would be 10k more than a petrol version that makes more power....And they would still be loosing money on it. Then diesels would be outlawed completely in the US by the time they made their losses back. The writing is on the wall.
 
probos said:
"2016 Toyota 4Runner diesel will be off-road car with luxurious style. Toyota is known as a car manufacturer with high quality and durable machine."

That should be enough to tell you the site is bogus.
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I'm not sure I'm seeing the flags. Could you elaborate? ;)
 
I don't think VW will survive it - at least not the current entity of VW. If you just look at the basic math of 11 million vehicles with the cheat software that have emissions systems that likely cannot be used continuously over time means VW is looking at a retrofit SCR (urea) system for 11 million cars. If that costs $3,000 per vehicle, it's $30Billion just for that part of it. Add a class action law suit for even just $2000 per car and that's another $20 Billion. The entire market cap of VW is only $50 billion. VW is probably already insolvent.
 
Whiplash Willy said:
Ive been following this whole "Diesel Gate" Scandal, as I have previously owned 2 VW "Clean Diesels". I seriously wounder if VW is going to survive this, and what this will mean for small diesels in the US.
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VW will survive, but they'll be on life support for a while.

Mainly because they won't have to fix 11 million cars. That's worldwide, and includes all cars ever made with the system. Some have been wrecked. But a very large number will simply be in countries without a law requiring the fix, or where it'll be easy for the owner to ignore the fix. Only a half million or so in the USA.

I'm betting the fix will be a software flash to force running in "test mode" full time. This will hurt fuel economy and/or power, so there will be a mass class-action lawsuit. VW will settle out of court and the lawyers will get a huge payday. VW will survive. Lawyers will prosper. It's the owners of affected vehicles who'll get screwed.

They will get a check for $100 to pay for the extra $1000 in fuel they'll have to buy over the life of the vehicle. And they'll be stuck with it forever because resale value just bottomed out.

I do agree with the theory that passenger-car diesels are now and forevermore dead in this country.
 
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