Do you drive with a gun?

Do you drive with a gun?

  • No and I would rather not

    Votes: 128 13.5%
  • No but I would like to

    Votes: 158 16.6%
  • No gun but I drive with a different weapon

    Votes: 60 6.3%
  • Yes I drive with a gun

    Votes: 479 50.4%
  • Yes I drive with multiple guns

    Votes: 126 13.2%

  • Total voters
    951
Say your sittin in your truck and a dude walks up to you and tries pull in you out of your truck you push him back and he starts reaching for a gun but you grab your shotty before he gets the chance you pull it out he continues to get his gun and you pull the trigger before he shoots you... Yeah you avoided your rig being stolen and your alive but guess what.....your probably gonna go to jail on several charges. The gun has zero purpose being in your vehicle loaded other than you feel cool and safe having it there... Not to mention if ya do get stopped and they find it kiss your guns goodbye along with the chance of getting that pistol 11 days after your 21st

Exactly. You're left alive when the scumbag trying to car jack and/or kill you is not. I, for one, see absolutely no problem here. Obviously, it's not worth taking a life over your rig, but if someone is trying to kill me, and I'm a little faster on the trigger, I'm not going to feel bad about it one bit.

Going to jail on a couple weapons charges is a small price to pay for your life.

I have been raised around guns. My dad was a cop and we have been hunting all my life. Maybe that has something to do with our difference in opinions....
 
Exactly. You're left alive when the scumbag trying to car jack and/or kill you is not. I, for one, see absolutely no problem here. Obviously, it's not worth taking a life over your rig, but if someone is trying to kill me, and I'm a little faster on the trigger, I'm not going to feel bad about it one bit.

Going to jail on a couple weapons charges is a small price to pay for your life.

I have been raised around guns. My dad was a cop and we have been hunting all my life. Maybe that has something to do with our difference in opinions....

And with a good lawyer, you will probably get community service.
 
And with a good lawyer, you will probably get community service.

I think it is much, much more likely that an illegal firearm (according to CA) gets you in severe legal trouble than it ends up saving your life. But if you feel your life is in danger, I guess you do what you gotta do.
 
Not to offend you or anything but California has so many ridiculous laws for guns because 1 we have so so many people that don't understand and/or have never shot any firearm. 2 because lawmakers believe "take the guns away we stop the crime" ( I say BULLSH!T!! Guns used in crimes are illegal and us responsible people use them for good reasons!) and 3rd because people like you doing as you choose to and breaking the law. You have a loaded shotgun in your truck for what reason? Say your sittin in your truck and a dude walks up to you and tries pull in you out of your truck you push him back and he starts reaching for a gun but you grab your shotty before he gets the chance you pull it out he continues to get his gun and you pull the trigger before he shoots you... Yeah you avoided your rig being stolen and your alive but guess what.....your probably gonna go to jail on several charges. The gun has zero purpose being in your vehicle loaded other than you feel cool and safe having it there... Not to mention if ya do get stopped and they find it kiss your guns goodbye along with the chance of getting that pistol 11 days after your 21st

Its nothing about being cool, Trust me. Im not worried about going to jail for it. I HATE CALIFORNIA. as soon as i graduate im leaving.

I grew up with guns as well, I dont think anything about it. Its just part of life. Im use to it. Im a hunter too. Here is the deal. You can do a lot as long as you keep a low profile. If a cop asked if I had a firearm i would say no without a thought. I cant help my libertarian thoughts... I dont feel safer with cops around, They have not helped me yet. I generally feel uneasy around the Cops even if im not breaking a single law.

Im not offended at all either. We are entitled to our own opinions. There are things I do you wouldnt, or you would feel very uncomfortable doing. And there are probably things you do that i would never do. I cant believe you are 100% law abiding. Its part of being American to break the rules a little. They are there to break =)
 
I dont feel safer with cops around, They have not helped me yet. I generally feel uneasy around the Cops even if im not breaking a single law.
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Agreed. Seemingly they always play the "guilty until PROVEN innocent" thing.

As my gf's dad stated once: There's a fine line between a cop and a criminal. But there's a huge line that separates a cop from a good cop..
 
I don't wanna send the wrong message here. I love my firearms very much. I just choose to go threw the loopholes with California state law. We have a roster for pistols and if it's not "roster approved" ya can't buy it new (unless LE) only third party. So I went to Alaska and bought myself a Ruger lcp and carried it full battery daily in my pocket. But I do feel that a gun is the last resort for any situation unless your comin across an animal... I do prefer to carry a ka-bar on my side everyday

I'll properly reply later for now I'm going to enjoy my 1 dollar pints at downtown joes in support of the brewing network :beer:
 
This would be an issue but he stated the women had been trained and had shot a gun before. The only people I think that would have their gun taken from them are people not trained who freeze what the moment comes up. If you don't want to take the proper courses then your just as bad as the people your trying to protect yourself from.
Yah I remember him saying his wife was trained, thats why I said it didn't have to be that situation, it could be any similar situation. What if while your distracted by one perp, another one comes from behind and then you'd be out numbered. I agree that this is a very unlikely situation but could it be as unlikely as needing the gun in the first place? I don't know just a thought, and thats not my reason for not carrying one I simply just don't see the need.

threads like these make me realize what a culture difference we have with out neighbors to the south. Not saying that its a good or bad thing, I just cant imagine carrying a gun in my truck except going hunting...
This pretty much sums up my feelings. I guess you could say Bowling for Columbine kinda swayed my opinion on guns and gun laws in America. But on that note, i've have accepted the fact that it is how it is and there nothing I can do about it. C'est la vie!
 
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a Ka-bar? i never though of carrying a knife. I could see where it would work well. Hey enjoy the brew!!

Yup. I bought it because I broke so many work knives. This one stands up to anything I put itthrew and it's legal fixed blade non concealed. Never once be hassled about it. Plus it doesn't take a man to pull the trigger. Anyone can squeeze in fear but you pull a knife (in self defense) the other person gets the idea you ain't messin around. Provided you know how to use it

And thanks man! You should take the shotty out of your truck and come have one
 
Yah I remember him saying his wife was trained, thats why I said it didn't have to be that situation, it could be any similar situation. What if while your distracted by one perp, another one comes from behind and then you'd be out numbered. I agree that this is a very unlikely situation but could it be as unlikely as needing the gun in the first place? I don't know just a thought, and thats not my reason for not carrying one I simply just don't see the need.


This pretty much sums up my feelings. I guess you could say Bowling for Columbine kinda swayed my opinion on guns and gun laws in America. But on that note, i've have accepted the fact that it is how it is and there nothing I can do about it. C'est la vie!

There aren't a lot of perps that would still attack a woman who is holding a gun. The appearance of a gun is the great preventer. A perp, thief, rapist, etc are not stupid to keep on attacking if they knew/saw that the victim is armed.

In YOUR situation above, it is kinda dumb to think that having a weapon is a bad thing. Without a weapon, she would be killed/raped anyway! At least with a weapon, she has a chance to either kill the perps or scare them away. And if she has her weapon turned on her, then she won't be any worst than not having anything at all...she is either a raped victim or dead. Because any perp who actually attacks her despite her holding a gun is already determined and experienced enough to kill/rape/kidnap her to the FULL extent of matter, no matter if she has a gun OR not!! Really, you actually think that having a weapon in the situation above is worst?!! Geez, anti-gun liberals sure have a weird way of thinking!

As for gun control supporters, you may want to read these articles from LIBERAL sources:

Gun Laws and Crime - A Complex Relationship - NYTimes.com

Gun Control Isn't Crime Control - ABC News

Long article: https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/194051.pdf

But, at least, from reading it, it seems like enforcement of existing regulations is what is needed, rather than more laws/regulations. And yes, criminal background check do work if done right (aka enough staffing, etc.).
 
Anyone can squeeze in fear but you pull a knife (in self defense) the other person gets the idea you ain't messin around. Provided you know how to use it

I carry a Benchmade knife everyday, as a backup or primary weapon if i am not carrying.

As a determined perp, in TRDCal situation above, who still attack/rape despite the woman holding a gun, is NOT likely going to be turned away simply because she is holding a knife instead of a gun!! What, a rapist can't turn the knife around on the victim as he can with a gun??!!

Now, yeah, a knife may turn away a highschool punk looking for a good time, but i can assure you that a gun pointing at his face does the trick far better!:ybrick:
 
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seems to be a touchy subject here...
i have a concealed carry license as well. and I cary no matter where I am going. even if it is to the grocery store to get some cereal. Being a combat veteran along with the conceal carry course, I am more than trained and knowledgable on when to use a firearm and when not to. And if and when a struggle presents itself where I NEED to use my side arm, then i can just double tap two in the chest and put one in the head to ensure that my family or myself does not get injured or hurt.
plus if i fight the perp... i dont want him to suffer. its just not fair game.
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Baja, I will not be bashing you for your thoughts. I KINDA agree with you, in regards to a lot of the people who carry.

I have an AR-15 under my bed, and a Glock 26 in both of my cars.

My intent for this is not for me, but rather for my wife. With the amount of time I spend away from home, she is often times alone, and works rather late at night, in a not so good area. God forbid someone attempt to harm her, but what if?

I would rather her shoot a disabling shot, as she's been trained, than be assaulted. (Unless they come into the bedroom. At 5-10m she is incredible with the AR shooting center mass)

i am with you wilson on everything other than the shooting to disable a person, shot them to kill, how many times has someone(overseas) been pumped full of (15+rounds) 556, and still had fight left in them, even if for only 5 or 6 sec...? thats still a lot of time and it less than 2 sec for someone to close the distance between you and them from 10-15'. so if they have a knife, in their last effort they can still fatally stab you. even with the glock, its only a 9mm, there is a reason 95% of all law enforcement has walked away from 9mm, it simply does not have the stopping power, sure you have more rounds but not the stopping power, now for a woman who is yes smaller and not as strong i say the 9 is a great weapon for her, she can easily handle it and control it(especially sense its a 26). im just saying for her to shoot to kill or eliminate the threat or stop the threat is the better option imo than to shoot to wound someone. besides you have less of an issue of the perp turning around and sueing you cause you shot them while they were trying to kill/rape/rob you, and you ending up paying for them to be the scum of the earth for the rest of your days.

Yah I remember him saying his wife was trained, thats why I said it didn't have to be that situation, it could be any similar situation. What if while your distracted by one perp, another one comes from behind and then you'd be out numbered. I agree that this is a very unlikely situation but could it be as unlikely as needing the gun in the first place? I don't know just a thought, and thats not my reason for not carrying one I simply just don't see the need.

if your out numbered then your out numbered, unless you are just a Bad A$$ or get lucky a 2+ to 1 scenario where the attackers/perps are advancing from multiple/different directions, you are at a decided disadvantage. i dont care who you are. and especially if their intent is to do harm it doesnt matter if you are a man or woman if you have one gun or two, you will most likely lose that fight unless you are just ontop of your game and or the perps mess up. but the thing with that is A, most perps look for easy targets and want to avoid conflict/confrontations and dont really set a plan that works(hence they are perps/criminals) so if you pull a gun on them they will most likely think "oh sh!t wrong house/car/person" ect, and split fast. and i think thats what wilson was/is thinking here, as would i and i think most of us who chose to arm our selfs, i dont think there is a one of us who is just itching to kill someone. B, now if you have two+ perps, who are coming after you and have made a good plan and planed it out, gone over the plan, they are probably quasi pros and a gun wont scare them or they will just react accordingly, and say either hay this isnt worth it and leave(we already went over this outcome above) or they adapt to the situation and continue(this is either a sign that they are indeed pros of just severely desperate, either way its now a fight for YOUR life now). if they are pros there is not much you can do against two of them who have a plan, they have already anticipated your moved and have come with a contingency. you will probably lose this fight(man or woman, they can still over power you just by shear numbers), but at least you know you have tryed to the best of your ability to stop/prevent it. and if its some desperate perp/oh one who is high on drugs ect, then again they will not be scared off by a gun they have one goal/drive and you will need to give them the a fight. i have seen several times a guy who weighs 150-160 high on drugs get shot with a taser and it not affect him at all then in turn pick up one or more officers who weigh well over 200lbs(before their gear) who are trying to subdue him and throw them around like rag dolls. that single "little" man will over power all but the biggest guys, and it will take 4-5 officers with some brute force to stop him

This pretty much sums up my feelings. I guess you could say Bowling for Columbine kinda swayed my opinion on guns and gun laws in America. But on that note, i've have accepted the fact that it is how it is and there nothing I can do about it. C'est la vie!

bowling for columbine was such a skewed movie made by some very liberal people. as an LEO, i have seen first hand the usefulness of a good thinking, law abiding citizen with a firearm, who have help me do my job, when i was not "there" yet or other wise unavailable.
outlawing firearms will only serve one thing, getting good law abiding people to had over their personal defenses and security measures while keeping the only weapons out there in the hands of the criminals, do you like bank robbers or gangs are gonna turn in their weapons when we(god forbid) outlaw guns? no it will never happen so i say let the people keep them, if they are dumb with them, then sure they can lose their privileges. i know you sated before that you would think twice about cutting someone off next time you drove over the border, great thanks, you will probably be less likely to cause a car accident. but i highly doubt a honest law abiding US citizen is gonna pull a gun on you just cause you cut them off, and if they do, keep driving and call 911 we will come hall them of to jail and take their gun and make the country safer for the rest of us. i dont know about up north, but there are a lot of people here in the US who legally and rightfully carry a fire arm and good for them. i bet you have run into more than one who was carrying and didnt even know it(as it should be for the most part) people who carry are not bad people or lose cannons(thats a perception given by the media and a few bad apples...). its a part of our constitution and rights as US citizens as long as we dont abuse them, and the moment we lose that freedom i will find a new line of work in a new country, maybe ill come be your neighbor
 
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people who carry are not bad people or lose cannons(thats a perception given by the media and a few bad apples...).

x2.

Not sure about other states, but here in TEXAS, to have a conceal carry permit, you have to attend a 12 hour class plus shooting session...AND have FBI go over your record in detail. In other words, a conceal carry individual is one of the most law-abiding citizen you will find in the state of Texas!

In fact, according to many officers, they prefer that you show them your valid/current conceal carry permit if they do stop you because it tells them that you have been thoroughly background checked already!
 
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Both my wife and myself are CCW permit holders and have been for years (yes, in California) and yes, we carry whenever possible. I pray that I never, ever, ever have to employ lethal force since it means I will be arrested, and likely have to spend significant amounts of time and financial resources defending my actions, possibly lose my job (even if only temporarily) but carrying means that at least I have a choice in the matter.
 
And for anyone that thinks it's about being "cool" or "macho" etc., I don't know of anyone who actually has a CCW that has this attitude. My experience is that those who go through the hassle and expense of getting and maintaining a CCW are among the most upstanding of citizens in our community. After all, we've jumped through a lot of extra hoops in order to exercise this privelidge (which should be a right).
 
Geez, anti-gun liberals sure have a weird way of thinking!
First of I would like to apologize to you Thai because it seems that I have rubbed you the wrong way which was not my intentions. Sorry if you misinterpretted my posts or my motive for typing those post, I was simply putting those senerios out there to see the train of thought behind carrying guns around/ using them for protection. I'm NOT a liberal, I DIDN'T type them with intent to push anti-gun laws on anyone. I have no issue with using guns to protect yourself and loved ones, again I was merely curious on how people would justify it, that is actually also why I started this poll.

AND i'm NOT anti gun just because I choose not to carry one everywhere I go. I enjoy recreational target practice and skeet shooting and actually plan on getting a gun within the next year, I have just been procrastinating getting my gun license.

Just like "offroadingatc" said, it's our cultural differences. There's no right or wrong.

while keeping the only weapons out there in the hands of the criminals, do you like bank robbers or gangs are gonna turn in their weapons when we(god forbid) outlaw guns?

maybe ill come be your neighbor
Yes Michael Moore is bias no doubt about it, but I still think that there are some fascinating facts in the movie that make yah think. But again it's bias information and I would be just as interested in watching a documentary which portrayed the other side.

I couldn't agree more, once you introduce gun rights there's no going back, because like you said the guns that criminals use are illegal anyways so banning legal guns wont do anything but unarm good people. Like I said above, i'm not anti gun, I just put those senerios out there to see the other side of the arguement.

And I would welcome you as a neighbor, especially if you used that gun of yours on my current neighbors :D just kidding lol...oh and I was kidding about the cutting someone off thing, I cut people off without hesitation lol again j/k lol I have plenty of family members that live in the states and believe me I don't worry about being shot when i go visit them.
 
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