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Duhockey's Build Thread, Lots of Pics
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Duhockey
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This is legit. I am doing it. And copying you. Almost exactly.
And minus the kid.
Well, thanks! I've always been super proud of that box.
Im actually gonna build another one, I've thought about selling the one I have.
since its no longer my DD I figure I dont need to include a sub enclosure. I also figure I can make it lighter and less bulky with lighter stronger wood and metal frame.
before i had to keep all my tools and spare parts in the storage box, now I have a garage so I dont need as much storage for tools/subs, more for spare parts.
Duhockey
Senior Member
So today we got the rear diff back in with the 5.29 gears.
I also took care of a few things that needed be done for awhile...
Here are some pics, unfortunately, didnt take pics til later,
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The diff with the 5.29s!
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Jv9Knuhmb2YLU0kKvbljwNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n5TuRqDLhb0/T0rWgZvmdkI/AAAAAAAAERc/Wq6cyGshCT4/s800/2012-02-26%252018.01.54.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Finally painted my LCAM skids I got last May!
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dqdT-O-LV4qLHQQEASDGz9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vELbVvMC2dg/T0rW-ldIKMI/AAAAAAAAERc/d5rDHMGxZnA/s800/2012-02-26%252018.05.31.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Did the ITRE with Taco OTRE and Taco LBJs
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kD5QarAEfPXQVuEbD1lKl9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NVGBCHXAcKI/T0rWZ7o-stI/AAAAAAAAERc/Ftr8QTeQuCc/s800/2012-02-26%252018.01.28.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
thanks to Anthony, Mark and Justin for coming over and helping!
The Trutrac for the front diff should be in early this week. Ill update when its in and the truck is back on the road!
I also took care of a few things that needed be done for awhile...
Here are some pics, unfortunately, didnt take pics til later,
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Tpck6X1-jdVhpDXbp0DMsNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-UU3_hx1ZVHI/T0rWnDsXerI/AAAAAAAAERc/zXzaxBAidu4/s800/2012-02-26%252018.02.58.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
The diff with the 5.29s!
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Jv9Knuhmb2YLU0kKvbljwNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-n5TuRqDLhb0/T0rWgZvmdkI/AAAAAAAAERc/Wq6cyGshCT4/s800/2012-02-26%252018.01.54.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Finally painted my LCAM skids I got last May!
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dqdT-O-LV4qLHQQEASDGz9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-vELbVvMC2dg/T0rW-ldIKMI/AAAAAAAAERc/d5rDHMGxZnA/s800/2012-02-26%252018.05.31.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Did the ITRE with Taco OTRE and Taco LBJs
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/kD5QarAEfPXQVuEbD1lKl9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-NVGBCHXAcKI/T0rWZ7o-stI/AAAAAAAAERc/Ftr8QTeQuCc/s800/2012-02-26%252018.01.28.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
thanks to Anthony, Mark and Justin for coming over and helping!
The Trutrac for the front diff should be in early this week. Ill update when its in and the truck is back on the road!
Duhockey
Senior Member
So I got my Front diff with Tru Trac installed from my gear guy on Sunday am.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rVCdMwjrSZRm4a9YumfkhNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kE69SeibEdg/T1VbL-NVdQI/AAAAAAAAETE/92BWl2rSvI8/s800/2012-03-04%252012.33.12.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
I also picked up some stuff I bought from SteezeMcqueen,
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/BM_bgURB7_y9QYUlwJjzzdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-REXFF1s84Rc/T1Vbk2Z3IuI/AAAAAAAAETE/oAG-v307eA4/s800/2012-03-04%252012.33.28.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
and
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/e0yDLyXm8xwsayqgfIQIkdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U7MjymTEJjY/T1Vb1FIdEfI/AAAAAAAAETE/TECDOddVTSc/s800/2012-03-04%252012.35.37.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
the two Lower Control Arms and the shocks I got from SteezeMcqueen... not the upper one, a big thanks to Gerdo for welding that one back together for me.
I then cleaned and oiled up my K&N,
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Cleaned my MAF
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/95EImY4VF5eaq786Y6I6etMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pgb0g5z4hLE/T1VcXWkB3uI/AAAAAAAAETE/yQ2ttQI6HpE/s640/2012-03-05%252017.23.15.jpg" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Since the skids have been off, I pressure washed them and gave them a fresh coat of paint
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DCa8MJvVQW-Tz1S8DuwrxdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rXp3rs6xZGg/T1VcyFguOJI/AAAAAAAAETE/kOT54BvUyWQ/s800/2012-03-05%252017.23.28.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
installed the LCA and LCAM skids..
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/M2RBmNFVD0w8SWcSohbsRdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dVF9V8RgY7U/T1VdKlIwS8I/AAAAAAAAETE/IPvIQHNttUU/s800/2012-03-05%252017.28.39.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
and figured out why my AC only worked some of the time,
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pUt9DCwHrwBx4npjHfR9JNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s9WKjLHhjiw/T1Vdn1SMNoI/AAAAAAAAETE/rHkQVi1QQG8/s800/2012-03-05%252017.32.15.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
the wire and connector that goes into the plug on the right cant stay tight and so it makes connections sometimes and doesnt other times.
Front diff to go in hopefully tomorrow.
Stay tuned!
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/rVCdMwjrSZRm4a9YumfkhNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kE69SeibEdg/T1VbL-NVdQI/AAAAAAAAETE/92BWl2rSvI8/s800/2012-03-04%252012.33.12.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
I also picked up some stuff I bought from SteezeMcqueen,
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/BM_bgURB7_y9QYUlwJjzzdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-REXFF1s84Rc/T1Vbk2Z3IuI/AAAAAAAAETE/oAG-v307eA4/s800/2012-03-04%252012.33.28.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
and
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/e0yDLyXm8xwsayqgfIQIkdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-U7MjymTEJjY/T1Vb1FIdEfI/AAAAAAAAETE/TECDOddVTSc/s800/2012-03-04%252012.35.37.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
the two Lower Control Arms and the shocks I got from SteezeMcqueen... not the upper one, a big thanks to Gerdo for welding that one back together for me.
I then cleaned and oiled up my K&N,
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/jeCqIja0TpTG489FYwAtOdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6m4ZDiG3LsY/T1VcF7BWHkI/AAAAAAAAETE/Z_z0k02f_78/s400/2012-03-05%252017.23.01.jpg" height="300" width="400" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Cleaned my MAF
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/95EImY4VF5eaq786Y6I6etMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-pgb0g5z4hLE/T1VcXWkB3uI/AAAAAAAAETE/yQ2ttQI6HpE/s640/2012-03-05%252017.23.15.jpg" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Since the skids have been off, I pressure washed them and gave them a fresh coat of paint
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DCa8MJvVQW-Tz1S8DuwrxdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-rXp3rs6xZGg/T1VcyFguOJI/AAAAAAAAETE/kOT54BvUyWQ/s800/2012-03-05%252017.23.28.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
installed the LCA and LCAM skids..
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/M2RBmNFVD0w8SWcSohbsRdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dVF9V8RgY7U/T1VdKlIwS8I/AAAAAAAAETE/IPvIQHNttUU/s800/2012-03-05%252017.28.39.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
and figured out why my AC only worked some of the time,
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/pUt9DCwHrwBx4npjHfR9JNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s9WKjLHhjiw/T1Vdn1SMNoI/AAAAAAAAETE/rHkQVi1QQG8/s800/2012-03-05%252017.32.15.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
the wire and connector that goes into the plug on the right cant stay tight and so it makes connections sometimes and doesnt other times.
Front diff to go in hopefully tomorrow.
Stay tuned!
Duhockey
Senior Member
So an update for those that dont follow on Facebook or Rm4x4.org
My diff is now out for the 3rd time, you can follow all of my debacle here
Rocky Mountain 4x4, Where Wheeling Enthusiasts Are! • View topic - Actuator trouble??
and then the lastest here
Rocky Mountain 4x4, Where Wheeling Enthusiasts Are! • View topic - Light at the end of the tunnel for Shon
Ill summarize and add a few pics,
After I got my diff with 5.29 gears and Tru-trac back in, I went, got an alignment and it drove great in 2wd. I put it in 4wd and it started pulling immediately to the driver side. I noticed that my driver side tire was also significantly more worn than the passenger tire, weird since both were the same size when I put them on.
I replaced both the front tires with brand new Toyo Open Country MTs to match the back tires (same brand) that had maybe 2k on them.
It no longer pulled hard to the driver side in 4wd, but would fight you when trying to turn, then pull you left, then pull you right, and it was making this sound when turning the wheel... So, my friend Anthony and I pulled the diff out and pulled the actuator to make sure it was all good
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/TfdFLecheA8_NHzTFJpf7dMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XrtbP6xKjXU/T2_8u44_aMI/AAAAAAAAEYA/IxOIqW9VTrw/s800/459213_10150675484994886_508879885_8911479_254430016_o.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
everything was fine, so I called the guy who did my gears so he could check it out, he had me put everything back together again and I drove the Runner up and left it with him for a few days.
here is a pic of it without the front skid, Ill put that back once Im done pulling the diff out LOL this was on the day I put the diff back in to drive it to the gear guy.
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He informed me that the lower control arm bushings were shot and that was causing the control arms to move when in 4wd and that would make it change its alignment while driving. So I ordered the Poly kit from Toytec, I bought some extra cam adjusters and started tearing it apart again.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6XkSkOtP-8jt7yiNnqtYcNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-sWZMckKgfrU/T3ke0zGMzqI/AAAAAAAAEao/meKfIlxbkOM/s800/2012-04-01%252018.37.06.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
This 2nd control arm below, the cam adjusters were seized into the sleeves and the sleeves need to be reused for the Poly kit.
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Gerdo came over on monday, the passenger arm was seized, so we (Gerdo) air chiseled the cam adjusters til the arm cam out.
then took it to a shop to try and get the cam adjuster pressed or drilled out.
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No such luck, ended up pretty much destroying the sleeves, so I folded and bought rubber bushings that were then pressed in.
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Gerdo and I went back to my place and the driver side CV had been stuck in the front diff since we first put the diff back in at the end of Feb, beginning of March.
we finally got that CV out to find this.
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and matching scarring here
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So I checked with a few people, so far the consensus is that the problems caused by the bad lower control arm bushings (or lack thereof on the passenger side) could actually cause the axle to tweak and bind on the outer bearing in the diff (part of the tru trac) as well as cause the alignment to change while driving.
If you have seen this type of issue before and have any input, feel free to reply here or send me a pm...
I left a message with Eaton Diff support, and I intend on getting CVJ axle thoughts on it.
the last thing I want to do is put my diff back in and everything back together only to find that there are more issues and I have to take it apart for a 4th time.
My diff is now out for the 3rd time, you can follow all of my debacle here
Rocky Mountain 4x4, Where Wheeling Enthusiasts Are! • View topic - Actuator trouble??
and then the lastest here
Rocky Mountain 4x4, Where Wheeling Enthusiasts Are! • View topic - Light at the end of the tunnel for Shon
Ill summarize and add a few pics,
After I got my diff with 5.29 gears and Tru-trac back in, I went, got an alignment and it drove great in 2wd. I put it in 4wd and it started pulling immediately to the driver side. I noticed that my driver side tire was also significantly more worn than the passenger tire, weird since both were the same size when I put them on.
I replaced both the front tires with brand new Toyo Open Country MTs to match the back tires (same brand) that had maybe 2k on them.
It no longer pulled hard to the driver side in 4wd, but would fight you when trying to turn, then pull you left, then pull you right, and it was making this sound when turning the wheel... So, my friend Anthony and I pulled the diff out and pulled the actuator to make sure it was all good
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everything was fine, so I called the guy who did my gears so he could check it out, he had me put everything back together again and I drove the Runner up and left it with him for a few days.
here is a pic of it without the front skid, Ill put that back once Im done pulling the diff out LOL this was on the day I put the diff back in to drive it to the gear guy.
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He informed me that the lower control arm bushings were shot and that was causing the control arms to move when in 4wd and that would make it change its alignment while driving. So I ordered the Poly kit from Toytec, I bought some extra cam adjusters and started tearing it apart again.
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This 2nd control arm below, the cam adjusters were seized into the sleeves and the sleeves need to be reused for the Poly kit.
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Gerdo came over on monday, the passenger arm was seized, so we (Gerdo) air chiseled the cam adjusters til the arm cam out.
then took it to a shop to try and get the cam adjuster pressed or drilled out.
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No such luck, ended up pretty much destroying the sleeves, so I folded and bought rubber bushings that were then pressed in.
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Gerdo and I went back to my place and the driver side CV had been stuck in the front diff since we first put the diff back in at the end of Feb, beginning of March.
we finally got that CV out to find this.
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and matching scarring here
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So I checked with a few people, so far the consensus is that the problems caused by the bad lower control arm bushings (or lack thereof on the passenger side) could actually cause the axle to tweak and bind on the outer bearing in the diff (part of the tru trac) as well as cause the alignment to change while driving.
If you have seen this type of issue before and have any input, feel free to reply here or send me a pm...
I left a message with Eaton Diff support, and I intend on getting CVJ axle thoughts on it.
the last thing I want to do is put my diff back in and everything back together only to find that there are more issues and I have to take it apart for a 4th time.
fightman80
New member
Really sucks about your front Diff man! It really sucks when you have to take stuff apart more than once! Sounds like my injector job.... a total of 5 times!
On the bright side, you have a ton of brand new parts on that front end now.... if it's any consolation????
On the bright side, you have a ton of brand new parts on that front end now.... if it's any consolation????
Duhockey
Senior Member
the red bumpstops came with a skyjacker coil spacer lift I used to have. They were installed by 4wheel parts before I decided those scumbags will never touch my truck again
Duhockey
Senior Member
So, heres some info I have learned about the Eaton Tru Trac since my last post a few posts above this...
Here is what I have learned about the TruTracs specifically,
#1 They have the worst customer service ever.
I called Eaton many times and 90% of the time I get an answering service that cant do anything but take a general message.
I finally got ahold of someone and got the direct # for the TruTrac support tec and he pretty much told me he didnt think the problem was even with the Tru Trac. More on that to come.
#2 They have some pretty big design flaws that have been pointed out to them several times by ECGS. They have ignored and blown him off.
Design Flaw#1 some of the Trutracs are machined off and the C clip will click in before the axle is fully seated (was happening with mine) others will go in all the way and not reach the C clip seat. Some of the people that have had the previous issue have also reported massive leaking since the axle housing doesnt seat against the diff properly.
Design Flaw #2 the stock driver side needle bearing has a gap in it that allows for diff fluid to flow into the area where the axle sits. The Trutrac sits flush and allows no lubrication in.
Design Flaw #3 The stock design uses a "needle bearing" on the driver side along with the spline "drive" to hold the axle and support it. The Trutrac eliminates the bearing and uses what Eaton refers to as a "race",
All of these combined lead to a situation where the axle is not fully supported the axle allowing it too much movement and friction leading to where the axle "cold welded" itself to the Trutrac "race". It took massive amounts of pressure and pounding and prying to get the axle free and out of the diff.
After talking to Eaton, they said they dont have a "bearing" in their design.
the fact is that I sent them a picture of the damage and its clear that it is part of the Trutrac.
Here is the open diff with trutrac
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and the damage up close, apparently in the Trutrac
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After talking with Eaton, CVJ axle and several others, I happend to email then call Chase at ECGS, Chase read thru the posts and explained most of the above to me. He also has had so many customers come to him with issues stemming from these problems and problems with the Lockrights that he has fabbed up a solution for this problem. Apparently, this is an issue lots of Tru Tracs in other IFS vehicles as well. after weighing the options, I decided to send my Trutrac to Chase to have him take a stab at it.
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Ill update the build thread as I do more, Looking to maybe do some Tundra brakes and extended brake lines while I wait for the TruTrac to come back.
Here is what I have learned about the TruTracs specifically,
#1 They have the worst customer service ever.
I called Eaton many times and 90% of the time I get an answering service that cant do anything but take a general message.
I finally got ahold of someone and got the direct # for the TruTrac support tec and he pretty much told me he didnt think the problem was even with the Tru Trac. More on that to come.
#2 They have some pretty big design flaws that have been pointed out to them several times by ECGS. They have ignored and blown him off.
Design Flaw#1 some of the Trutracs are machined off and the C clip will click in before the axle is fully seated (was happening with mine) others will go in all the way and not reach the C clip seat. Some of the people that have had the previous issue have also reported massive leaking since the axle housing doesnt seat against the diff properly.
Design Flaw #2 the stock driver side needle bearing has a gap in it that allows for diff fluid to flow into the area where the axle sits. The Trutrac sits flush and allows no lubrication in.
Design Flaw #3 The stock design uses a "needle bearing" on the driver side along with the spline "drive" to hold the axle and support it. The Trutrac eliminates the bearing and uses what Eaton refers to as a "race",
All of these combined lead to a situation where the axle is not fully supported the axle allowing it too much movement and friction leading to where the axle "cold welded" itself to the Trutrac "race". It took massive amounts of pressure and pounding and prying to get the axle free and out of the diff.
After talking to Eaton, they said they dont have a "bearing" in their design.
the fact is that I sent them a picture of the damage and its clear that it is part of the Trutrac.
Here is the open diff with trutrac
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/DOsZosnLrHB7N0ohBfqOTtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NpRA9Glgctc/T39Xqhl10aI/AAAAAAAAEew/5UMoM5R1DcQ/s640/2012-04-06%252014.05.03.jpg" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
and the damage up close, apparently in the Trutrac
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6Yzxh0MuYp3jocyNnJ3fhdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oR0o1koJQTw/T39XaDprCyI/AAAAAAAAEeo/VVABb5BpJPQ/s640/2012-04-06%252014.05.43.jpg" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
After talking with Eaton, CVJ axle and several others, I happend to email then call Chase at ECGS, Chase read thru the posts and explained most of the above to me. He also has had so many customers come to him with issues stemming from these problems and problems with the Lockrights that he has fabbed up a solution for this problem. Apparently, this is an issue lots of Tru Tracs in other IFS vehicles as well. after weighing the options, I decided to send my Trutrac to Chase to have him take a stab at it.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/dLCQ6YBsPiKXavny1vUgdtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-f-aX3cwZgS0/T3_l2IuiskI/AAAAAAAAEfE/AkbdPQokDm8/s640/2012-04-06%252016.51.19.jpg" height="480" width="640" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
Ill update the build thread as I do more, Looking to maybe do some Tundra brakes and extended brake lines while I wait for the TruTrac to come back.
Duhockey
Senior Member
Well, we do have a list of good/bad sellers for the forum, we could always start a thread and make it a sticky.
I can see it getting out of hand though, would need to have pretty good guidelines about posting reviews only. I wouldnt want to sift thru 100s of yeah, that company sucks... I just want to see the actual review with important info.
Hepar
New member
Maybe just a condensed list with a link to a specific thread on bad experiences with a certain product and good experiences. It could be broken up into different sections depending on the specific part.
FoneRunner
New member
I've got to chime in here and say that every time I called Eaton, they were on the spot and helpful. I had a local company do my install and I haven't had a moments problem out of it. I'm going to go out on a limb here, but maybe yours was installed wrong to begin with, and then Eaton had a bad day...the only issue I've had with them is getting them to send me a free sticker for my window.
Duhockey
Senior Member
hate to break it to you, but I pulled it apart myself and there is no possible way to install it wrong and have the problem Im having.
the fact is the trutrac doesnt fully support the axle on the driver side and it lends itself to problems. Chase at ECGS has seen tons of problems with these in all kinds of IFS vehicles so its not just a Toyota/Trutrac issue.
Like Ive stated, other circumstances lead to my case being more severe, (different size tires, bad LCA bushings, coilovers cranked to 4", etc) but what Chase said is that most of the time he gets these, they leak out the side of the diff because the axle doesnt seat properly and/or they dont have enough lubrication because they dont have any gap to get gear oil into where the axle seats itself.
Unfortunately, Eatons service was indefensible... I talked to a Brent, he works in the differential department specializing in tec support for TruTrac...
I have his last name and direct # after calling the 800# ten times during business hrs and finally getting to someone that actually worked there instead of an ANSWERING SERVICE. After talking to him and getting zero help, I sent him these exact pictures...
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and
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both of which Chase at ECGS and my installer Anthony recognized immediately as part of the TruTrac.
My problem with Brent is that he refuses to acknowledge that the damaged is part of the TruTrac when it obviously is...
As if it even needed to be confirmed when I tore it apart, the trouble is not the axle... the axle is the exact same as my other axles I ran for years. I know, we measured every single possible thing on the axle and the diff to make sure that Anthony didnt screw it up or the axle wasnt faulty.
I know FoneRunner and LINY4runner haven't had any problems yet, and maybe they wont. I think LINY already did his LCA bushings before he put in the Trutrac so he may never have issues. But I wonder what happens when FoneRunners LCAs bushings start to go out if he will hear some of the same issues, or have problems getting his axles out.
The inconsistency in the problems (some axles not going in far enough, others cant go far enough in to clip) that might indicate a problem with manufacturing, maybe only certain ones made in a certain plant has issues.. I dont know. I do know that the stock OEM design allows for much more support and lubrication than the TruTrac design and that alone is something that should be fixed. Chases calls to Eaton have resulted in nothing but them denying any issues.
All that being said... I had several options, I could go back to an open diff. I could sink another grand into my diff and get an ARB for the front, or I could have Chase do some mods to the TruTrac to make it "more stock-like" It was an easy choice.
I dont like the thought of an ARB in the front of an IFS rig, especially with no locker in the back. I would rather go with the Tru Trac which is maintenance free, does well in the type of 4wheeling that I do and overall will allow for slippage in the circumstances its designed to slip in..
I like what the Tru trac is capable of and I decided to stick with it instead of go back to an open front diff. If that doesnt tell you how much I like what I know the Tru Trac is capable of, I dont know what will. Just know, if you need REAL help from someone on the TruTrac, call Chase at ECGS or if you are South, hit up ACC. they apparently know what they are doing also.
Duhockey
Senior Member
can we have a most hated company of the month culminating in a most hated company of the year?!?!
Cuz 4wheel parts would win every year!
LOL
My input:
Detroit products are a pimple on Eatons ass. They have 2 people in the Differential portion of their company tech/sales ect. They do not have drawings of the units, they have likely never installed one, and although they are okay guys are not versed enough in Differentials and their product to offer technical support. The engineers do.........can't talk to those guys and they do not really know anything either except what the drawing is.
Second their was a redesign on the T7.5 Front that is supposed to be compatible with HP ADD system as early version had issues. They specifically call out ADD and Not manual hubs......though the carriers from toyota are interchangeable btwn the two systems. Toyota's Factory carrier ADD system runs a needle bearing in the case to support the shaft. They do this b/c the D-side shaft spins all the time. Unfortunately do to a cast spider gear bore and the fact that needle bearings don't hold up well to side load the needle brgs do fail. however not very common in the T7.5 Differentials but very common in its bigger brother T8CS in the 05+ tacomas, 4runners, and the T9CS from the tundras. ( I believe this to be b/c of steeper angles and heavier components causing higher rates of side load to needle bearing which with Shon UCA problems and lift height likely did cause issue with the TT) We have designed a bushing that fixes the T8CS problem and will implement the same process though different specs for Shon's true trac. This will solve the problem as the bushing is designed for high rate of speed, will handle 500 degrees before breaking down and can handle 7 times the side load of which a needle bearing the same size can handle.
Toyota's Non ADD carrier does not run a needle bearing however the bore that the CV shaft rides in has an oil grove cut all the way around it and has a larger tolerance then what the TT has. So Toyota recognizes that they need clearance and oil when CV shaft spins. Non ADD only spins when in 4wd so there design says yes we need oil and clearance but 4wd is usually slow speed not heat generating and needle brg is not needed. However in the ADD system toyota recognizes the shaft could theoretically be spinning 80 mph at all times and oil groves will not suffice so they install a needle brg. although as stated a needle brg is not sufficient do to the internal design of toyota spider gears. see our you tube video explaining the design flaw in Toyota carrier design. T8CSCV.mov - YouTube
So Eaton mistake is they don't use a bushing, needle bearing or even an oil grove on the new design call out toyota 7.5 ADD diffs. This is a large design flaw and surprisingly shon is the only one to have issue thus far. running steel on steel at any rate of speed is looking for trouble. The reason why they have not been caught on every unit is b/c ultimately in the toyota stock case and the TT the side gear truly supports the shaft. A TT b/c it is a helical posi the side gear is preloaded and tight in the carrier bore and it eliminates the slop that a factory carrier has thus the Side gear takes most of the side load. However there is still spline slop allowing the shaft to move up and down. Do to angle and weight of CV it will ride on the metal of the TT.
The fact that eaton called it a race is a bit of a joke it is the carrier and nothing else (metal) no design element was implemented that I see to protect CV carrier galling and seizing.
I called Eaton after Shon called me and asked them what were the design changes in the new TT? response no idea engineering would know. At this point I told them there was two design flaws. The carrier bore with no protection of shaft and at what distance internally the CV shaft is retained. The CV shaft is retained by a clip it slides past side gear and expands to lock shaft into case. This distance internally determines where the shaft rides on the seal. TT is not the same as factory and can cause seal leakage the only affordable way to fix this issue for end user is to cheat the seal outboard .110.
I told Eaton that I could fix this differential for them, they told me to explain it in detail and fax it in they would see if they could get the engineers to look at it. Sure right after you put me on retainer............
Eaton will never fix these issue unless they have a high rate of return at which point it could take them years to redesign. All in all we do not recomend TT for front clamshell diffs.
ARB's may be expensive but their engineers are top notch and they do years of testing before product release. And frankly if ARB had designs flaws like this and I knew how to fix them they would put me on the phone with their engineering dept. immediately to correct. Eaton just does not care.
Chase@ECGS
[email protected]
Drivetrain Specialists East Coast Gear Supply
919-672-2705
Your source for toyota and all other differential Parts
Detroit products are a pimple on Eatons ass. They have 2 people in the Differential portion of their company tech/sales ect. They do not have drawings of the units, they have likely never installed one, and although they are okay guys are not versed enough in Differentials and their product to offer technical support. The engineers do.........can't talk to those guys and they do not really know anything either except what the drawing is.
Second their was a redesign on the T7.5 Front that is supposed to be compatible with HP ADD system as early version had issues. They specifically call out ADD and Not manual hubs......though the carriers from toyota are interchangeable btwn the two systems. Toyota's Factory carrier ADD system runs a needle bearing in the case to support the shaft. They do this b/c the D-side shaft spins all the time. Unfortunately do to a cast spider gear bore and the fact that needle bearings don't hold up well to side load the needle brgs do fail. however not very common in the T7.5 Differentials but very common in its bigger brother T8CS in the 05+ tacomas, 4runners, and the T9CS from the tundras. ( I believe this to be b/c of steeper angles and heavier components causing higher rates of side load to needle bearing which with Shon UCA problems and lift height likely did cause issue with the TT) We have designed a bushing that fixes the T8CS problem and will implement the same process though different specs for Shon's true trac. This will solve the problem as the bushing is designed for high rate of speed, will handle 500 degrees before breaking down and can handle 7 times the side load of which a needle bearing the same size can handle.
Toyota's Non ADD carrier does not run a needle bearing however the bore that the CV shaft rides in has an oil grove cut all the way around it and has a larger tolerance then what the TT has. So Toyota recognizes that they need clearance and oil when CV shaft spins. Non ADD only spins when in 4wd so there design says yes we need oil and clearance but 4wd is usually slow speed not heat generating and needle brg is not needed. However in the ADD system toyota recognizes the shaft could theoretically be spinning 80 mph at all times and oil groves will not suffice so they install a needle brg. although as stated a needle brg is not sufficient do to the internal design of toyota spider gears. see our you tube video explaining the design flaw in Toyota carrier design. T8CSCV.mov - YouTube
So Eaton mistake is they don't use a bushing, needle bearing or even an oil grove on the new design call out toyota 7.5 ADD diffs. This is a large design flaw and surprisingly shon is the only one to have issue thus far. running steel on steel at any rate of speed is looking for trouble. The reason why they have not been caught on every unit is b/c ultimately in the toyota stock case and the TT the side gear truly supports the shaft. A TT b/c it is a helical posi the side gear is preloaded and tight in the carrier bore and it eliminates the slop that a factory carrier has thus the Side gear takes most of the side load. However there is still spline slop allowing the shaft to move up and down. Do to angle and weight of CV it will ride on the metal of the TT.
The fact that eaton called it a race is a bit of a joke it is the carrier and nothing else (metal) no design element was implemented that I see to protect CV carrier galling and seizing.
I called Eaton after Shon called me and asked them what were the design changes in the new TT? response no idea engineering would know. At this point I told them there was two design flaws. The carrier bore with no protection of shaft and at what distance internally the CV shaft is retained. The CV shaft is retained by a clip it slides past side gear and expands to lock shaft into case. This distance internally determines where the shaft rides on the seal. TT is not the same as factory and can cause seal leakage the only affordable way to fix this issue for end user is to cheat the seal outboard .110.
I told Eaton that I could fix this differential for them, they told me to explain it in detail and fax it in they would see if they could get the engineers to look at it. Sure right after you put me on retainer............
Eaton will never fix these issue unless they have a high rate of return at which point it could take them years to redesign. All in all we do not recomend TT for front clamshell diffs.
ARB's may be expensive but their engineers are top notch and they do years of testing before product release. And frankly if ARB had designs flaws like this and I knew how to fix them they would put me on the phone with their engineering dept. immediately to correct. Eaton just does not care.
Chase@ECGS
[email protected]
Drivetrain Specialists East Coast Gear Supply
919-672-2705
Your source for toyota and all other differential Parts
Duhockey
Senior Member
Thanks so much to Chase at East Coast Gear Supply!
Thanks for fixing the TruTrac and for adding this great info for others to read.
So happy I got all got all my gears, kits and now a modded Trutrac from such a great company!
Duhockey
Senior Member
Yesterday Gerdo came over yet again and helped me by rewelding on one of the alignment tabs that fell off.
Then he put on my Panhard Drop bracket and welded on a reinforcement.
Here is the original mount cleaned up.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6tCh5MzFE-9zL2wlV78S49MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I28yxcMP5hA/T5dmFdpaOnI/AAAAAAAAErI/6DpV5958_8Y/s800/2012-04-24%252009.25.40.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/42412?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4/24/12</a></td></tr></table>
and then he cut and welded on a support to the frame to keep everything secure.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qipBIvhQiaWN0eUU7Xt9vNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8VxrUF1KS2Y/T5dmFXGHNCI/AAAAAAAAErI/CYDPvKihqKU/s800/2012-04-24%252015.49.56.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/42412?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4/24/12</a></td></tr></table>
Now my axle is centered again! it was starting to get really squirrelly on the road. When the Panhard is at too much of an angle not only does it pull the axle over, but starts to pull it back also... so the wheels actually point more toward the driver side than straight.
Thanks SO MUCH Gerdo!
Then he put on my Panhard Drop bracket and welded on a reinforcement.
Here is the original mount cleaned up.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6tCh5MzFE-9zL2wlV78S49MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-I28yxcMP5hA/T5dmFdpaOnI/AAAAAAAAErI/6DpV5958_8Y/s800/2012-04-24%252009.25.40.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/42412?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4/24/12</a></td></tr></table>
and then he cut and welded on a support to the frame to keep everything secure.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/qipBIvhQiaWN0eUU7Xt9vNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-8VxrUF1KS2Y/T5dmFXGHNCI/AAAAAAAAErI/CYDPvKihqKU/s800/2012-04-24%252015.49.56.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/42412?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4/24/12</a></td></tr></table>
Now my axle is centered again! it was starting to get really squirrelly on the road. When the Panhard is at too much of an angle not only does it pull the axle over, but starts to pull it back also... so the wheels actually point more toward the driver side than straight.
Thanks SO MUCH Gerdo!
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Duhockey
Senior Member
So the TruTrac got back from Chase at ECGS on monday
Here are some pics of the Modified Trutrac and then me putting it back together.
Here is the TruTrac BEFORE the modification:
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0pA1IwKc52Sq3UYcgtEiQtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9eAsWinkGIs/T3uL3Qp3_FI/AAAAAAAAEbU/xMpCqYOWhac/s800/2012-04-02%252019.47.38.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6Yzxh0MuYp3jocyNnJ3fhdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oR0o1koJQTw/T39XaDprCyI/AAAAAAAAEeo/VVABb5BpJPQ/s800/2012-04-06%252014.05.43.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
And then Here is the TruTrac with the new bearing AFTER modification:
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ZDSn4GADsNt1Uh6Vo8J0O9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y-enbdBBhdo/T57_4ZI-FdI/AAAAAAAAEyg/vfnicaay8Sc/s800/2012-04-30%252010.54.52.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
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So I started putting it back together...
Keep in mind, I got BRAND NEW 5.29 Nitro gears now also...
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8zjgXPVx9U7TfmTtQhTHwNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L0_1WhdcOeY/T5795cKGLFI/AAAAAAAAEx8/CJVjpUavxTY/s800/2012-04-30%252012.07.49.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ALnzykyOSFDzXUwHsrfOT9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-EAIANFSoxBs/T579L9B8sUI/AAAAAAAAEx0/cppeVCDX3FQ/s800/2012-04-30%252012.50.58.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
and then put the Diff back in the truck, filled her up with fluid and she is ready to go.
Here is a pic of her already for her first test drive.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/juancy613oFrCWw2bL47t9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G8mflbwbkFg/T59Qn3LiLKI/AAAAAAAAEzk/natTHDK7j2E/s800/2012-04-30%252019.00.46.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
I need to put back on the roof rack and Buds and go wheeling!
So since I blew the diff back in Sept/Oct,
1.I have replaced both front and rear gears with 5.29 Nitro gears,
2.put a Trutrac in the front diff,
3.replaced the Inner Tie rod ends with Taco ones
4. Replaced Outer Tie rod ends with Taco ones.
5. Replaced the LBJ with Taco ones.
6. Replaced LCA bushings
7. Had Panhard Drop welded in.
8. Replaced Rear Lower control arms with ones from Steezemcqueen sporting Toytec LCA skids
9. repainted and reinstalled my Lotus R-CAMS (Rear Control Arm Mount Skid)
10.repainted my Budbuilt front skid.
11. rewelded my rear upper control arm and reinstalled.
12. Bought and painted my new 20lb C02 tank
13. Had CVJ axle rethread one CV axle end and repair damage from the TruTrac on another.
Big thanks to Anthony Perez, Anthony Thomas (gears), Chase from ECGS, Gerdo from Lil Skips Offroad, Mark C., Micah H, Lumpskie, Dylan aka SteezeMcqueen and Jeff aka Sn0wrunner from Toytec, Glen Y. from Lotus Development and Sean from CVJ Axle
Every single one of the above people assisted in diagnosing/fixing/supplying parts/help/labor etc.
I got the 4runner aligned and she is running great!
Ready for the trails again!
Here are some pics of the Modified Trutrac and then me putting it back together.
Here is the TruTrac BEFORE the modification:
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/0pA1IwKc52Sq3UYcgtEiQtMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-9eAsWinkGIs/T3uL3Qp3_FI/AAAAAAAAEbU/xMpCqYOWhac/s800/2012-04-02%252019.47.38.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/6Yzxh0MuYp3jocyNnJ3fhdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-oR0o1koJQTw/T39XaDprCyI/AAAAAAAAEeo/VVABb5BpJPQ/s800/2012-04-06%252014.05.43.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
And then Here is the TruTrac with the new bearing AFTER modification:
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/ZDSn4GADsNt1Uh6Vo8J0O9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-y-enbdBBhdo/T57_4ZI-FdI/AAAAAAAAEyg/vfnicaay8Sc/s800/2012-04-30%252010.54.52.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
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So I started putting it back together...
Keep in mind, I got BRAND NEW 5.29 Nitro gears now also...
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/8zjgXPVx9U7TfmTtQhTHwNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-L0_1WhdcOeY/T5795cKGLFI/AAAAAAAAEx8/CJVjpUavxTY/s800/2012-04-30%252012.07.49.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
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and then put the Diff back in the truck, filled her up with fluid and she is ready to go.
Here is a pic of her already for her first test drive.
<table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/juancy613oFrCWw2bL47t9MTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-G8mflbwbkFg/T59Qn3LiLKI/AAAAAAAAEzk/natTHDK7j2E/s800/2012-04-30%252019.00.46.jpg" height="600" width="800" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right">From <a href="https://picasaweb.google.com/106779729868072622389/4runnerBuild?authuser=0&feat=embedwebsite">4runner Build</a></td></tr></table>
I need to put back on the roof rack and Buds and go wheeling!
So since I blew the diff back in Sept/Oct,
1.I have replaced both front and rear gears with 5.29 Nitro gears,
2.put a Trutrac in the front diff,
3.replaced the Inner Tie rod ends with Taco ones
4. Replaced Outer Tie rod ends with Taco ones.
5. Replaced the LBJ with Taco ones.
6. Replaced LCA bushings
7. Had Panhard Drop welded in.
8. Replaced Rear Lower control arms with ones from Steezemcqueen sporting Toytec LCA skids
9. repainted and reinstalled my Lotus R-CAMS (Rear Control Arm Mount Skid)
10.repainted my Budbuilt front skid.
11. rewelded my rear upper control arm and reinstalled.
12. Bought and painted my new 20lb C02 tank
13. Had CVJ axle rethread one CV axle end and repair damage from the TruTrac on another.
Big thanks to Anthony Perez, Anthony Thomas (gears), Chase from ECGS, Gerdo from Lil Skips Offroad, Mark C., Micah H, Lumpskie, Dylan aka SteezeMcqueen and Jeff aka Sn0wrunner from Toytec, Glen Y. from Lotus Development and Sean from CVJ Axle
Every single one of the above people assisted in diagnosing/fixing/supplying parts/help/labor etc.
I got the 4runner aligned and she is running great!
Ready for the trails again!
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FoneRunner
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I love the detail in this build thread! Have you had a chance to test it on a trail yet? I need to hear how that new gear ratio is treating you!
