Engine swap journey begins!

thegipper

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Long story short, I have a bad motor in my 97 (3.4 V6) and will be swapping in a (3.4 V6) used motor from a donor truck I bought (99 SR5). The truck came from a member on here who was rear ended and the truck was totaled (frame was shot). Before I bought it, I was able to test drive it and it ran great. He had an entire folder of maintenance records, he took much better care of his truck than my previous owner of my 97 (my bro...lol)

Just 3 weeks ago I did a full timing belt, water pump job on the now bad motor (including the cam/crank seals).

My first step is going to be pulling the engine from the donor truck, hopefully this Saturday. The transmission has already been removed, I needed it in my 97.

Once I get the donor motor removed my plan was to strip it down and prepare it for a timing belt/water pump job (it was due anyway). I will be using the parts that I just installed on my blown engine. Obviously I cannot reuse the seals but I should be able to reuse everything minus maybe the waterpump gasket. Would you guys reuse it or just buy a new one. Again, its only 3 weeks old.

I will be replacing the rear main, front main, cam seals on the donor motor. The valve covers and associated seals were done in 2013 and do not appear to be leaking at all. I'll also look it over and see if anything else needs attention while the motor is out. A member on here (on a different thread) suggest I reseal the oil pan. If it is bone dry right now would you reseal it or leave it be?

Once I get my blown engine removed, I'll swap over all of the timing belt/water pump parts.

As soon as the new/used engine is all put back together and refreshed, I'll be swapping it in.

Here is the list of things I'm planning to do to the new/used engine, OEM parts only:

1. Install new cam seals, rear main seal and front main
2. Timing belt, water pump and all related components with that job
3. Possibly reseal the oil pan?
4. Inspect for any other leaks or warning signs
5. New coolant
5. All new hoses

Couple other things to note. I gave my buddy who had a Tacoma the flex plate from the 99 donor motor. I will have to reuse the flex plate off of my 97. I will inspect it and make sure there aren't any cracks or issues.

I'll also be using the V beltes off of my blown engine since they are only 6 months old.

Another concern is the down pipe bolts. I've heard they always snap off. I'm assuming you can buy just those bolts/studs and replace them? It just so happens that the donor truck has a full TRD stainless steel exhaust (cat back).

I have read the 5VZFE engine removal thread but if anyone has any other tips or tricks they would like to share, that would be great.

To be continued....
 
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It's pretty quick and painless job, but the '99 engine harness isn't gonna just plug into your '97 ECU- were you already planning to use your '97 engine harness? Just re-pinning your '97 connectors to the '99 harness might be easier. I don't think it's possible to swap the harness without pulling the intake plenum, and it would be nice to leave that alone IMO.
If the pan gasket isn't leaking, I wouldn't touch it. Is it a pain to do later? Hell yeah. But neither my 260k mike '97 nor my 237k mile '01 even seeped- much less leaked- so I wouldn't touch it, myself.
I would absolutely reuse the timing belt/WP/idlers, but use a new WP gasket and cam seals.
Exhaust bolts will probably snap, but easy to replace once you have it out [emoji1360]
Most importantly- have fun! [emoji1598]
 
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It's pretty quick and painless job, but the '99 engine harness isn't gonna just plug into your '97 ECU- were you already planning to use your '97 engine harness? Just re-pinning your '97 connectors to the '99 harness might be easier. I don't think it's possible to swap the harness without pulling the intake plenum, and it would be nice to leave that alone IMO.
If the pan gasket isn't leaking, I wouldn't touch it. Is it a pain to do later? Hell yeah. But neither my 260k mike '97 nor my 237k mile '01 even seeped- much less leaked- so I wouldn't touch it, myself.
I would absolutely reuse the timing belt/WP/idlers, but use a new WP gasket and cam seals.
Exhaust bolts will probably snap, but easy to replace once you have it out [emoji1360]
Most importantly- have fun! [emoji1598]

Are you sure about that? I have a 99 ECU already in my 97. When I was having transmission problems, one of the things that could have been causing my shifting issues was a problem with the ECU. My local yard had a 99 so I took the ECU from it and it worked fine in my 97. I would pull the harness through the firewall and leave it on the engine.

Or am I missing something?

Can you order just a WP gasket? All I can find is aftermarket WP gaskets, does Aisin sell just the gasket? PN?
 
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Another question, should I just replace the rear main seal or also remove the retainer and re-seal it with FIPG?

I'm seeing mixed opinions on this.
 
Another question, should I just replace the rear main seal or also remove the retainer and re-seal it with FIPG?

I'm seeing mixed opinions on this.

May as well while you’re in there, however be sure not to over torque the bolts or they will snap. Ask me how I know
 
It does not look like Aisin or Toyota just sells the WP gasket. All I can find is an "OES" brand WP gasket on Amazon?

Reuse the 3 week old one?
 
It does not look like Aisin or Toyota just sells the WP gasket. All I can find is an "OES" brand WP gasket on Amazon?

Reuse the 3 week old one?
The new style WP gasket is Toyota P/N 16271-62011. That is the metal one with a rubber ridge around its perimeter.

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Good luck Mike. Keep the thread updated.

Seals, in my experiece, tend to go after about six months to a year after non usuage. That is for the moisture ladened, 100F temperature change here in the South. The more you change, the better off you are. Plus with the oil pan off you really should be able to see just how healthy that engine is.

I'd have zero problems reusing a metal gasket that new.
 
Good luck Mike. Keep the thread updated.

Seals, in my experiece, tend to go after about six months to a year after non usuage. That is for the moisture ladened, 100F temperature change here in the South. The more you change, the better off you are. Plus with the oil pan off you really should be able to see just how healthy that engine is.

I'd have zero problems reusing a metal gasket that new.

I'll know more tomorrow when the engine is out. If there is any question it might even be leaking a little I'll reseal it.

I tend to agree about the WP gasket but my local dealership had one for 18 bucks so I ordered it.

Thanks for the help so far!
 
Don't forget the ADD diff connector at the left motor mount. And the harness anchor bolt on top of the motor mount.

Take a sawzaw to the front rad support on the totaled truck and pull engine and trans and transfer case at the same time.

Separate them on the floor


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I'll make a note about that ADD connector.

Trans/transfer case are already out =)



Pulling it all together was so easy. No wire harness to mess with. Just pull the ECU wires and lay them on top of the engine and unplug the EVAP connector. May be one or two more. I did remove the starter / alt harness from the engine before I yanked them.

Remove the PS pump from engine and get it low and out of the way too. Remove the AC lines from the pump and put tape over the openings or place plastic plugs in the pump holes and over the hoses.


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Donor motor is out. Took maybe 2.5 hours with a helper. Wasn't too bad at all.

I got it home safely on a tire on a trailer.

Time to start stripping this one down.

Can any confirm if I need to do anything with the harness (97 vs 99). I unhooked it from the ECU and feed it through the firewall.
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Nice work! Well, I thought I was sure. Since you said you already have a '97 engine/harness plugged into a '99 ECU, I guess I can't say I'm sure anymore. Your '99 engine/harness should definitely work just fine with the ECU if it's already from a '99!
 
Valve covers, half moons etc are bone dry (done in 2013). Oil pan is bone dry.

Still planning on doing all the seals tho.

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Got the front main, cam seals and all timing belt/WP related stuff off.

I also pulled the AC pump off and put plugs in both ends. I now have a spare ac pump, alternator, starter and a ton of other stuff.

The donor motor had the original water pump in it and it wasn't leaking a drop! Still smooth as butter. Timing belt had 89k miles on it and looked new still.

No leaks from the cam or front main, rear main is dry too.

And look at these spark plugs, beautiful! I just changed my plugs on my bad motor but these look even better than mine so I'll use these.

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Checked for any other leaks (freeze plugs etc), everything is bone dry. When I get my bad motor out I'll post some pictures. It's covered in oil from head to toe.

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