LawnDart
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Most of us are americans. Anything south of the border is South America for us, until we build a wall, a really big wall! It'll be great.
Expedition Overland returns to the MacKenzie Trail
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Most of us are americans. Anything south of the border is South America for us, until we build a wall, a really big wall! It'll be great.
MTN4RNR
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At least we won't be paying for it
Mikeson
Member
Which Rav4 side view mirrors are you talking about? im curious to find out, I just did a quick search but wasnt sure what i was looking for lol
LawnDart
Senior Member
Current ones with the little convex blindspot mirrors.
Also Toyota has very tight control over what you can do with some of the vehicles. A tacoma with aftermarket bumpers generally still looks like a Tacoma. When you change the front quarter of a 4Runner, it tends to look radically different.
Different means it's not brand identifiable again. So I know they're pretty limited on some of the mods they can do with the 4Runners.
e60ral
Banned
i think toyota let them do the bumper on the tacoma since its a new generation and still obviously the new generation. when toyota gave them the 4runners it was the same time as the mid-gen face lift so i can understand why toyota didn't want them to disturb the front fascia (the front fascia being the primary difference on the 5.5 gen)]
also, everyone can criticize these guys all they want, but the fact that my wife enjoyed the mackenzie trail episodes and kept wanting to watch the next episode, but will go upstairs and watch period piece dramas on netflix anytime i watch other overlanding channels on youtube means to me that they are doing something right
also, everyone can criticize these guys all they want, but the fact that my wife enjoyed the mackenzie trail episodes and kept wanting to watch the next episode, but will go upstairs and watch period piece dramas on netflix anytime i watch other overlanding channels on youtube means to me that they are doing something right
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ADK Explorer
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So that's overlanding? Hell I used to do that 20 years ago in my Mazda B2600. I carried a shovel and chainsaw and an emergency backpack filled with overnight gear. As I would drive remote mountain roads I would see trails going off in the woods and go see where they went. I often had to cut my own trails and dig my way out off swamps. I called it exploring.
I liked the videos. The narration didn't bother me. I found it informative. They give a realistic view of exploring and it usually does suck at many times. Mud, trees, mosquitoes all take the fun out quick. You have to be knowledgeable and prepared for the conditions your going to face. Plan for worst case scenarios. How far are you willing to walk to get help? How much energy will it require to get out of deep shit? I've backpacked my ass so deep into the hills through rough terrain to where I've thought crap I don't have the strength to get out. Taking short excursions to familiarize with pitfalls and demands help you determine what your suckness tolerance is.
Now if someone could dial in a powered trailer that would be useful. Make it carry it's own weight. Six wheel drive!
As they said, get out today because you don't know what tomorrow will be. Most of the trails I used to explore are gated and closed now.
I liked the videos. The narration didn't bother me. I found it informative. They give a realistic view of exploring and it usually does suck at many times. Mud, trees, mosquitoes all take the fun out quick. You have to be knowledgeable and prepared for the conditions your going to face. Plan for worst case scenarios. How far are you willing to walk to get help? How much energy will it require to get out of deep shit? I've backpacked my ass so deep into the hills through rough terrain to where I've thought crap I don't have the strength to get out. Taking short excursions to familiarize with pitfalls and demands help you determine what your suckness tolerance is.
Now if someone could dial in a powered trailer that would be useful. Make it carry it's own weight. Six wheel drive!
As they said, get out today because you don't know what tomorrow will be. Most of the trails I used to explore are gated and closed now.
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MTN4RNR
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Well said. That's why I waste no time seeing as much of CA as I can before they start locking gates and shutting trails down. This year alone shows that one camp site I have been to a few times this summer in the Big Sur region may close down sooner than later after the wildfire that was caused by an illegal campfire.
ADK Explorer
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As always the people who do damage and dump trash ruin it for the responsible folks. I can't get upset at the closures because I've driven trails where trash, furniture, tv's and garbage bags are piled along as well as wetlands dug up and rutted. I would rather have pristine wilderness. I can hike. Appreciate the privilege of being allowed to drive your rig in the wilderness.
A.Wilson013
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Interesting responses to the videos.
I will admit that I too find myself thinking, "wow, they're taking this way too seriously..." But I do enjoy watching them for the most part.
I cannot imagine all that chain sawing. We did a section of the ORBDR earlier in the year and with three saws our progress was slow, and honestly miserable. Lots of days with 12+ hours behind the wheel.
I will admit that I too find myself thinking, "wow, they're taking this way too seriously..." But I do enjoy watching them for the most part.
I cannot imagine all that chain sawing. We did a section of the ORBDR earlier in the year and with three saws our progress was slow, and honestly miserable. Lots of days with 12+ hours behind the wheel.
techoguy
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I completely agree. I like the winch built into the bumper like they have it too.
MeefZah
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No doubt. They all suck. And I start watching them wanting to give them the benefit of the doubt, and I still lose interest in ten minutes.
I thought XO's new 3-episode dealio was good. It was muy better than their South American season, for sure.
MeefZah
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It appears from the weight gain between NA season and Mackenzie that Ryan is no longer in...
MeefZah
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No doubt. Any white guy not kicking in doors in Fallujah has no business wearing one of those. I see those once in a while being rocked by chubby white guys in full on tactical casual dress, and I always have to giggle.
Dusty Driftwood
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Some of you guys are just unbelievable...
1. You get to watch nice looking Toyotas complete an overland journey
2. These guys cleared and mapped the trail for future users
3. They recorded their adventure and posted their content online, which will raise awareness of overlanding, the MacKenzie trail, Toyota capabilities, etc.
4. Whether you like the commentary or not, they still completed the trail, which was clearly no small feat.
So what if there is product placement and marketing along the way. That's the way the world works. If you want to take a journey like this, you need many/all of the products they used. So, you can either partner with vendors to sponsor parts of your trip or pay for everything yourself. If taking sponsorships is the difference between going on the journey or sitting at home, I say take the money.
The tenor of the commentary actually reminded me of Les Stroud (aka Survivorman). At times, it may have seemed dramatic to some, but I am certain the folks on the trail are in a different frame of mind than all you Monday morning quarterbacks sitting in the comfort of your living room or office.
I agree that the wasted gas from idling and shortage of chainsaw chains could have been avoided. In reality, that is a good way to illustrate the importance of pre-planning to people who are new to overlanding and researching the topic.
In all, I'd rather watch their videos than a majority of the other BS content online. So, if I'm subjected to marketing (for products that I'm interested in anyway) and narrator commentary along the way, so be it...
1. You get to watch nice looking Toyotas complete an overland journey
2. These guys cleared and mapped the trail for future users
3. They recorded their adventure and posted their content online, which will raise awareness of overlanding, the MacKenzie trail, Toyota capabilities, etc.
4. Whether you like the commentary or not, they still completed the trail, which was clearly no small feat.
So what if there is product placement and marketing along the way. That's the way the world works. If you want to take a journey like this, you need many/all of the products they used. So, you can either partner with vendors to sponsor parts of your trip or pay for everything yourself. If taking sponsorships is the difference between going on the journey or sitting at home, I say take the money.
The tenor of the commentary actually reminded me of Les Stroud (aka Survivorman). At times, it may have seemed dramatic to some, but I am certain the folks on the trail are in a different frame of mind than all you Monday morning quarterbacks sitting in the comfort of your living room or office.
I agree that the wasted gas from idling and shortage of chainsaw chains could have been avoided. In reality, that is a good way to illustrate the importance of pre-planning to people who are new to overlanding and researching the topic.
In all, I'd rather watch their videos than a majority of the other BS content online. So, if I'm subjected to marketing (for products that I'm interested in anyway) and narrator commentary along the way, so be it...
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PK930
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Bravo sir, bravo. My sentiments exactly.
MeefZah
New member
I don't think anyone is poo pooing the achievement, and it seems everyone is interested in the series... just nitpicking some details. But I agree with your post for the most part, XO has done a good thing and made it pretty watchable.
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